Infoseite // From SD to HD, of XM2 on? Purchase recommendation HDV Camera



Frage von Tackie de Lez:


Hello forum community
for weeks I have read with interest and must now look to get rid of my question.
I am owner of 2 Canon XM2 camcorder, which I mainly used for the following projects:
- Certain courses at the University of record (Multicam)
- Travel Documentation
- Simple promotional clips (for small businessmen, craftsmen)
- Music Clips (for friendly bands)
As mentioned before, the whole still with SD / DV, but I have made this year on the last train aufzuspringen HDV. This should be within the next 3-6 months to happen. The quality of the images and the possibilities irritate me too much.
My question now is aimed in the direction from which camcorder I should growth. As described above, my projects are not focused on an area (eg, EB), but cover the most common scenarios.
Equipment Technically I'm ok (not highly) equipped Steadycam, Fluid Head Tripods, wireless microphone system, iMAC + FCS system, etc., so I technically budget exclusively on the camcorder may focus. My budget, I would in the area around 5000 ¬ + / - respectively. I think in the price range you should get something good? Recently, I have a few clips of the Canon HV20 and was seen quite astounded that (lack of) depth, the Cinelook, that was really amazing - for film grad. Something like I would in any case, synonymous like in the next camera. From the format, I am completely open (tape, flash memory). What would be up to date or for a purchase in the next few months, your recommendations?
Greetings - Tackie

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Antwort von Daniel H.:

I stand before the same decision and wonder especially how promising it is still on a tape camcorder (pronounced: Canon XH A1/SonyV1 or directly SonyPMW-EX1 / Pana HVX200) to set or to switch to flash memory venture. Will not be in the next few years once again have to follow suit.

Thanks and greetings

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Antwort von scubavideo1:

Hello,

I would be in accordance with the present state of things still to wait 3 months (until Sonydie production of the EX1 has a grip) and then I obtain a part.
In terms of future security, you're so on the secure page. Furthermore, the full 1080i Cam Resolutionvon 1920x 1080 pixels (and not the anamorphotic botch of HDV with 1440 x 1080).
1080i25 is synonymous possible if desired.
And that brings a part of HD-SDI output with.

For journeys would be considered an extra handy camcorder tape to buy.

... just my 2 cents ...
Kai

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Antwort von Tackie de Lez:

What I forgot to mention: In my current technical conditions are green screen shots a big challenge and not the output of the yellow egg. Cam's future should be synonymous in this respect meet and useful results.
Thanks for your tips - Tackie

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Antwort von AKED:

"Tackie de Lez" wrote: What I forgot to mention: In my current technical conditions are green screen shots a big challenge and not the output of the yellow egg. Cam's future should be synonymous in this respect meet and useful results.
Thanks for your tips - Tackie


So when Green Screen shots, I would in no case a HDV camcorder, because there Farbsampling at 4:1:1 is what Green Screen shots quite problematic.
To Keyen have a camcorder with Farbsampling of 4:2:2 much better and then you land on the HVX200.
The need, however, is light and in low-light cameras are weaker than others.

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Antwort von Kalle:

A Panasonic HVX200 with the modification of Hydra Reel | Stream (http://www.reel-stream.com/index.php) meets almost all your wishes. However, the said modification has not yet available, but otherwise, the HVX200 is a top HDV camcorder, in my opinion the best in its class. Together with the modification will not actually your requirements unfulfilled. price, just under 5K, so fits synonymous.
My 2 cents.
Kalle

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Antwort von scubavideo1:

On the subject of green screen, I can only agree that HDV is not functioning optimally.
As an alternative to the Panasonic HVX200, one could take the SonyEX1 and the signal via HD-SDI tap - BEFORE XCAM HD Compression.

This is like I have with my SonyV1E before, but to get there via HDMI s.die umkomprimierten data (1920 x 1080 resolution).
To then get to the calculator, you need an HDMI card, for example, the intensity of Black Magic (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/)

If the green screen / blue screen shots are to be rotated out, the HVX200 is actually the tool of choice.

Kai

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Antwort von Johannes:

"scubavideo1" wrote: On the subject of green screen, I can only agree that HDV is not functioning optimally.
As an alternative to the Panasonic HVX200, one could take the SonyEX1 and the signal via HD-SDI tap - BEFORE XCAM HD Compression.

This is like I have with my SonyV1E before, but to get there via HDMI s.die umkomprimierten data (1920 x 1080 resolution).
To then get to the calculator, you need an HDMI card, for example, the intensity of Black Magic (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/)

If the green screen / blue screen shots are to be rotated out, the HVX200 is actually the average Wahl.Kai


It was how-to-synonymous D-Day on a SonyV1 rotated. And the result is read to see so synonymous with the times Greensreen not always the whole picture covered. Mal ne ask when ChromaKey and DV
is not so great because of the carfully Eckigen pixels or something like that.
If I use the Camera s.den PC and directly on the host PC would solve my problem?

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Antwort von scubavideo1:

Hi John,

not if you have the V1E via firewire and connected to the calculator, it will be because the video data transmitted as HDV (MPEG2, anamorphic pixels, actual Resolution1440x1080, interlaced).

Gruß,
Kai

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Antwort von Gast Ritis:

At the origin Poster: If you already are familiar with XM2, XH A1 schonmal s.eine thought. Is probably the best camera in the price range. Green Screen so you will not optiomal hinbekommen, but I doubt in the whole HD (V) camcorder with MPEG nunmal the work. With the HVX200, I could imagine that perhaps this year, a successor (HVX210) comes? Times I would wait for NAB this year?

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

XHA1, EX1 or HVX200 ... And you with the A1 s.günstigsten away.

As mentioned in another post already written can be found at the A1 also uncompressed material and tap it with a capture card to bring the PC.

Then is synonymous easy keying possible and the problems of the HDV format are removed. Unlike the HVX200, the A1 has a sharper and higher resolution. The EX1 can I receive them because of their higher price and the time before the outside.

Only so much - I would probably rather get an A1 as a EX1. The Sony camera has many good ideas but they take some synonymous with the new problems that are difficult to iron out.

The successor model of the EX1 mE could be really interesting.

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Antwort von Tackie de Lez:

"smooth-Appeal wrote:
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As mentioned in another post already written can be found at the A1 also uncompressed material and tap it with a capture card to bring the PC.
...


That sounds interesting! My search then was unfortunately unsuccessful. Can you still remember s.den title or even have the link handy?
Tackie.

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Antwort von smooth-appeal:

Good question ...

You can simply request the Canon support, I have my information. They gave me very detailed and technically versed replied.

But do not come up with the idea to call! Either the times do not know what the XHA1 is or they have no idea about the product, let alone the technical details. Me should be a technician to call back, but is synonymous never happened. Stupid Call Center snipe:-D

So, ask yourself writing s.and press as complicated as possible from the same request will be forwarded s.einen technicians.

If you me your email I can give you the info synonymous charge should still be in your inbox.

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Antwort von Axel:

"smooth-Appeal wrote: If you me your email I can give you the info synonymous charge should still be in your inbox.
Could you quote the text not as easy to copy your post? I think the interest here is more people.

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Antwort von Kalle:

absolutely! So so forth, but hopefully will not secret ;-)

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Antwort von Helloweenie:

"scubavideo1" wrote: On the subject of green screen, I can only agree that HDV is not functioning optimally.
As an alternative to the Panasonic HVX200, one could take the SonyEX1 and the signal via HD-SDI tap - BEFORE XCAM HD Compression.

This is like I have with my SonyV1E before, but to get there via HDMI s.die umkomprimierten data (1920 x 1080 resolution).
To then get to the calculator, you need an HDMI card, for example, the intensity of Black Magic (http://www.blackmagic-design.com/products/intensity/)


... could be the HDMI signal is not with the apple pro res 422 compress?
times write about your experiences.
gruß cj

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Antwort von Helloweenie:

Why should it not go?

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Antwort von scubavideo1:

Synonymous, I think that it works with ProRes422.
With the Balack Magic Intensity card that I had worried times, my G5 could not begin, however. With the Intel Mac I will again attempt to start.

Kai

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Antwort von AKED:

"Kalle" wrote: ... but otherwise, the HVX200 is a top HDV camcorder, in my opinion the best in its class. ...
Kalle

The HVX200 is not HDV camcorder.
It is a DVC PRO HD camcorder.

HDV takes time in Mpeg 2 with long GOPs Iframes and 4:1:1 on and does the HVX200 (Thank God) is not.

That it is the best in their class is, I agree to you.

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Antwort von hhmb:

The magic 4:2:2 HD codec DVCPR, well ... What the report says Slashcam test is something of the magic disappearing:
http://www.slashcam.de/artikel/Test/Panasonic-HVX200.html (section "The 4:2:2 DVCProHD codec").
A Canon XH A1 price class, but the HVX plays in the same league with. And now?

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Antwort von AKED:

It was not about me "Filmook" that you have with the many options he HVX200 can achieve.

It is about the keyen against Green or Blue Screen.
And ds is better than with 4:2:2 with 4:1:1.

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Antwort von hhmb:

What is synonymous with the Canon can do ...

It takes only one capture card and fast hard disks.
Both together including new acquisitions of the Canon should still be cheaper than one "receptive" HVX.

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Antwort von Unwissender:

"Anonymous" wrote: What is synonymous with the Canon can do ...

It takes only one capture card and fast hard disks.
Both together including new acquisitions of the Canon should still be cheaper than one "receptive" HVX.


How does it work with the A1? Has anyone already tried, how good are the results and what is called "fast" hard?
Questions about questions.

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