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Frage von mike zeller:


Hello first

I have now set a small green screen where we try around such a little. (Beginners) Two Sonyvx 1000 where the heads are pretty down. So we decided to take over the whole firewire direct to disc with adobe on location. so far so good. Now weakens my labtop but rum and I probably should buy a new one. But unfortunately nothing more with Firewire. my inquiries and investigations have shown - Firewire and the synonymous Card slots are dying. So retrofit nada synonymous with firewire. Everything dies out or is already extinct. What can I do now?? I fear nothing. I've already asked in markets that know nothing but synonymous accurate.
There are firewire hdmi adabter. S.Labtop HDMI is only output or yes? Or a firewire card for Lappis? The service is not supposed to be the same if a card slot for still calls his own. A salesman said I should switch to Apple but have the firewire. I think there is aimed at the whole markttechnisch synonymous.
And over usb one can not synonymous record directly to disk. Does anybody rat? What's he doing, I wonder, Adobe's brand new location on CS5 for a sense?

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Antwort von prime:

There still a lot s.Laptops with Firewire.
http://geizhals.at/deutschland/?cat=nb15w&xf=31_FireWire&sort=p

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Antwort von mike zeller:

Hi, best thanks for your info. of course there still any with firewire. But to call time when media market or in stores. You'll get little to no firewire connection more.

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Antwort von stefanf:

HDMI in and out.
How else the signal should go somewhere?

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Antwort von xinon:

"Mike zeller" wrote: But unfortunately nothing more with Firewire. my inquiries and investigations have shown - Firewire and the synonymous Card slots are dying. So retrofit nada synonymous with firewire.

get yourself a laptop with an express card slot 34th there are still good cards.
these laptops do not cost all the world (except for apple: / - but still have FW ports )....

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Antwort von prime:

"Mike zeller" wrote: Hi, best thanks for your info. of course there still any with firewire. But to call time when media market or in stores. You'll get little to no firewire connection more.
Yes and if you do not find something at Media Markt you give then the same? What I care about the media market, except for scrap metal have the glossy yet, anyway.

Of ~ 1600 units in the list have at least 569 Firewire. Yes, it is certainly s.aussterben but simply because the majority of people no longer need or have never used (the same applies to the PCMCIA slot).
Quote: Now weakens my labtop but rum and I probably should buy a new one. But unfortunately nothing more with Firewire.
(...)
What can I do now??

Purchase your ne Firewire card for your current notebook.
Or since you already want to write just buy a new one from the above list - what's so difficult? Where's the problem?

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Mike zeller" wrote: ... Firewire and the card slots synonymous ... Everything dies out or is already extinct. What can I do now ???...
The best first not believe everything someone tells you ;-) There are still rows of laptop computers with Firewire (may be synonymous as "IEEE1394" indicated). However, it may be that you land it in somewhat higher price points than the absolute Billigklasse.

"Mike zeller" wrote: A seller ... I meant to switch to Apple but have firewire ...
As a general tip that makes little sense: even an Apple laptop is no longer a guarantee of Firewire, synonymous here because there are those with and without which this socket. Good served with a MacBook Pro you were probably, on the other hand it should not be a problem synonymous in its price class s.1100 ¬ to find a Windows laptop with Firewire.

"Stefanf" wrote: ... HDMI in and out ...
Sure? I went far assumes that only one HDMI s.Laptops is always output.

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Antwort von mike zeller:

Hi,

my problem is it that people again and again (slightly) above cheeky and naughty write what my problem is, Media Markt glossy junk. etc etc. So with the slogan "I Scheißno preference but what has fürn prob again." None here wants to know what you have with prob fürn markets. Sun comes over it. Intermission that please. I can not cover.

I go to HDMI synonymous actually assume that it is an output. If that is not so dfinitiv would be solved my problem. I buy NEN lappy with hdmi and an adapter for 3-6 and free Euronen freu freu.

So, anyone here knows what he with HDMI??

Thank you

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Antwort von Alf_300:

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HDMI in and out.
How else the signal should go somewhere?

Can one tell me which device?

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Antwort von mike zeller:

Alf 300

Hi,

So either I'm stupid or you have no idea. I take time at first ha I'm stupid.

Why should it be so the hdmi signals reinläßt s.einem Lappy? Why?
Sure would be my dream and then die out of me from synonymous firewire.
HDMI s.lappi but it is to join as ferneher s.den. So lappy out - tv pure.

Sewage us exactly on time. Please

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Antwort von prime:

"Mike zeller" wrote: (...) So comes across it.
It is not meant. If I were your problem no preference - Waru I would bother to write here and you want to help? Yes, of course, because I'm cheeky and naughty.

"Mike zeller" wrote: I go to HDMI synonymous actually assume that it is an output. If that is not so dfinitiv would be solved my problem. I buy NEN lappy with hdmi and an adapter for 3-6 and free Euronen freu freu.
I do not know the laptop has an HDMI input. All I know Models give out their video / audio signal via HDMI (HDMI output).

That helps nothing there but all have your VX1000 no HDMI output. The simplest solution is just OnLocation with Firewire signal. So, new laptop or Firewire card.

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Antwort von Alf_300:

@ Mike Zeller
Are you the StefanF?

But one writes promt but there are Firewire HDMI adapter. The country is probably from the Otto
In a pinch I could always have a solution -;)

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Antwort von benito:

Hi,

the HDMI issue, I can not synonymous not really help. But I can hardly synonymous imagine that this works for Fileübertragung on the laptop.

At the FireWire issue but what I wanted to say (if I'm telling synonymous wohlmöglich nothing new, but who knows):

As one of the "previous speaker has already indicated it is important here not s.dem term FireWire stick.
Strictly speaking, that of the 'IEEE 1394' Standard. For there are then different names.
Sonyverwendet example, the term i.Link. So if you find a laptop with the i.Link exactly the same.

Greeting

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Antwort von mike zeller:

joo agrees hinweiß thank for that. the desert while I was in vergessenheitgeraten.

to HDMI again. There are firewire to hdmi adapter, or I'm blind. yesterday googled. is synonymous but no preference. There are actually notebooks with hdmi input. Just as there are as heist irtümlicher HDMI would transmit images and tone. Not always!! It is the Lappis via hdmi only transfer images. Have just recherche operated telephone terror.

But a clear reliable meaningful do not come along. Since it is probably true to NEN lappy ausm wets buy with slot or firewire.
I called but now really the whole ne Lappy department have in 5 large electronics markets. and not one has firewire. Determined because the housewives take on Cams stick or internal memory.

hmmmm

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Antwort von PeterM:

Yes firewire tirbt out because there most certainly is not an issue where there is so much superficial knowledge is disseminated.
But times seriously.
1st Firewire sirbt out because more and less consumer firewire devices themselves have, and because the latest USB 3.0 synonymous with falls away the speed advantage over USB 2.0. Therefore, Firewire ports are often found to no longer cheap notebooks.
2nd There are still tickets for the Cardslot Firewire, and this is not synonymous Onbordanschluss a slower asl. At least for DV and HDV, it goes forever.
So buy a notebook solution with Cardslot.

3 An HDMI port is usually no input for capturing. They certainly do not s.Notebook. I am certainly not a mainstream notebook known with which one can capture via the HDMI interface
Cards as Blackmagig would then indeed unnecessary.
Just to complete. It is true that some notebooks is no sound on the HDMI output. The sit but rather a sham because it then is only a DVI output from the HDMI connector was executed.
The video signals of HDMI and DVI are intersecting each other so why sinple adapter work without electronics yes.

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Antwort von mike zeller:

Thank you for this benefit auskunft!

But what I question. In the new edition of Adobe CS5 sündhaftteuren on Location is on it. a professional direct-to-disk software.

However, this is now somehow by s.Markt. And what is with the expensive HD Cams? yes, all hdmi etc. I am thinking as a layman. Is then no longer possible directly to disk and the loss of firewire makes for unnecessary because on location because so synonymous only Friesch on the market?

that goes through my head

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Antwort von Jott:

Cameras with Firewire are extinct in the professional manner in None. In run format like DV, DVCAM, HDV, DVCPro, DVCPro50 ... synonymous with cameras and other formats such as SonyEX1 / 3, depending on the mode output via FireWire. Since on-location so synonymous not just aimed at the amateur videographers, the still fits for a lot. The software is already synonymous yes (ur) old, comes from times when everything anyway still good on tapes and ran for capturing via FireWire, and was eventually bought out of Adobe only.

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Antwort von WoWu:

@ Mike zeller
IEEE1394 is dying because it is a hardware interface. Although this is a good thing, but to process just expensive and bad. USB is a software interface, which will come medium well s.die place.

IEEE1394 to HDMI adapter is of it, if at all, only very expensive and in the professional area, such IEEE1394 leads a coded signal over HDMI not be transferred in the form. There must be therefore a complex decoding, it is virtually transparent, the interface and then coded multiplexed for transmission back to TMDC.
Now would be demultiplexed and then be re-encoded, the video codec of your choice in your laptop.
HDMI is not a data interface, such 1394th
In addition, HDMI does not transfer any format and also (be coupled in such configurations) with HSCP is.
Blow you such a better connection from the head, even if you find a laptop with HDMI input and it works despite HDCP possibly synonymous.
This is not consumertaugliche configuration.
Get yourself, as already suggested, a card slot and buy yourself a FW card, as long as it still exists.
IEEE 1394 can not therefore hold s.Markt because Apple has charged for each built-port license fees - $ 1 per motherboard AFAIK, $ 0.25 per port.
Therefore has not the better, but enforced as always in IT history the cheaper, so USB.
And as professional as Jott and would have us believe, the interface is no longer synonymous for modern cameras to stream TS is no more but send the files in packages that require no more in 1394. Soche cameras are now, as 1394, the endangered species.

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Antwort von carstenkurz:

I would first have to ask the question whether the media market, employees at all any idea what they are talking. I bet if I had tomorrow to Media Markt, Saturn or else would a store, I have no problem, there a handful of laptops with FireWire interface to find.

I would hardly assume any event that any media market, the interface equipment of the employees there currently sold notebooks in your head.

- Carsten

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Antwort von iMac27_edmedia:

MacBookPro find and buy Firewire800 who plan to use some synonymous Firewire1600.

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Antwort von WoWu:

Quote: who plan to use some synonymous Firewire1600.
Just what the camera then?
An interface has always two sides :-))

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Antwort von iMac27_edmedia:

with adapter as of block 800 to 400, then goes synonymous probably yes, yes synonymous with the hard disks have the new FW1600 interfaces.

When cameras are the 400 as a 6-pin and a smaller 4-pin

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Antwort von WoWu:

:-)) I understand, but you still know new cameras that are equipped with it?
For the nostalgic, of course, good news.

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