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Flycam 3000, besser als Ihr Ruf?

Flycam 3000, better than your reputation?



Frage von FoVITIS:
April 2011

Hi folks,

I put my Money to invest time in a floating tripod.
Sometimes synonymous with the hope that a resale value to high loss brings with ^ ^

But actually I thought s.die Flycam 3000th However, one often reads about bad compared to the HD-2000 of Glidecam.

The Flycam 3000 is currently getting around 210th - EUR quick release and 19% increase from India. Or right here with me in the City for approximately 279th - EUR, then stop for 14 days to return synonymous with remote paragraph law.

The HD-2000 will cost more around the 450, - ... 400th used as - I think.


Is it worth it? Or is the Flycam 3000, but not there?

Is for an EOS 550D including BG and Tamron 17-50 8.2 VC + Geli.



Antwort von tommyb:

If you are buying from the store (not online but in real life), then you have no right of return according to the distance.



Antwort von FoVITIS:

"Tommyb" wrote:
If you are buying from the store (not online but in real life), then you have no right of return according to the distance.


If it's an eBay shop, a shop or I the whole order by phone, email or fax and only pick up on-site then there is the right of return synonymous (If the dealer primarily operates its offer for a shop. Sees is different from when I my baker or the pharmacy and then send a mail order something and then pick it up;)).

Different course if I go directly to a store and buy the product there. I could be there so synonymous testing (what I would do with such an expensive product in a safe synonymous in peace ^ ^)

The times OffTopic.








Antwort von pilskopf:

Who buys from the Indians, bought 2x. You bought the original and your shots will thank you. On the other hand, many synonymous with the original practice noguten shots because they do not understand the physics behind the Steadicam and the noMühe make to try to understand them.



Antwort von Axel:

"Pils head" wrote:
... Because they do not understand the physics behind the Steadicam ...

Nope no, that's not it. Hand-held camera / Steadicam is jazz, and the Miles Davis said: "No matter how good you are prepared, in jazz you are always live and naked."



Antwort von FoVITIS:

So the statements without facts are all worthless.

And I buy probably not before the Indian born but rather about 60EUR more from the Berlin and Purchase. Since then I can pick up and return directly have.

The auction of used HD-2000 is approaching its 400th - marke ...



Antwort von pilskopf:

Remaining below 1.4 pounds and get you ne HD1000. I recommend as always a fixed focal length of the WW has more than your Tamron. Ne is really smart Steadi with depth of field sofrn to do it. I love to use my 20mm 1.7f with my GH2, Sharpness set to 1.5 m and one can turn nice things with it. Otherwise ne Steadi comes just with a super wide angle. The HD1000 is in any case more appropriate but you should keep the weight. Is determined synonymous over 1.4 kilos but I do not recommend this anyway at Ner Handsteadi.



Antwort von FoVITIS:

If I hardly have the money for an HD-2000 .. I will hardly 2.000 .- for a Bright Wide Angle have ^ ^
Focal and more I find not so practical. My 17-50 2.8 VC is very good.

On the HD-1000 I thought synonymous, which does currently used synonymous. But the seller sold it for exactly the reason why I should not buy it. His new camera is heavy with the lens of his offices. And my lens is even more difficult than his.

I will post once a package store my camera weigh;) but I think those are about 1.300g And that is too close to the border with s.der can be balanced by a good ...


Echterdingen exorbitant prices at the. Material value max. 20EUR ... rest is made up of construction and profit I think.



Antwort von Maze:

We hattendie 3000 earlier in the company, a work that was impossible. One could imagine the stabilizing effect only. Absolutely useless. Had stressed the Flycam 5500 and that is something different, but synonymous with vest and arm.



Antwort von FoVITIS:

Maze Hi, thanks for your feedback.

Also of some videos on YT I have to say synonymous rocks the whole nice. True but synonymous to Glidecam.

When you see the other it is nice and soft hardly varies.

Therefore, one would have to directly compare the models!


However, I've seen videos of synonymous Flycam which only turned around and after a few times back and forth were s.eiern. Just as the videos say HD-2000 set super ... and in my eyes wobbled.

One would really have both: (

If YT is a video that compares the two well, but unfortunately not in Germany ageable .. Copyright grrr



Antwort von pilskopf:

It is not s.der Glidecam if these wobbles but s.der wrong orientation of the weights and a possible imbalance of the Cam, is synonymous to advise a very hard to be blocked on the micro Still Image schools. Setting up a Steadicam is very difficult and impossible if one has not understood the physics. A Steadicam is not to wobble, then there is the physics is not a good set Steadi will never wobble because they do not, of course, but it can vary slightly what weeds out the best case for his guiding hand, but on sunny days you can see the not even often synonymous and can not keep in balance. Or wind, which is always unfavorable in Ner Steadi. So most of the errors are all from the server itself and not of the art. That is why you practice synonymous synonymous but it does not benefit much if you do not Steadi can adjust perfectly. And that's what you can with the Indians are worse than with the HD version of the processed Glidecam really very good. This is anything but cheap crap which you are buying, if you want Präzesionsarbeit with resale value and it is often sold as the operator can not handle it.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

"FoVITIS" wrote:
....
Echterdingen exorbitant prices at the. Material value max. 20EUR ... rest is made up of construction and profit I think.


So really you're not often at the hardware store, right?
How much does ne screw with spring, NEN NEN stock and milling head can not really be your art in such statements.

I agree to head beer - buy yourself something clever like you more.

MfG
B. DeKid








Antwort von FoVITIS:

I think sometimes synonymous pils head.

So yes, the question whether the double synonymous price is justified.
Many seem never to have had both versions in his hands.

Shake can each if it is incorrectly adjusted.
Or any parts are defective.

Do vary slightly each synonymous in some series you can see the rock so synonymous out and her ...
And the pros use are really expensive Steadis including the vest.

So the setting is bad. Ok I can live with for now.
But is synonymous logical. The HD-2000 can rotate through all the little screw s.den adjusted.
In Flycam 3000 has to move to the plate, which is much less comfortable.

In his 3000 has some YT Modified she looks very stable. Unfortunately he did not say how well he has modified. He does not recommend the purchase from .. because the Indians have embedded the video on eBay to be modified and take it out do not want.
.....

This is a Vid of the.

This looks reasonable.


@ B. DeKid. Where are things s.den for screws with springs?
I know in fact not what is the wholesale price for bulk buyers. However, I know the prices and pharmacies often Bauhäuser so synonymous make profit by selling the parts do and they hardly sell for their commercial value;)


PS: the differences are just already heavily in price

Flycam 3000th New: about 210-270 .- incl Quick Release. Used around 210th -
Glidecam HD-2000. New around 480th - 420th approximately Used -
Steadicam Merlin. New around 720th - used about 600, -



Antwort von B.DeKid:

The screws of the quick release plate have feathers.

Furthermore, the HD 2000 is set at the plate via screw thread - which serves only the fine adjustment

The weights you can move down is clear.

Deti can tell you what both systems - but basically everything was already said
Conclusion Purchase ne Glidecam garnix or buy - it's not worth the 200 ¬ if you were in retrospect only scrap in front of you.

PS There are already NEN few negative experiences with Flycam products and these can be found in the forum - of Glidecam reads rather not know.

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von susy:

"FoVITIS" wrote:

If YT is a video that compares the two well, but unfortunately not in Germany ageable .. Copyright grrr

Give me please the link of the video-I Schaus me.



Antwort von FoVITIS:

Did not the link .. remember me noYT Links ^ ^

Did that yesterday the right seen in the proposal list. And after the plan can click stop "in their country blabla" Have searched but could not find it.

Only the http://vimeo.com/9902137 with the 5000 and the Merlin.
There is the Conclusion

Merlin-stable and is faster auszubalancen (synonymous costs so the 2-3 times)
Flycam-off the balance after losing, but to act stair climb at better if it is balanced.



Antwort von RocknRoyal:

So,

I am in possession of the Glidecam HD-2000 and I will not want to miss. With a tripod (stand - self-made) in which the balance Gimpel (handle) is inserted to determine better the drop time etc and it is a dream. I was able to deliver directly to the first steps after 5min useful results are often surprisingly impressive. BUT then I still have not the strength and exercise to really spend several minutes and start to wiggle after 30sek/60sek and then you think s.eine vest. The question for me is now time, whether it is synonymous for the HD-2000, a vest or just the 4000 or you can use the jacket of the 4000 SENSIBLE synonymous with the 2000s?

Greetings



Antwort von susy:

"FoVITIS" wrote:
Did not the link .. remember me noYT Links ^ ^

Did that yesterday the right seen in the proposal list. And after the plan can click stop "in their country blabla" Have searched but could not find it.

Only the http://vimeo.com/9902137 with the 5000 and the Merlin.
There is the Conclusion

Merlin-stable and is faster auszubalancen (synonymous costs so the 2-3 times)
Flycam-off the balance after losing, but to act stair climb at better if it is balanced.


vlt time you look in your browsing history if you have not deleted:)

www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cx8mOdeDQRY (s.ende shows you where the short-merlin wobbles a bit ...)



Antwort von FoVITIS:

Oha, I think I am as wrong.

That was the only one I found out the same message came
the iss but 3000 vs. 5000 ^ ^ was then probably but a false memory: - /

If someone really such a turn Comparison.

Thanks for the review Susy, whom I had once saved, only nimma where ... I've been looking for:)

Pils @ head: again to the HD-1000

I once weighed in the balance Paketshop s.der ^ ^

Complete Camera with Lens and Geli including BG and 2 Batteries weighs 1498g
This would eliminate the HD-1000 total.

If I did, however, waive the BG along with high shutter release, then there would be only about 1150g. So 250g air ... However, this is still almost 83% of the maximum load. Is that still OK?

The HD 1000 has had to use in any case the advantage that it synonymous with small video cameras.


Oh had the dealer here once emailed and asked how the run would return with him to ... times what they see writing like that. Maybe I can the Flycam 3000 so times at rest and then test report and video material. The HD-1000 does indeed synonymous almost as much as the HD-2000.

PS: went on ebay the used HD-2000 off just below the original price ... I say yes .. Used prices stable ^ ^



Antwort von Bilderspiele:

The with the lowest weight I would not watch so closely. Had ne 700 gr Camera can balance the Glidecam 4000 Pro. The only problem was the Ausklappdisplay side. At higher speeds, the sail works and how violently disturbed the balance. Now I have no ne XL2 viewfinder display on it with L4 as the weight down. Is very stable. One can
lightning-fast movements make compensation, without which the situation changes. Had the Flycam 5000 shortly as synonymous. Had compare noLust but because both are optically not very distinguished. For both professionals are not recommended, because far too fiddly. As it should have at least one Glidecam HD with his vest.



Antwort von FoVITIS:

Too bad compared so would have been great ... Now, suddenly, the 3000 sold out in the 5000s and only available ^ ^

So HD-1000 for the 300th as .. That's it! ^ ^









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