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Frage von kronic:


Ahoi,

plane for a thesis film. The material I would like to an external hard drive to capture and edit synonymous, because I change jobs several times the need.

Now my question: I have to Nehm s.besten a firewire or USB hard drive?

It is a question of whether usb I just as quickly can work in Pinnacle Liquid Edition or Avid Xpress how about firewire? Or is the slow reproducing then?

What if I use the firewire card as synonymous preview nem-out on the external monitor? Can I still use the external disk connected without additional significant performance losses?

Liebäugel with the 500.0 GB Western Digital My Book Pro WDG1T5000E

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

There are synonymous External hard disks (HDD Enclosure) with Firewire and USB2 connection.

/ E

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Antwort von Mike.:

USB is much faster on firewire scheiß ... °!

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Antwort von StefanS:

"Mike." wrote: USB is much faster on firewire scheiß ... °!

... and the earth is flat

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von szymek:

False, a tetrahedron ...:-)

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Antwort von kronic:

Thank you for more or less serious answers. (A bitter truth, but Firewire is faster than usb 2.0) But now times Tacheles. Of course there are external plates, which both Firewire Usb can be synonymous. I am but the important question whether, if you use a slot of 3 Firewire Connections this card already in place for the camera or when the player capturing the material is digitized and thus simultaneously to the hard drive, the synonymous s.einem firewire slot depends on the same card. then the performance goes down, dropping frames ... etc ...

The same synonymous with the work, if a slot to preview on the camera out of your monitor and NEN s.anderen slot the hard drive with the material varies. What's with it playing out? Jerky? Performance loss?

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Antwort von szymek:

What isch with you? Will you processed me ..... . USB 2.0 is faster than firewire. Point from finished.

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

Did we ever ...

/ E

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Antwort von StefanS:

"Anonymous" wrote: What isch with you? Will you processed me ..... . USB 2.0 is faster than firewire. Point from finished.

Brown calmly,
... and forget not play tomorrow, to take your tablets

Greeting
Stefan

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Antwort von the machine:

"Anonymous" wrote: What isch with you? Will you processed me ..... . USB 2.0 is faster than firewire. Point from finished.

WRONG! USB 2.0 can be faster than firewire .... it usually is not.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"kronic" wrote: adopted, using a slot of 3 Firewire Connections this card already in place for the camera or when the player capturing the material is digitized and thus simultaneously to the hard drive, the synonymous s.einem Firewire slot depends on the same card.
Hi,
schrob I s.anderer body ever: work with my Uralt-800-MHz notebook fine without frame drops with a cheap PCMCIA card. I did not take time off background processes. Only then should other practicable Programs in peace :-)
With USB, I have not tried the old carrot has anyway only 1.0.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von Markus:

"Eva Maier" wrote: There are synonymous External hard disks (HDD Enclosure) with Firewire and USB2 connection.
Eve's proposal met my opinion the best. Thus you can always use that interface, which s.jeweiligen computer s.besten works. Depending on the hardware and software combination can be a synonymous as the other clean run or serious problems. And nobody wants that.

When copying / moving large amounts of data I prefer Firewire. That has a much higher throughput than high-speed USB and is thus faster in the transmission.

Learn More:
USB 2.0 is [not] faster than Firewire-400

"Mike." wrote: USB is much faster on firewire scheiß ... °!
And since our guest is Mike s.praktischer experience with these two standards lacking, following are a few basics for reading. ;-)

" 1st Ist Firewire wirklich besser als USB ?
" FireWire FAQ">(b) Firewire or USB?

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

After disks probably wesenlich lower data throughput than the interfaces hergeben unnecessary I think, here this week any discussion.

/ E

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Antwort von Markus:

"Eva Maier" wrote: After disks probably wesenlich lower data throughput than the interfaces hergeben ...
That's right, the hard disks are the weakest link in the chain when it comes to the data goes. - That the transfer on an interface is still much faster than the others, is probably (synonymous) s.den USB 'between reflection. ;-)

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Antwort von kronic:

Many thanks for your tips. Now the question arises as to what external disk? I prefer the time following, all interfaces include:

Western Digital My Book Pro Edition 500 GB

Only problem is that some users of the panel which reported that, once the plate for a while is not in use, it simply shuts down.

Has the plate and someone knows the problem? Can you stop? And how long does it take to get back up is? Would blöd, wennn the plate during the cigarette break is adopted.

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

The plate has an automatic power-up if necessary you can switch off.

/ E

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

There are synonymous housing alone

http://www.amazon.de/RaidSonic-IB-351UE-B-Festplattengeh% C3% A4use-FireWire-schwarz/dp/B000E0OAXY/sr = 1-16/qid = 1171066328/ref = sr_1_16/302-0631255- 0025669? ie = UTF8 & s = ce-de

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Antwort von kronic:

Is not that complicated, with himself and housing plate so as to build and then run to make it work?

According to experiences in Western Digital Forum is the story with the driving down the plate does not stop. Only the bigger model with 1TB, this does not automatically go down. But the price is very much the same money.

Can I get a good external plate with 1x Firewire 800 and 2x Firewire 400 + HighspeedUSB (2.09 recommended for DV editing?

tend to the LaCie models:

LaCie d2 Hard Drive Extreme with Triple Interface 320GB

What do you think?

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Antwort von Markus:

"kronic" wrote: Is not that complicated, with himself and housing plate so as to build and then run to make it work?
Absolutely not. You take just a so-called combo enclosure (Firewire and USB connections) and to a suitable "naked" hard drive. The housing is opened, the hard drive with two cables is connected, tightened and the housing closed.

That is almost as simple as a pizza in the oven to plug. ;-)

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

The right panel jumpers! sometimes you need Master (MA) and another Cable Select (CS) so that you will be properly recognized.

/ E

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Antwort von Markus:

Yet one more reason to be happy the dealer, rather than greed or Blödmarkt to think that one could in such hardware save much money ... ;-)

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Antwort von kronic:

Ok, I would have to manage the disk enclosure to build and will be added. But once I enter them via USB or Firewire connected, then it will be recognized, although it is still not formatted?

Tu synonymous me a little hard to make what would s.besten plate for housing the following (). So the housing is not a Ferrari, as a result of the interface of the housing would be experienced.

These could only have an IDE disk, are the cheapest. Capacity should be at least 320 GB.

When an external older as the complete package:
LaCie d2 Hard Drive Extreme with Triple Interface 320GB
is one with 160 ¬ here. I find it very favorable in view of the connectivity (Firewire 800, 400, usb 2.0). And it all aligned. Klar for FireWire 800 you would need further ne pci card (yes, one could eventually be placed), but yes firewire 800 is backwards compatible with firewire 400, so you have 2 completely so synonymous usable firewire ports s.der plate.

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

Hi,
Plates are synonymous detected when they are not formatted. Depending on the operating system will you be asked it to do then synonymous.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von Markus (unangemeldet):

Otherwise, it binds hard disks, which are as yet unformatted under WinXP on the following way:

Start> right click on My Computer> Manage> Disk Management.

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Antwort von Jan:

"Mark" wrote: Yet one more reason to be happy the dealer, rather than greed or Blödmarkt to think that one could in such hardware save much money ... ;-)

Was not always so common Markus on "my" chain.

The 320er LaCie USB 2.0, we have grad for 99 ¬ - not a bad price - I think, because the love has synonymous Internet often a higher price.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von kronic:

The 320er LaCie USB 2.0, we have grad for 99 ¬ - not a bad price - I think, because the love has synonymous Internet often a higher price.

True, the model synonymous "Triple Interface" with FireWire 400/800 and USB 2.0?

I'm really out hergerissen and if I look at the LaCie d2 Hard Drive Extreme with Triple Interface 320GB buy it yourself, or me ne external disk should build.

But the self is always the problem of the choice of the plate. What I plug into the enclosure (IDE disk), so that roughly synonymous with the interface of the cabinet runs. As I said: What does the Ferrari-plate in an enclosure, the disk brakes? Even many of the housing available on the Internet, for example, no Firewire 800 port!

What should I do?

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

Is it strange, a few days ago what the world for you is fine, because you knew that it garnicht USB / FW there and now do you have 2 days' what should I do? "
Perhaps gibts bei Dir s.Ort a weapons store, since würd ich mal hingeghen me and after a suitable house funds around.

/ E

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Antwort von kronic:

"Eva Maier" wrote: Is it strange, a few days ago what the world for you is fine, because you knew that it garnicht USB / FW there and now do you have 2 days' what should I do? "
Perhaps gibts bei Dir s.Ort a weapons store, since würd ich mal hingeghen me and after a suitable house funds around.

/ E


Dear Eva,

I'm stupid and understand why your not mature irony. I wonder however, why a young woman so much time spent on the Internet, rather than with their Physikkommilitonen the weekend to spend in the lab.

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Antwort von Eva Maier:

Liebermann, happier way it is a work computer and it is not irony or sarcasm of my drives, but the fact that someone can not decide for himself.

/ (E

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Antwort von dvcut:

My Recommendation:
@ xxess Taurus Raid 1TB USB / Firewire

Much power in high-grade aluminum housing and all the man needs Connections. Housing about $ 100 without hard disks, 1TB approximately EUR 400

" Connectors: FireWire 400/800 and USB 2.0
Controller " RAID 0 (striping, spanning, non-RAID)
" Raid operating mode via DIP switches, switchable
" Capacity: 2 x 500 GB Samsung HDD
" internal S-ATA
" Extremely fast data transfer of up to 100 MB / s
about FW800
" Accessory: USB - Firewire 1394a, 1394b cable, power supply

for Win / Mac suitable

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Antwort von PowerMac:

LaCie, I can not recommend it. The chipset in the Firewire 800/400 enclosures dies a little too often. Here's two links about this:

http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=39755&highlight=lacie
http://www.finalcutprofi.de/phpboard/viewtopic.php?t=40225&highlight=lacie

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

... for yourself what is here for < ¬ 10 newly offered ibäh 280075258488 has Firewire port. The plates can be found eg in ATELCO favorable.
BG
Andreas

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Cheap ATA disks are usually guenstiger.de or geizhals.at / en

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Antwort von kronic:

Yo, are now at last the happiness at the chance and grab the following order:

Raidsonic Icy Box IB-351UE, 3.5 ", USB 2.0, silver
+
Samsung SpinPoint T133 400GB

What it says on the plate? is ok?

or should I rather ne s-ata disk take in terms of the future, if I'm with my computer equip his new motherboard, I could then directly drive the internal use and would be properly power. or you notice any performance during video editing differences between internal and connected ide s-ata disks?

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