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Frage von davidsch:


Hello,
in the manual that came with the HF 100 is:
"Once the battery is fully charged
1. Disconnect the compact power supply from the camcorder from
2. Unplug the power cord and AC outlet of compact network device "

Does this mean that the separation must be done as early as possible to the battery not to strain? So I can not even invite you over night, because I am the point s.dem the battery is charged, sleepy. Bring the loading on the camcorder drawbacks compared to a Charger or is it just a matter of convenience?
And what is with the discharge? If the Battery is completely discharged before a new store? Can the Battery synonymous only partially loaded? Known times I have said that the battery is completely discharged and ge-be.
Thank you for your answers:)

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Antwort von Spielkind:

as far as I know, is the unloaded etc no longer necessary and the load on synonymous not harmful. but can be synonymous to me because someone has told something wrong.

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Antwort von RickyMartini:

In my experience, the camcorder stopped charging once the battery is full and overload is prevented. Otherwise, it would be not possible, a Battery to fill, but without being damaged.

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Antwort von davidsch:

yes, I Leave me something to you;)

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Antwort von deti:

"davidsch" wrote: Hello,
in the manual that came with the HF 100 is:
"Once the battery is fully charged
1. Disconnect the compact power supply from the camcorder from
2. Unplug the power cord and AC outlet of compact network device "

I suspect it is an attempt to humanity to save energy to move. After all the switching power consumed synonymous without Camera attached 1-2 watts.

"davidsch" wrote:
Does this mean that the separation must be done as early as possible to the battery not to strain? So I can not even invite you over night, because I am the point s.dem the battery is charged, sleepy. Bring the loading on the camcorder drawbacks compared to a Charger or is it just a matter of convenience?

The shop in the camcorder mainly Canon brings a greater margin, because we again have an extra charger can sell.

Generally, in Li-ion Batteries to overload rarely an issue because of the charge cycle s.Ende a constant voltage is applied and then the power goes to zero. If the camera or Charger integrated in the charging circuit is not off, it would be the Restladestrom during a 24-hour cycle nor unproblematic.

"davidsch" wrote:
And what is with the discharge? If the Battery is completely discharged before a new store? Can the Battery synonymous only partially loaded? Known times I have said that the battery is completely discharged and ge-be.
Thank you for your answers:)

Much more important is that Li-Ion Batteries tiefentladen - this should be through regular charge cycles can be achieved. A prior discharge is not urgently needed, as Li-Ion Batteries Memory effects hardly show.

A Li-Ion Battery is usually after about 2 years irreversibly broken (ie it has less than 50% of its nominal capacity). This degeneration is chemically conditioned and usually quite independent of the number of charge cycles, depending of the storage conditions. Against this background, it is my experience, no preference as to whether genuine Canon Batteries or Ebay buys generics.

Deti

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Antwort von darg:

S.der Ladeendabschaltung The hook is that it does not shut down the senses. A small leakage of a few mA is always there and kills the battery over time seen. Unfortunately, the Ladecontroler not really in a position to the maximum level of a battery to recognize the line, it is better, from the Battery charger to disconnect it. Likewise gillt especially in laptop batteries, but for Camakkus should it act as synonymous.

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Antwort von deti:

"shown" wrote: S.der Ladeendabschaltung The hook is that it does not shut down the senses. A small leakage of a few mA is always there and kills the battery over time seen.

No, this is not - you conclude from the symptom to the wrong cause.

Basically: Li-ion cells to age faster, the higher the cell voltage is. When a cell stored so charged, and then ages them faster than if you charge ideally between 40-60% of maximum capacity.

All I know Laderegler (eg, Maxim, ST, etc.) work this way: If the charging current is below a certain value falls, it is still a next time and then loaded into the so-called top-off state is changed. Since then flows absolutely not charging more.
The values for start voltage, Endstrom, charging, etc., for each battery model individually, so the Laderegler always in Battery integrated.

"shown" wrote:
Unfortunately, the Ladecontroller not really in a position to the maximum level of a battery to recognize the line, it is better, from the Battery charger to disconnect it. The same will be true especially in laptop batteries, but for Camakkus should it act as synonymous.


No Li-Ion Ladecontroller need the level of a battery in order to invite him. This feature is used only to capture a time or remaining capacity indication.

Conclusion: Those with a Li-Ion Battery no longer needed it should be at 15-20 ° C with a load of 60% and store it around every year to recharge.

Deti

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"deti" wrote: ... A Li-Ion Battery is usually after about 2 years irreversibly broken (ie it has less than 50% of its nominal capacity) ...
For the life of a Lithium-ion Batteries haunt highly disparate elements around, but two years is definitely too short. My little more than two years old Batteries - Sony both originals as synonymous replicas - have received little if any s.Kapazität lost, and of my colleagues use such Batteries for up to eight years. Their loss is now estimated at 30%.

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Antwort von deti:

"Bernd E." wrote: For the life of a Lithium-ion Batteries haunt highly disparate elements around, but two years is definitely too short.
Sure can a battery last longer synonymous - especially if it is properly used and stored. The typical two years apply to's 100% loaded at high temperature storage, such as the notebooks are often in the case.
Not least, many satellites are synonymous with Li-ion cells and keep it much longer - probably the better synonymous processed.

Yes I would be interested to know how this will look at the electric car behaves ;-)

Deti

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