Frage von pp800:
Hello
first front, I'm an absolute novice in the camcorder area.
I have in the last 2 weeks but a little with the issue and would like to see for our holiday in December a HD camcorder growth. Now I have a lot s.Testberichten read synonymous and I think I had 3 for me interesting cameras discovered. But now I am no longer quite so next and hope that you - the professionals - to me in my decision with your opinions and tips can help.
The camcorder I looked closer:
- Canon HF 100
- Panasonic SD 100 (or SD 9)
- SonyCX11E (or CX6EK)
I am now not on festgenagelt above camcorder, so if you have a completely different tip has at hand, I would be synonymous rejoice!
However, those then maybe my wishes, which were there ...
Since I'm so bloody Beginners camcorder should not be too complicated, and happy (unless arg suffers anything) most of themselves. Would mean for me and turn drauflosfilmen without great settings to make.
Furthermore, it should not be much more expensive as ¬ 700 and a memory card to a storage media use.
Big ambitions, I really do not want to receive the camcorder as far as just as a holiday camcorder and on special occasions such as birthdays use film as a hobby, so to speak.
I hope you can send me a little help and am already looking forward to your tips, opinions and suggestions.
Should still be on your questions, it easy.
Thanks in advance
Regards
Philipp
Antwort von jazzy_d:
"The camcorder I have closer envisaged:
Are all credible AVCHD cams. Want to cut the videos? What power has your PC? AVCHD is still relatively difficult to cut.
Panasonic interpolated me if it is right.
The Sonyist in my eyes a toy.
The Canon HF100 is or was the measure of things (manual options, Connections, etc.). The new HG20 and HG21 Erts have to look the same opportunities, etc. Just make the new 24Mbit / s.
Antwort von Markus73:
Panasonic interpolated me if it is right. Pixel Shift and Interpolation are not the same if you to want to mention the fact that the sensor has fewer pixels than the device ultimately s.Resolutionliefert.
Regards,
Markus
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Thanks Mark :-)
Antwort von pp800:
Now I had time before cutting out a little.
My system is in any case, times to current games in high Resolutionzu play ...
My system would be:
Athlon 64 X2 6000 (2x 3 Ghz)
4 GB RAM
Radeon 3870
Vista Ultimate 64 bit
Would the rich to cut?
May I ask why you Sonyals the "toy" mean?
Antwort von jazzy_d:
I think your PC is grad so s.der border to work with AVCHD wahnisinnig without them. On www.fxsupport.de you will find many snippets to AVCHD times to try.
Sony Is there no longer new (for Sony).
They had no connections (Mic, Headphones) almost no manual options, only 16Mbit / s, 5.1 sound, Smile Detection
Antwort von pp800:
The Page, I see me, thank you!
Hmm, and I thought the CX11E was relatively new, because on the HP Sony of "new" in the product description where ...
If the camera but does everything well, without being synonymous RESTRICT me something, I'm almost happy :-)
Antwort von jazzy_d:
So Sony has yet to Switzerland CX7 and it cx12
http://www.sony.ch/lang/de/product/cam-high-definition-on-memory-stick
Of course you can with any cam with automatic film. But if it times out s.kommt you're glad if you can manual eingreiffen.
Antwort von pp800:
This means the Panasonic and the Canon, there are a lot better. Ok.
I've just viewed the Page and the testing of HF100 read. Because of what is a battery life of 40 min. ! But this is not bad ... Even the 80 mins. Enhanced Batteries find I do not necessarily grandiose.
Are the Panasonics as synonymous as "short" what the battery life is concerned?
Otherwise I would have this Canon very much.
The Panasonic models are apparently the connections for TV and PC very bad location. Say you need to see the Battery and the rausnehmen Camera s.das zb wall socket to the video on the PC. Speaks actually synonymous not necessarily for the Camera ... Therefore, the new models probably many setting options and a Viewfinder ...
Oh dear, really hard here to take a decision ...
Antwort von jazzy_d:
Panasonic also makes pixel shift. Will hot, chip with a low resolution -> Software refurbishing -> video will be saved. In my eyes, very suboptimal. In other areas, Panasonic is certainly right.
For battery life I can only say that there is synonymous Batteries of other manufacturers as the original. Mostly a lot cheaper.
If Canon, I would in any case with the new 24Mbit / s take. Even if it is only with the hard disk or hybrid there. One with only flash memory would be optimal (mechanical movement of the hard disk).
Antwort von pp800:
Hello
The CX12 and CX11E are probably the same camera, only ne other name. At least I see in the product Describe any differences ...
A propos SonyCX11E. Is there perhaps someone who already owns this cam and it can report?
Or maybe someone already has a couple of test reports and can read me the pass?
Unfortunately, Google does not report her to test this camera.
Would be glad if someone of this report could camcorder.
Regards
Philipp
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... CX12 and CX11E are probably the same camera, only ne other name ... The CX12 is designed for the U.S. market, the CX11 for Europe: As expected the differences to the usual PAL-/NTSC-Thema limit.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von pp800:
Well, at least the Swiss have a CX12E.
In contrast, Sony Germany's "only" a CX11E ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... the Swiss have a CX12E ... Okay, so it looks like this:
CX12: NTSC
CX12E: PAL with USB input (for European countries outside the EU)
CX11E: PAL without a USB input (for EU countries)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
I would be interested in the SonyCX11 synonymous. Is this because nobody reports it? Schwanke is always between the SR11/12 and the CX11.
Antwort von domain:
This is probably synonymous depend on whether you are with the Sony Memory Sticks live can cost twice as much as SDHC flash memory cards and are probably synonymous much harder to obtain (eg on holiday), because rare
Antwort von pp800:
True cheap memory sticks are not really ...
But if the camera is otherwise well, there would be a disadvantage acceptable, I think at least ...
Now you only have to test or experience reports have to know how the camcorder because it performs as opposed to eg Canon HF series or synonymous to the Panasonic.
PS: Video Aktiv Digital is probably in the next issue to a test. In mid-September is the extent that I have read.
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
The Speichrmedium is the lesser of two evils. I just do not know how much material is in the best Qalität on a 16Gig card fit. I think is included with the Sony if I am not mistaken. Have the last days already so widely read that I no longer know where and what exactly.
Antwort von pp800:
Hi
So as far as I know there Sonyeinen 4 GB Memory Stick with, not 16 GB stick. Would synonymous to good to be true ...
How much, however, at 16 GB it fit ... I have never read nor synonymous. Only that up to 6 hours in HD drauf fit.
However, this is probably not the best quality then ...
Antwort von Bernd E.:
How much ... but at 16 GB it fit ... I have never read nor synonymous. Only that up to 6 hours in HD it fit ... This referred to the website refer to six hours on a 16 GB stick and in the lowest possible HD quality "AVC HD 5M (LP)" - precisely Sonyfür call this setting a maximum recording time of 290 to 355 minutes. In the best quality level "AVC HD 16M (FH), this capacity still for 110 minutes Studio - for Camera supplied 4GB stick creates 1920x1080 at only 25 minutes. The complete table with all the information in the manual that came with the CX11/CX12 Assessment.
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von domain:
In my opinion you should not have too much of the image quality tests in various media influence. The picture quality is clean in all consumer camcorders with the same sensor size and the same technology in some ident
Rather, personal preferences should play a role, for example, how is the handling, I can have a micro 3.5 mm jack plug and a header synonymous phones, there are manual controls and how easy they are achievable and to use, how good is the display and / Viewfinder or the storage medium is used and what they cost per hour / minute recording time, as is the general quality and the price of the camcorder, etc., to name a few nennnen.
Then, the decision may actually not so difficult and if it is still hard, then you throw a coin holding and will certainly synonymous with this decision satisfied ......
Antwort von Starter:
In my opinion you should not have too much of the image quality tests in various media influence. The picture quality is clean in all consumer camcorders with the same sensor size and the same technology in some ident
Rather, personal preferences should play a role Exactly ... and we all buy s.Schluss the SonyHC9 :-)))
Antwort von AndreasBloechl:
Alles klar many times I say thanks for your help.
