Infoseite // HDV - Another intermediate solution



Frage von grovel:


Hello everybody,

I am currently cutting HDV (of the HC1) in Vegas and I fit the existing solutions do not really ...

Of course, I cut with intermediate files. I decided to chase all the original transport streams in order to Procoder by the much smaller (480x360) to create transport streams. Does not 1GB per hour, cutting s.Laptop is finally a reality. The folder structure and file names are in the original (on the external hard drive) and Intermediates (on the laptop hard drive) the same.

I now tie depending on whether I want to work precisely with the originals or intermediates to the appropriate folder V: \ (like Vegas)

Of course, I have automated the whole, created a simple batch file, which v at the first call to bind the intermediates: \, renewed calls for changes zwichen originals and Intermediates.

This file can be found in the attachment of this posting. Prior to use, still have the two variables in the BAT file to be adjusted, which can be but even without programming knowledge.

Vegas must be the change the way not even stopped, the files just go offline briefly and then again in the new format online.

If anyone has any suggestions or use this little script would look I find out about synonymous feedback.

SeeYa grovel

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Antwort von wolfgang:

A similar script has elcutty designed for HDV - can be found here:

http://www.videotreffpunkt.com/thread.php?threadid=1764&boardid=36&styleid=6

And, of course, synonymous for Vegas gibts Gearshift.

At least I will not download the above - you will only download the file download.php down.

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Antwort von jens:

"wolfgang" wrote:
At least I will not download the above - you will only download the file download.php down.


right click, 'save target as "?

Click once with the left mouse button ... works for me

Greetings,
Jens

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Antwort von grovel:

"wolfgang" wrote: A similar script has elcutty designed for HDV.

Yes, the elcutty method I know, but first, I did not cut with AVI-intermediates, but with m2t intermediates, secondly, I shudder s.dem idea that every time I switch back and wants to go, turned around my entire Vegas project will . On my way everything is handled on a Windows level, the Vegas data remain unchanged. (Well, of course, Vegas, even some internal changes when moving, but in principle it remains the same)

SeeYa grovel

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Antwort von wolfgang:

In Gearshift you are relatively free to choose what kind of proxy you want to use. I have here some preferred mjpeg-avi proxies.

And no, the download simply does not work for me. Neither justice nor with with left-click. Can s.firewall lie?

Space


Antwort von Marco:

Why do you use as intermediates back an MPEG stream. Is really an unnecessary resource killer, at least sometimes as intermediates.

Marco

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Antwort von grovel:

Because the files are small, with tolerable quality. I want this time actually with my laptop on the road may intersect.
On the other hand keep the killer in resource limits. The work goes on my 1.7 Ghz Mobile Pentium liquid, even simple transitions, while output via a Firewire device are possible.

Of course, this is for and against it, but I'm so pretty and I tried out all the variants chosen for this solution. I prefer the by now synonymous for this project, then I am going to take a public Conclusion.

SeeYa grovel

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Now it was the download - was indeed the firewall.

Have you ever tasted with mjpeg-avi intermediates? 480x360 does not hold particularly large - and mjpeg-avi intermediates in HDV2 / 2 Resolutionsind entirely synonymous sense on less powerful systems editable.

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Antwort von grovel:

Yes, the power consumption mjpeg are really ideal, but in the quality of MPEG is simply superior. I mean, it really is a luxury to cut s.Laptop to sit on the train, and full access to material 30h to have - and this with an attractive quality ...

Speaking of train, I s.morgen for a week away, so comments are still welcome, but I'll hardly be able to answer. From 14 I'm found again here.

SeeYa grovel

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Now we should, but sharp distinction between "intermediate" and "proxies". If you are doing in the meantime to files such as mjpeg avis-umswitched, editing, and then just before final output to the original material is switched back, then we tend to have the proxies before us. In this case, the quality of the proxies were not even soo important - because it is rendered before the original material away.

Unlike the other hand, at "intermediate". Created to cut out the HDV material in the intermediate - and then makes the final output of the intermediate codecs path (such as the Canopus HQ or synonymous with the Cineform Intermediate).

The way I interpret your tool so far (untested), were both working so obviously conceivable. What one does is synonymous perhaps a bit of a question of taste.

Space


Antwort von wolfgang:

What happened actually here in this thread.

Gibts this has had any experience - None really tried that?

Space


Antwort von paxmax:

Thus, the tool works great for me.
I would just like to know whether something like the one in Vegas can make batch conversion with irfan view, only with videos.
So I want the car vegas the original m2t. m2t file into. intermediate converts, without me having any of the original hand in the timeline and then be in the intermediate rendering.
that ProCoder is with me is clear, but that's what I would then buy extra.
or perhaps someone has another free solution?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

So sure, there are several solutions in Vegas - as a solution remains a small tool Gearshift, which can be bought for a few dollars at VASST, which already for Vegas 7 is available.

Another solution is in the Vegas forum on the local user casiomeier available tool VLHT - but you'll have to get himself, his tool is not directly next to anyone. Talk about this here:

http://www.vegasvideo.de/forum/thread.php?threadid=6019&sid =

Both tools perform the conversion, however, about Batchrendern. There were also the tool Connet Cineform HD, which the conversion already done in capturing - but which is relatively expensive.

http://www.cineform.com/products/ConnectHD.htm#CHD_Features

Currently, however, has Cineform in Vegas 7 still some problems with the Vorschaugüte who are still in progress (relatively limited frame / second) rate.

It should be pointed out that Vegas 7 is now synonymous with the native editing of HDV material has become quite well. Especially for the HDV editing pays Vegas 7 therefore entirely.

Learn more about Vegas 7, we have published:

http://videotreffpunkt.com/tutorials/Vegas7/index.html

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Antwort von grovel:

Like to add here, perhaps, that I sense that now my first HDV project had been completed.
The scene, however, then 8 hours of material were processed as s.Schluss and inserted into a Project. Otherwise, the change when you switch with the above method took far too long. More than 2h material overburdened Vegas because each time. Adjusted projects (ie, only those takes that were eventually used with) could then be imported without problem in a final project (23min. cut, but with) about 2h30min material, where I performed all synonymous fine-tuning work . Exchange of intermediates to the original each about 20 sec.
With Vegas 7, the whole should go much faster, at least if, as promised Vegas 7 HDV files faster reads.

Again, as a note. This project was cut on a laptop with Centrino 1.5Ghz with 512MB RAM. This is FAR below the normal hardware requirements. Still no problem. Many details were worked synonymous with the original files, such as lip synchronization. For that I worked with each 10sec. Cutouts in the RAM preview mode.

I wish all much fun with the HDV projects.

SeeYa grovel

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Antwort von wolfgang:

At Vegas 7 has the compulsion to cut through proxies, sometimes considerably reduced. It either has changed the cut on Cineform intermediates, or synonymous native editing. What you better take depends on the specific workflow instance and the compositing share.

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