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Frage von anna100:


Hi,
I've mal'ne Tonfrage:
recorded mono copy is clear, but how do I get the time delay, or whatever the Stereohöreindruck mind going? I've tried erfoglos with Audition. Perhaps it is indeed not at all synonymous in this way and manner? Only I can in a movie so synonymous not only with mono stereo only alternate. So, for example. forest scenes (only atmo) then into the village at any openair stage history (Typical micro). And if I have several soundtracks on average use, I would have external sound synonymous with 'nem recorders to record and then synchronize, or equal with' nem mixer and two microphones to work because I am only two channels on the camera have?

Thanks for the help of a.

Thread of the mod in the section "post-production generally" moved.

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

'anna100' wrote:
recorded mono copy is clear, but how do I get the time delay, or whatever the Stereohöreindruck mind going? I've tried erfoglos with Audition. Perhaps it is indeed not at all synonymous in this way and manner?


The stereo impression, ie the localization of the local origins of noise created by time differences so the sound to the ears. If the noise of the right is the term for the left ear more than the right. The brain requires the combined and identified: noise of the right.
These time differences you have with your Monoaufnahme not. You will therefore never be a stereo signal it can generate.

You can of course from the Atmo use canned (dubbing sound in stereo) and your Monoaufnahme on the panning knob your NLEs s.einen specific (virtual) place slide. Then comes the sound of much more right or more of the left. This is done by software for you. Provides especially when recording with monaural origins as a Language (1) person.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Quote: Only I can in a movie so synonymous not only with mono stereo only alternate. So, for example. forest scenes (only atmo) then into the village at any openair stage history (Typical micro).

Raff ich nicht.

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Antwort von david2:

Quote: You will therefore never be a stereo signal it can generate. So absolutely, I would not want to say. There are those wickedly expensive (stereo! Or surround) Hall devices with which you have all sorts of rooms as they can form.

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

"david2" wrote: Quote: You will therefore never be a stereo signal it can generate. So absolutely, I would not want to say. There are those wickedly expensive (stereo! Or surround) Hall devices with which you have all sorts of rooms as they can form.

Well, since you simulierst a church or a concert hall. Say the indirect sound. But this is not synonymous real stereo, in my opinion.
Imagine anna100 has with the mono in the forest to the atmosphere: eigentl is right with the highway passing cars, above and behind the birds chirp, chatter left and a few pedestrians in front of us a horse snorts. Stereo could all be mapped spatially positioning. In mono, but now there are no differences in duration and only one channel. How do you want this Geräuschgepansche again zerpflücken?

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Antwort von Wiro:

'anna100' wrote: ... mono copy is clear, but how do I get the time delay, or whatever the Stereohöreindruck mind going?
Time away from any stereo theory:
if you reproduced on another mono copy, you have 2 same-sounding mono tones. This time offset the Stereohöreindruck makes you get out now by taking the Pan control the 1st Track to provide links to the 2 Right on track. Then a track to move to 2-3 frames and this one has called. "Pseudo-stereo".
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

"Wiro" wrote: This time offset the Stereohöreindruck makes you get out now by taking the Pan control the 1st Track to provide links to the 2 Right on track. Then a track to move to 2-3 frames and this one has called. "Pseudo-stereo".
Greeting Wiro


This should, however, more like a reverb or echo to listen to nix stereo ...

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Antwort von Wiro:

Completely true.
It seems to go about this abrupt stereo-mono-difference (Hörpanorama) to conceal, when viewing a film is in the stereo and mono alternately occur.
The pseudo-method makes naturally from mono no stereo. It attracts the Hörpanorama in Width. An old trick, which it did for the first stereo tape recorders were used, as most songs still existed in mono. Man said, "then listen to stereo ... ;-)
Greeting Wiro

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Antwort von anna100:

Exactly, right. That is the point. If it ever wants to tackle, and the two "keys" in the sequence brings it clearly audible. And Pan + move sounds unnatural somehow synonymous. I hab'versucht the transition with a couple of music bars to conceal, is somehow acceptable, but not always synonymous fits.
Yes as triggers for now the professional bearing such problems? Stereo on the Cam, and shotgun on the rod, line, or Sum of the PA, and everything übern Field mixer?
Or another variant: L = shotgun on Cam, R = radio link to the "Cast". Then I can again only twice a mono output.
Bring on the television reportage / Interviev mix and not have any restore consistently over stereo?

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

To my knowledge, interviews, etc. are recorded in mono. If surround sound is needed, then either properly recorded in stereo (s.Angel shotgun and second s.der Micro Camera help because nothing!), Or it is in the post-stereo material interfered.

For large film will SOWISO the whole new sound "together".

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Antwort von anna100:

Well, then first of thanks for the contributions.
Do I somehow rumtrixen probably next.

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Antwort von robbie:

sag and look for what you need, maybe you go on in the wrong direction, or perhaps you need to make no stereo ...

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Antwort von anna100:

Hi Robbi,
So as I already said:
I come from a scene (forest with full of noise willed, my city synonymous Rush-hour) for an event. Bühnendist. ca.10m. Around Puplikum. They are so important Atmotechnisch synonymous just 10dB too loud. Now, I would then switch to the micro-directional, so that's already better, so now I listen mainly what I shoot.
Only the hearing is now quite different. My problem is the transition.
I've still no sound archive with various audio clips from the corresponding I could Atmo drunterlegen. Even if you create something so it must be quite specific and audio per synonymous again be so general that it fits very often. See noise CD's. Twenty times more forest and whistling "the wrong birds."
Somehow it all just walking aids.
My idea was: the best possible for the micro filming, and then align imSchnitt everything.
With 'nem Tonmann + mixer would be the thing off the table so that I could be the mix of 2 or 3 sources to send Cam and good. Yeah, I did not.

Gruss a.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

Ideally, this recording does not. Perfect would be separate tracks of sound engineer, the stage sound mix. As could Atmo a stereo microphone of the stage weggerichtet good.

But that is no longer so now.

A concert with an indicative mic ... sigh.

What speaks against it, yet his own shots in the woods to make?

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Antwort von anna100:

..... nix concert. Soloists, festival.
Sure, I can back into the forest, but that is yes with a Aufwasch be done. In the future. And usually there is no time for again and again.
Ich brauch 'ne eierlegende Wollmilchsau or something. Or enlightenment.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

It sounds perhaps silly, but it is totally factual and value-free meant: screwing your rights back if you're not willing, several Abreitsschritte done. After all, you have the sound as an important criterion covers what ever you're next, than most amateur filmmakers. Unfortunately it s.geeignetem equipment whose lack synonymous you're not willing, with a little more work to compensate.

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Antwort von anna100:

Well, it probably is. But would have to be the closest that I've overlooked.
Thank you for the time being.

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Antwort von AndyZZ:

Haste is not as a small MP3 player can hold synonymous? Those things have sort of iRiver often. Small stereomic off or earwig proboscis (snout but was?) Zack and done. The atmosphere does not need to be so perfect, I think.

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