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HD-Kamera für Einsteiger gesucht (Max. 2500€)

HD Camera for beginners looking for (Max2500 ¬)



Frage von Lateiner.:
März 2011

Hello!
I'm new here, so ma so much: I have a Panasonic TC-7, with which I turn my smaller videos (I know, shame on me) and use Final Cut Express for editing, with whom I get along synonymous already reasonably well (the program but only moderately with the AVCHD codec, the camera, but that's another story).
Now there is a new purchase of a camera. Because me this "Depp Automatic" to get annoyed with my Panasonic (since when I have to convince as a stupid machine with dirty tricks like this to do what I want of the thing.
So I have looked at the tools, with the highest test points, I have a little eyes out gekullert. The six best cameras on the list exceed my budget to continue that effort SonyPMW-350 from the bird.
The seventh-best, dieCanonXF100, comes with its 3000 ¬ quite close s.mein price window (which I might reach with Rumgefeilsche the dealer again), I find it really interesting dieCanonXA10, which strikes a nice low price.

But what I want to do with the camera anyway?
Right now I'm with my Pana chroma keying in front of a homemade green screen, the results are due to the poor quality of video images often quite poor (synonymous when I try anyway, with FCE get decent results). I would like to make but synonymous with a fellow amateur short films director, me with something long in the ears, is synonymous but can film events (which depend mainly on good low light properties).

What do you think? Which camera would you recommend me?


Latins.


PS: I've been planning for some time to buy a Steadycam system. Particularly positive my Glidecam system is noticed, which can be expanded with the Smooth shooter expansion with vest and arm. But as has always been synonymous of several years of practice time, the question - what do you practice there? This (admittedly somewhat optically suboptimal) path? Or, keep to that, even with vest and arm, are simply not long enough? This course I can do quite well (this Merlin imitation of Manfrotto have) ...

Thank you!



Antwort von masterseb:

I think the JVC GY-HM100 fits very well for your needs. better than the canon XF100



Antwort von Lateiner.:

Hmm ... was tested here to gambling? On the Internet I honestly think mostly bad news ... Why do you think the JVC is better suited?








Antwort von masterseb:

do not believe everything you read on the internet - will not watch TV for free and used for broadcasting. Globalmediapro or phillip bloom, for example, love the camera.



Antwort von Lateiner.:

Have the camera found in the database - has received only a "Good", in the review were especially praised the good workflow integration (?) - But not so low light seems to be the charm, right? Would be for me just already important, not only ne "fair-weather camera" to have;)

Latins.



Antwort von toxitobi:

Green Screen shots for the XF100 with their higher sampling of colors will be appropriate 4-2-2 better than JVC GY-HM100. Both have the Mpeg 2 codec. Canon takes here 50Mb / s, the JVC 35Mb / s, so zuverarbeiten relatively easily with FCE. When you're kleineresCanonXA10 then again at what AVCHD and 4-2-0 for keying and editing your program is not as nice.

For low light:
http://www.camcorder-test.com/camcorder-9e11c94b32c6170d41fc4806cc03b33a.html

Just compare the two images, one notices the two years between the phenomena of the cameras.

Greeting Toxitobi



Antwort von Lateiner.:

Yes, it shows ...
AVCHD is actually a format that "demonize" you should?
I verteufle AVCHD lite klipp and clear, so can hardly handle a program (FCE bspweise not) and the conversion times have washed themselves. (But hopefully with a i7 Quad 2.5GHz with no problem should be more, right?)
I schonmal SonyCX505 with the "work" - the quality is pretty synonymous, despite AVCHD. What do you think?
I think the XA10 containing interesting because of its cheaper price ...

Thanks for all the votes have yet to come and review:)


Latins.



Antwort von toxitobi:

AVCHD requires a different workflow. It converts it into an intermediate codec like Cineform, ProRes, etc. which then can be processed better. Or have them delivered quickly Calculator with high graphics card power, which is used for processing the virgin stuff.
This Act but an advance editing program that can use the Power synonymous.
Here are the individual representatives:
Adobe brings here the Mercury engine, with the help of CUDA on Nvidia Grakas sets.
Apple takes Prorescodec therefore needs more hard disk space. FCE can handle only recently with the ProRes files, exactly, I can not tell you that, you have to look even once.
Edius and Vegas have created actually become synonymous ne good integration of native AVCHD. Especially with EDIUS Neo 3.0, it is now running very smoothly without synonymous Icore Processor. The program I use and am completely satisfied.
For Avid, I can not say anything.



Antwort von Lateiner.:

ProRes of FCE is supported natively, so much I can say:)
Will this now start noGrundsatzdiskussion about cutting programs ...

Thank you!

Latins.



Antwort von Lateiner.:

I do not honestly hold that with the cameras is the best price / performance ratio ...

Latin



Antwort von Jott:

"Toxitobi" wrote:
Both have the Mpeg 2 codec. Canon takes here 50Mb / s, the JVC 35Mb / s, so zuverarbeiten relatively easily with FCE.


Caution: FC E may with the XDCAM broadcast formats (XDCAM EX from Sony, XDCAM 422 of the Canon) do anything at all. This is the domain of P FC.



Antwort von H_P:

"Latins." wrote:
I do not honestly hold that with the cameras is the best price / performance ratio ...

Latin

Depends.
If one counts only the outcome and meeting the conditions of the camera is a no preference, it is certain that xa 10 award winners performance.
If, however, and many buttons s.der 4:2:2 Camera (so you do not always look in the long menu must) know dieCanonxf 100 better.
Pattern Technical really differ only by 4:2:2.
But whether it does so much for a 1 chip camcorder is placed beyond question








Antwort von Lateiner.:

"Jott" wrote:
"Toxitobi" wrote:
Both have the Mpeg 2 codec. Canon takes here 50Mb / s, the JVC 35Mb / s, so zuverarbeiten relatively easily with FCE.


Caution: FC E may with the XDCAM broadcast formats (XDCAM EX from Sony, XDCAM 422 of the Canon) do anything at all. This is the domain of P FC.


Really?
I once said to be synonymous with FCE times encountered XDCAM ... Only a mistake on my part?



Antwort von domain:

Here are some samples of raw XF100
http://www.mediafire.com/?vrp637b9gdc0m
Yes it can test even know if they are directly importable in FC.



Antwort von toxitobi:

Achso I was not aware of the FCE does not support this format, had thought would be the mpeg2 no problem, thanks for the clarification.
Did you borrow from you do not close the possibility of the cameras again?
This helped me to zuentscheiden.
A sensor provides DEBAY but max 4-2-2 4-4-4 s.Informationen therefore does not make sense only at 3 chip, but there is certainly Wowu the crack.

Greeting Toxitobi



Antwort von Lateiner.:

I'm practically Markotech just around the corner ... Are at something like the right person?
And hiring ... I hardly think a dealer would make no fees, right?



Antwort von toxitobi:

Well to do but sell cameras, then they should do it as synonymous. Just try it, and call back.

Can then report on the reaction times yes.

Greeting Toxitobi




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