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General question about "light"



Frage von aight8:
Oktober 2010

So now I'm synonymous arrived at the theme of light. Although I did not intend to buy the same morning several lights, please do me a bit of enlightenment to bring light into the dark .. ;)

First I would like a head light set for the camera. And although Dedolight Ledzilla.

He makes even an ordinary light to brighten the scene. Also extremely economical, because LED. Even cable need not be because the shoe 8W come from the battery.

Now there even as the Dedolight of here:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/293452-REG/Dedolight_DLH4P.html

It consumes ~ 15 times! As much electricity. Need a more intensive course synonymous external power supply. But now .. if you make a scene. Ie, wide angle, scene would be repeated, etc. are not sufficient for an 8 watt lamp? If they brighten as good as the Ledzilla.

The Ledzilla one can put on a tripod. Or even more dependent.

Need for scenic shots when you are just a big set or studio is not strong lamps so?

Lights are very expensive as I know, so I really would like to grope forward cautiously.



Antwort von Pianist:

Fallacy on your part: This small dim light is a "head light" so that you can brighten up people for interviews, which is one meter in front of your camera. A whole "Scene" You can not illuminate it. You do so for different purposes different light sets. Even with a complete Dedolight You can not illuminate large areas, these lamps are designed for accent lighting and suitable for this wonderful.

Tell me some of your typical shooting situations, then we can certainly give you here some bright tips.

Matthias



Antwort von aight8:

Frankly, I find it so difficult without experience! To cite an actual case.

However, I can rule out large sets or studios.

In I can use the lamps including the already there and are light to the scene specifically auszuleuten extra. Or how to do that?

Now for the exterior shots. What a light you use there? I can imagine good reflectors. But as in the path where you want to brighten up the little person just to the scene to better bring to bear.
Do we really as strong as 100W light and so?








Antwort von Pianist:

"Aight8" wrote:
Frankly, I find it so difficult without experience! To cite an actual case.

Do you work somehow in the wrong order? But first you had to know exactly what you want to shoot. And then, discussions on the how to illuminate it. For an interview in a pub I would recommend you something completely different than if you would like coverage of a steam locomotive at night on a turntable.

Matthias



Antwort von aight8:

As mentioned above, I need an all-purpose light for generic scene photographs to "expose" better and the object which is so relatively close s.der Camera (vlcht later of different perspectives.) Better illuminate eg for a Short Film: Close-up of Internal brighten scenes brighten external settings.

But not all the same background or a hall! Internally, the room containing harmonic fade up, etc.



Antwort von Pianist:

"Aight8" wrote:
As mentioned above, I need an all-purpose light for generic scene photographs to "expose" better and the object which is so relatively close s.der Camera (vlcht later of different perspectives.) Better illuminate eg for a Short Film: Close-up of Internal brighten scenes brighten external settings.

For this paragraph I can not tell sometimes whether you want to shoot people living or small Knetmännchen.

Matthias



Antwort von aight8:

Living people;) as indoor. Additionally, however, use the existing lights. And outside in the car containing eg 2 people talking in front of the seats. Or run through the station and chat with each other. I would like to illuminate two is better.

So as I said. A standart light is still there everywhere already in place. So no studio or whole sets of illuminating the ground up. So much money I have not. However, the people themselves must again be placed directly into the scene.

Better way? ^ ^



Antwort von deti:

So to make a little light inside to meet three synonymous with construction lights 500W each. In any case, with Frost film before, if the light is used directly. Outside or s.Fenster tuns usually synonymous reflectors or even a sheet or a Styrofoam plate. Electric light (eg with metal halide lamps, HMI) is more for larger productions. The EB's do a head-field light, but since you have other requirements synonymous, because you want to illuminate substantially relevant to the O-sound part of the picture.

Deti



Antwort von Pianist:

"Deti" wrote:
So to make a little light inside to meet three synonymous with construction lights 500W each. In any case, with Frost film before, if the light is used directly.

Then tell him but synonymous immediately that he film the frost on a wooden frame and staple to keep enough distance from the radiator. Just not any films directly to the construction lights wrap, since the melting temperature is exceeded.

Matthias



Antwort von aight8:

Baustrahler're around 20 ¬. Why does the taste of real "video" 500 watt lights around 1000 ¬?



Antwort von Pianist:

"Aight8" wrote:
Baustrahler're around 20 ¬. Why does the taste of real "video" 500 watt lights around 1000 ¬?

Gosh, they're completely different designs. Very even light distribution, focusing ability, barn doors ... And 1,000 EUR they cost now not synonymous.

Matthias



Antwort von PowerMac:

You favorisierst an LED lamp because it uses less power than a 100 watt dim light? In the film, even with advertising shoot 6000 watts are almost normal. And one synonymous with HMIs generated much stronger light streams.

Basically I would like to advise you of LED luminaires. Even if they have a white point of 6500 Kelvin, the spectra are terrible.








Antwort von Pianist:

"PowerMac" wrote:
Basically I would like to advise you of LED luminaires. Even if they have a white point of 6500 Kelvin, the spectra are terrible.

This is synonymous added yet. In my view, halogen light is still the most beautiful light, and as a head light, I would currently favor a LUX of Bebob. And purely to make the smallest burner. And runterdimmen.

Matthias



Antwort von aight8:

I had previously read an entire thread on head lights. The Comer in 1800 should be good. The LED is synonymous. But consuming too much. The Ledzilla with Battery would suffice as a head light for example Interviw already.

6000 watt lamps? But with those sets are still dark studios without Vorlicht or whole illuminated - or imitating the sun through a window, no?

They are really quite different dimensions. Such scenes, I'm not at all;)

I want one or more persons in addition to the existing light only brighten, or internal cue to create a small.



Antwort von deti:

"Pianist" wrote:
"Deti" wrote:
So to make a little light inside to meet three synonymous with construction lights 500W each. In any case, with Frost film before, if the light is used directly.

Then tell him but synonymous immediately that he film the frost on a wooden frame and staple to keep enough distance from the radiator. Just not any films directly to the construction lights wrap, since the melting temperature is exceeded.

The normal construction lights have a curved front grill, as the film Frost would almost always far enough away to be of the heat source. It yes, the film reaches the top of the s.Henkel with construction lights to attach a clamp. I can go tomorrow even a picture of so and try to make a design, whether it is too hot.

Deti



Antwort von 7nic:

Then a light head absolute nonsense.

Possibly. would be for you a case report (3 * 800W of Ianiro) range. Or a Dedolightset. Or something similar. I'm concerned, synonymous with a fabric-covered frame you illuminate with a construction lights.
Think about holding something. But you do not buy a head light.



Antwort von markus-s:

"Deti" wrote:
I can go tomorrow even a picture of so and try to make a design, whether it is too hot.


Oh yes, please. And film the experimental setup ... that could arise with the right construction lights a nice viral YT video, a little ala Mystbusters. But please do not burn down the whole place that is not worth it then. (If our Lee film I was skeptical arg in combination with construction lights.)

If you have more temperature but films that hold out the experiment with NEM 500W-construction lights for an hour, then please provide the source for the slides. Merci!

Markus



Antwort von Lutz Dieckmann:

Hi,

I have read here grad times, you lack much basic knowledge about light. If you look then you can make the anli answer many questions themselves. Check out all the time but my tutorials relating to light through
http://hd-trainings.de/tutorials-light.html
Since you will help a lot I think.
If you have questions, then maybe I can help you.

Regards

Lutz




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