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Erstmals 3-Chip AVCHD-Cams mit MOS-Technologie (HDC-SD100 und HDC-HS100)

First 3-chip AVCHD cams with MOS technology (HDC-SD100 and HDC-HS100)



Newsmeldung von slashCAM:
Juni 2008

First 3-chip AVCHD cams with MOS technology (HDC-SD100 and HDC-HS100) of heidi - 18 Jun 2008 14:16:00
Panasonic Japan has today two new AVCHD models presented, with the three MOS sensors will be - whether it is CMOS acts, including. CamcorderinfoBislang verfügen nur einige Sony HDV -/XDCAM-Camcorders aus dem oberen Preissegment über 3xCMOS, of denen die FX7 with ihrem derzeit niedrigsten Straßenpreis of ca. 2500 Euro s.günstigsten ist. Mit 1300 bzw. 1100 Dollar werden die ab September 08 erhältlichen HDC-SD100 and HDC-HS100 deutlich darunter liegen (Euro-Prices and Verfügbarkeit hierzulande sind noch nicht bekannt).
Panasonic verspricht sich of diesen Modellen neben einer verbesserten Color performanceein sehr gutes Lowlight-Verhalten, sind CMOS -Sensoren doch allgemein lichtstärker als CCDs, and hier finden sich also gleich drei davon. Da jedoch die Chipfläche with je 1/6" nicht sehr großzügig bemessen ist, dürfte dieser Vorteil wieder etwas zunichte gemacht werden.
Beide Camcorders zeichnen AVCHD ua. in FullHD-Resolutionauf (1920x1080 / max. 17Mbps), and zwar auf SD-/SDHC-Karten, in der HS100 ist zusätzlich noch eine 60GB-hard drive verbaut, was ihre etwas größeren Abmessungen erklärt. Ansonsten sind die Modelle offenbar identisch of der Ausstattung: Leica Dicomar Lens with 12-fachem opt. Zoom, optische Bildstabilisation, Fokusring, 2,7" LCD sowie Viewfinder, HDMI , Microphone-Input. Ein neuer " Intelligent Auto" (iA) Modus, bisher zumindest vom Namen her of den Lumix-Fotocams bekannt, wurde implementiert. In der
Japanese press, but not in the U.S. (link below) is also one of 24P Digital Cinema mode of speech, and the xvColor color space.

Here to list the two new models in Comparison with the March announced SD9/HS9 in unserer Cam-Datenbank (soweit die Daten vorliegen, natürlich -- sobald die deutsche Pressemeldung vorliegt wird ggf. upgedatet)

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Here is the link to the news with links and images on the pages Slashcam Magazine




Antwort von WoWu:

Quote:
Panasonics marketing department is incidentally in the name of this 3-chip system for the C Complementary fall, it is therefore formally to 3MOS cameras (which is so synonymous is clearly easier to pronounce ..).


Maybe it's the editors not familiar with that MOS technology in the inner structure of CMOS very different and that these are different properties, the marketing with very little to do.
Quite the contrary, by the resultant higher clock speeds, the MOS permits, some inadequacies of the CMOS (uA RS) will be compensated.

Quote:
... Per chip area with 1 / 6 "........ Both AVCHD camcorder draw ua. FullHD in-Resolutionauf (1920x1080 / max. 17Mbps) ...


This, in turn, is marketing poor!
Maybe the editor so a different understanding of marketing or is this somehow obliged.



Antwort von Markus:

"WoWu" wrote:
This, in turn, is marketing poor!

If there is no device available for testing, then left holding nothing but the press release. And all who believe in what such a message is probably synonymous believes that lemon lemon butterfly fold. ;-)





Antwort von WoWu:

As you've probably right, I just think just one editorial, the basic correlations of the matter could have on the reports and they not only extended Marketingarm play.
In that respect are synonymous relativise Press. (Do you see how even).
After all information in such a forum but many users and an editing but should have the right of a certain degree s.Korrektness and independence.

But to see it to say with Goethe:
"You have to be the true always repeat the mistake because synonymous forth to us again and again is preached, and not of individuals but of the mass."



Antwort von blip:

"WoWu" wrote:
Maybe it's the editors not familiar with that MOS technology in the inner structure of CMOS very different and that these are different properties, the marketing with very little to do.
Quite the contrary, by the resultant higher clock speeds, the MOS permits, some inadequacies of the CMOS (uA RS) will be compensated.

Thanks for the hint Mr. Wunderlich, synonymous nice if he would have to be formulated. Due to the fact that in the press release the "3MOS" technology of the conventional camcorder with "1MOS" was compared, and so far only installed CMOS, is the assumption that it is synonymous here to CMOS act. Unfortunately, we could now no one at Panasonic reach to make things just to clarify, so we have the first notification relativised something until we know more.

Many greetings,
Heidi / Slashcam



Antwort von WoWu:

I am sorry that the wording of the false impression has.
Mea culpa ... It was not meant as it is rübergekommen.
I see that there is room for improvement. Thanks for the hint.
I would be looking really, if the information situation in the best possible forum, which is certainly in everyone's interest. I try in any event, my small contribution to this.
Grüße nach Berlin



Antwort von Frank B.:

1 / 6 inch chips?

Will probably not be with the parts. I would therefore they alone do not buy.

Frank



Antwort von WoWu:

The chip should be slightly different view, because he is in 3 layers of the Picture scans and so of course in a 3-fold arrangement effectively to 9 sensor layers come.
If I then made the 60 Mpix binning my shape, I have a whole next step.
As always there is the question of Optics.
Now there is this kind of sensor already since 2005 and in combination with a lens system, the optical path back together in groups seems to be synonymous as much to do.
There seems to be the opposite of to what in previous single-chip cameras happens when the birefringent filter, the optical path split.
Unfortunately, there is nothing as good as accurate (and reliable) on the system to learn. It is still room for speculation.
But you must be excited already ..... and as I said, the 1 / 6 "MOS should not be with 1 / 6" CMOS compare precisely why it is sometimes sosehr on the "simple" C.



Antwort von blip:

"WoWu" wrote:
I am sorry that the wording of the false impression has. Mea culpa ... It was not meant as it is rübergekommen. I see that there is room for improvement. Thanks for the hint.
I would be looking really, if the information situation in the best possible forum, which is certainly in everyone's interest. I try in any event, my small contribution to this.
Grüße nach Berlin

Danke, freut mich! We are obviously synonymous very anxious that the info on Slashcam complete, clear and correct, we are therefore an indication of any misunderstandings or Fehlangaben always welcome (something that unfortunately can never be entirely avoided).

Greetings again, Heidi



Antwort von Frank B.:

"WoWu" wrote:
The chip should be slightly different view ...


To me it is not necessarily to the last ounce of intensity, but rather to the lack of depth and thus, in this case, lack of options for picture composition.

Frank



Antwort von WoWu:

Jau, Frank, I am totally in Dir
These are more parts for the Urlaubsfilmerei.
My dream camera would be synonymous several other parameters.
But what the depth of field, it will probably very soon anyway in the calculation process and thus would make a much more customized, because I am a blur each pixel value can mitgeben.
But what does not truly affect it is the inflection as long as there are still mechanical aperture ... and the simple versaut each picture, because sometimes you need so synonymous little depth of field (for example in the documentation work) and because this cut Bonsai chips really are not out.
Therefore, I can well understand your approach.



Antwort von LarsProgressiv:

Hello Wolfgang,

can you do that:
"WoWu" wrote:
The chip should be slightly different view, because he is in 3 layers of the Picture scans and so of course in a 3-fold arrangement effectively to 9 sensor layers come.
If I then made the 60 Mpix binning my shape, I have a whole next step.

times for normal explain?
If the forum should have something like this, it needs a translation, I think.

I would be grateful if you like any.
Especially for the declaration of:
- 3 layers (which is similar to Foveon?)
- Binning

Regards
Lars



Antwort von schorsemoppel:

Typically, little did I ordered a Canon HF100, Panasonic comes with the message on a compact AVCHD Flash Cam with viewfinders and focus ring - the two things I've missed greatly Canon ...




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