Frage von el saso:
Hello!
My problem:
Have to HDV rotated, all in the cam to dv runterkomprimiert and so in the pc (premiere cs3) than 16:9 pal imported.
in the safe rand (per set at 20% I think) you can see eg the kompendium, which through the viewfinder has not seen.
until now everything is at normal.allerdings export more secure than the rand to see, namely, the whole building, as it is in the monitor in premiere is to be seen. this is bad, as much as we do not want to spend.
have already tried reinzuzoomen, looks shit out, and ne maske drumzulegen (anamorphic cool, but the left and right, a black synonymous rand).
tjaaa how should I approach it now? otherwise export?
for advice, I am grateful!
regards
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
Hi, on a normal Television is usually the edge again, look for "Overscan" (+ here in Wikipedia). If the clip is published on the Internet will only help curtail or zooming.
By: that one sees the compendium is unusual; ww adapter? Nepopoln Compendium?
BG, Andreas
Antwort von el saso:
That's what I thought synonymous, because during normal Dv yes it is synonymous. Since the edges are already gone, however, if the preview in the burning program is running, this was not the case and synonymous to an LCD, the compendium can be seen.
That it was in the picture is due to the fact that the Dacherl just too far in it was probably because someone was gegengestoßen.
And as I said, zooming scheiße da worse quality, prune synonymous since the left and right black bars ..
Antwort von Markus:
And as I said, zooming scheiße da worse quality, prune synonymous since the left and right black bars. If you exclude these possibilities, it is really only one solution: turn again, but true.
Antwort von el saso:
1. is total rubbish shoot again. it was an event. and 2 has nothing right or wrong with the spin to be done, it is merely the export of videos.
Antwort von Markus:
and 2 ... has nothing right or wrong with the spin to be done, it is merely the export of videos. The toolkit is available in the Picture to see and this has nothing to do with the recording to be done? - Okay, so I can live well. If yes, finally, not my problem.
Find someone you like to Anblaffen!
Antwort von el saso:
It is absolutely not the kompendium, that would be no way in the building if I remember correctly export könnte.im viewfinder, it was synonymous not be seen.
but I have been synonymous in my first post written.
So all is well dear times through before any comments because of false rotated come. you can own it always better to do.
Antwort von work_hard_play_hard:
I do not understand why a lighter crop is not good. HDV but should be sufficiently greater resolution than DV, in order to allow. Of course you should first (in HDV) and then cropping the Zielaufloesung runterskalieren and not HDV -> DV and then zooming & cropping.
Antwort von el saso:
was not because the pc hd not participate.
if you are in hd and record it in dv spends it still has more pixels than when it is in dv würde.dass start the program but when I mitausgibt dv pal as an export option, surprise me
Antwort von Markus:
in the safe rand (per set at 20% I think) you can see eg the kompendium ... It is absolutely not the kompendium, that would be no way in the building if I could export it right. That has nothing to do with the export, but rather that in the picture up to a certain proportion is something to see, not to be seen to be. The ratios (20% from the edge =
Title Safety Area) change when you are not exporting, no preference in which the target image is done.
Depending on the output device varies nichtsichtbare area by 10% (Safety
Action Area) plus / minus, depending on the brand, model, age, etc. This means that the compendium will yet be seen. It lies outside the title area, but within the Action Area.
It remains therefore only the cropping, if the post-rotation is not possible.
you can own it always better to do. The second time, yes, because the experience with disturbing content image within the recording may not be visible at some areas makes.
if you are in hd and record it in dv spends it still has more pixels than when it would begin in dv. That is not true, because the recording formats are predefined. SD / PAL stands for 720 × 576 pixels.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
If you still have the tape, is looking for you a clever calculator, give out as HDV, crop and then adjusts it again.
Another option I do not see because the picture always looks shitty if you cut it and then back to PAL s.Ausgabegerät highly expected.
Antwort von el saso:
el saso has written the following:
if you are in hd and record it in dv spends it still has more pixels than when it would begin in dv.
That is not true, because the recording formats are predefined. SD / PAL stands for 720 × 576 pixels.
_________________
but this is unfortunately very well.
This has caused the whole problem.
Antwort von Markus:
Can you explain the times?
Antwort von el saso:
Can I make s.Montag happy. I have the s.der work as stated, and what to say when the vote synonymous. In this case I am afraid ...
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
What do not you Mark?
Once you have of converting HD to SD, you will remain but only the PAL resolution on SD if you just equates with PAL.
Antwort von Markus:
Once you have of converting HD to SD, you will remain but only the PAL resolution on SD if you just equates with PAL. That is clear. What I questioned was this:
if you are in hd and record it in dv spends it still has more pixels than when it would begin in dv.
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
Now I have somehow interpreted the sentence would have originally come of thee. I had been wondering :-)
@ elsaso, that's really not. It may be that you will receive more image information of HD if you expect it after SD but SD Picture has always been called the number s.Pixeln. At least in our latitudes ...
Antwort von el saso:
I can only reflect what I was told, and which I believe to 100%.
if the image is larger than a normal sd bild, ergo must be more synonymous pixel be there.
Antwort von Markus73:
I can only reflect what I was told, and which I believe to 100%.
if the image is larger than a normal sd bild, ergo must be more synonymous pixel be there. And how do you ensure that it is bigger? DV is DV, which is standardized and always the same, no preference of whether or HDV runterkonvertiert directly produced.
Gruß,
the other Mark
Antwort von el saso:
absolute rubbish, sorry.
dv, as it already is, digital, which means you can see it in any arbitrary size, aspect ratio, pixel, etc. verändern.ob it still reproducing media runs is another matter.
The thing is, I have other videos in dv always worked, as was the size, or the image of s.ende came out, always the same, what the preview in the program was cut. so just above the 2nd safe rand (no comparison to other, since each such edge safe so can be as he wants). Now I have to dv hd compressed, and what I ultimately will output more than it is in dv is the case, which is as synonymous dv was. and this "more" can only more pixels sein.oder mistaken because I am now complete?
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
An HDV camera, the SD-Resolutionherunterkonvertiert is 720x576 = PAL output. What else was never, never and never will be. The image resolution of PAL is so even at 16:9, which is called a rectangular pixel.
It may be that you are in a normal graphics program (ie, no cutting program) a 16:9 image prepared Still from the clip reads and then find properties 1.024x576 pixels. This is because the normal graphics programs do not deal with rectangular pixels and the snapshots can be adapted accordingly.
See attached example hardcopy, with VLC from a raw AVI withdrawn.
But your AVI, MPEG Dein, Dein DivX - no preference which will be captured as SD, they are 720x576.
So, now what ...:
I can only reflect what I was told, and which I believe to 100%. Now here you have a few well-founded information given to you from other sources could easily verify and each with "I do not credible" or just with "absolute nonsense" have been acknowledged. If you do not believe
us: there are other forums synonymous.
Antwort von el saso:
"An HDV camera, the SD-Resolutionherunterkonvertiert is 720x576 PAL output ="
yes but apparently, you have given me even until now synonymous no sound explanation can be given why my bid is higher, which I incidentally do in cs3.
if I knew why, I would of course like you say because of this that comes forth and so sadly synonymous not solve the problem.
"If you do not believe us: there are other forums synonymous."
this is an internet forum, and I believe of course, primarily the people here with me more, would you make as synonymous.
As I said monday so I can look at their explanation, or ask appropriate.
or you do tonight yet:
info@zdf.de
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
ZDF, I would think nothing:-D
Sorry, but DV is DV or SD or SD. That is just so. Maybe yes but you have captured in HDV. The at ZDF are determined not to know with HDV cameras ;-)
Antwort von el saso:
is just came to me-I am trying times of the video premiere of a normal sd camera off and then re-import then you could see how to hire a "big" picture in sd is not it?
Antwort von el saso:
"The at ZDF are determined not to know with HDV cameras ;-)"
oh but ... suffering sad detail ... ;)
Antwort von Markus73:
absolute rubbish, sorry. Well, if you mean.
dv, as it already is, digital, which means you can see it in any arbitrary size, aspect ratio, pixel, etc. change. Only then is it not a DV more ;-)
Show me one - just ONE SINGLE synonymous - Camera, in the "DV (PAL)" does not mean 720 * 576 and I'm ready to change my opinion.
If you believe that your "computer" has more pixels than anywhere else in the world, then would be the easiest way, the generated files times with a diagnostic software (such as Gspot) more closely.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von el saso:
that's the theme that a camera sd 720 * 576 output is perfectly clear.
but I see the problem on the way of hd, camera, about possible conversion to sd in camera or on the way into the pc-cut into the program.
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
yes but apparently, you have given me even until now synonymous no sound explanation can be given why my bid is higher, which I incidentally do in cs3. The only thing we know about your picture, this is what you claim: "Have to HDV rotated, all in the cam to dv runterkomprimiert" (should probably read "runterskaliert").
That which is at the Camera escaped back is when the statement as true, can
only 720x576 pixels. And there is absolutely nothing wegzureden, and your colleagues when you have so much bequatschen. The other option is called HDV.
If you accept that could be the solution is now relatively easy to explain. But I think here:
Find someone you like to Anblaffen! I now synonymous at times.
Antwort von el saso:
it has not runterskaliert yes, otherwise it would be in the size of sd.
I see we have not come here next.
you are so much festgebohrt in your opinion for you that it seems impossible that it could be more pixel -
"What in the rear camera is escaped when the statement as true, can only be 720x576 pixels. And there is absolutely nothing wegzureden"
tja it unfortunately because I LIVE here in front of me can see that there are more pixels are, unfortunately, shows me the contrary.
I did not with the "anblaffen" started, but you have time someday learn what, and do you think the opinion that "there is nothing else."
I'm sorry, well that not all think like that otherwise would be the technical progress is not so far.
thanks for the efforts to help me,
I will trouble the engineers s.montag describe then yes you can tell how happy the right solution is.
the "bequatschen" I do not, they have all studied and have been working for years in her career, sorry if there are more times than it has ahnung and you do not see them.
Antwort von snoboy:
ne one has the flap!
Antwort von snoboy:
... because I LIVE here, unfortunately, before I can see that there are more pixels are, unfortunately, shows me the contrary ... That is so synonymous part of the problem: No one except you see the material and you have previously stated, unfortunately, not much, with which an outsider by the problem can be (and not even the ZDF can change the fact that an intact HDV Camera at runterskalierter SD output the standardized Resolutionausgibt and nothing else). So:
What camera was rotated?
What camera settings and what channel to the PC?
And most importantly: What is this ominous Resolutionhat material anyway? "More" pixels is a very flexible concept!
... then yes you can tell how happy the correct solution is ... Do please!
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
And again I was while writing the forum software of "Logged In" to "guest" downscaled ... ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von snoboy:
My colleagues at the BBC have said, "You're lying upside. Ask yourself:
info@bbc.co.uk. The CNN have totgelacht and said, learn something sensible:
info@cnn.com. My friends at RTL
(info@rtl.de), Vox
(info@vox.de), Cable One
(info@kabel1.de), the ARD
(info@ard.de) all say the same, your material is not SD.
I will send you something too, to
info@moechtegernprofi.de, right?
Antwort von Wiro:
This is a terrible funny discussion here.
The "el saso" seems to be a complete newcomer to the basics of digital video editing missing.
If you have an HDV-Picture (1440x1080) to SD (720x576) downscaled done nothing more than for any digital image editing synonymous: in the horizontal is Every 2nd Weggerechnet pixels in the vertical, it is more complicated, the principle is the same. Thus one sees on the downscaled picture exactly the same as the original. The Picture is only small and therefore has less detail.
Greeting Wiro
Antwort von snoboy:
even in-zdf heute journal, I have recently seen 4:3 material (pressconference green), which was dragged to 16:9. have all studied, prima! :-D
Antwort von snoboy:
One should never be the hardware Scalierung an HDV Camera take - have with such material, unfortunately, synonymous already have to work.
What did I say?
Well, in any case the quality was poor grotto, the miles of distance, which in hindsight (after the post, grading, etc. ..) would be possible.
The picture was simply coarse, grainy, restless, blurred, etc.
Gruß Dennis
Antwort von Martin Dienert:
Hello el saso,
I am mixing times here even though I have not studied sowas. ;-)
If I understand correctly when you have the DV camera in the Viewfinder seen as synonymous afterward on television shows. In the HDV camera, you'll see in the viewfinders but less later on television as can be seen.
Have you ever come up with the idea that the HDV camera simply too few in Viewfinder display. Let s.die Camera shows only the secure area in the Viewfinder, then cut on each 10% of the image. You do not see your compendium. After cutting and export the video on a television view of only 5% Overscan has been and you'll see on each Page of 5% and more synonymous your compendium is to be seen.
If you really think you're the DV file exported more than 720x576 pixels, I would have liked a bit of it (or at least a picture) and even see the pixel count.
Martin
BTW: DV is DV and remains
Antwort von Markus73:
Dear el saso,
why you do not actually follow the same basic goal as the leading Council, the file with Gspot to analyze? This would provide the facts (of which there was too little yet crucial) and you need no longer be any "experts" to ask for advice.
The nature and manner in which so far has been argued, does not necessarily help
- To resolve the matter, and
- Your concern really be taken seriously.
Gruß,
Markus
Antwort von snoboy:
The nature and manner in which so far has been argued, does not necessarily help
- To resolve the matter, and
- Your concern really be taken seriously.
Stop it, is a waste of time. His great friend at the ZDF have versaut (if I have read that correctly), and now are at once all soooo smart:
sorry if there are more times than it has ahnung and her can not see I would prefer my drive a nail through the Camera Lens Kloppe as such a Rumzecker the redemptive (and totally simple) tip to give.
Few times, "but a post Still Image", "look with GSpot purely" neee ... everything is coming Gelaber stupid and "it is talking shit."
The do not want to answer, just want the checks!
Antwort von snoboy:
Where is Power? Show times the Troll, where the frog has the curls!
Antwort von smooth-appeal:
The plays wow and probably just as Troll unterwegs ;-)
Antwort von PowerMac:
I get diarrhea of the same crap here ...! el_sadomaso is a stupid troll. So remain calm and eat plant seeds, as I do.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... I will trouble the engineers s.montag describe then yes you can tell how happy the correct solution is ... How has the problem because now, finally solved?
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von sas_hh:
Moin, am new here, but think it is synonymous everything pretty funny!
You have him now made clear where the frog has the curls;)
However, I must say about this one-maybe he is misunderstood,
because if you like at the turn SonyZ1E in HD, this camera to the DV output, one has a better quality than when it comes to DV would have been (but this improvement is likely sobei 3-5% is ...). That's true. Perhaps he is so confused. The fact that not all at once out of the blue, there are more pixels you should be now, but is accelerated, or ..?!?!
Antwort von el saso:
super, it leads you here as children themselves!
No one knows what the pc really macht.vielleicht yes he is somehow converted.
what is this for a program?
sas_hh that can be synonymous, in the direction of something which I have told
Antwort von sas_hh:
2 times better ask here before you post any mist!
the guys from zdf since then seem unlikely to have to blame ... the problem is probably in your own person
