Infoseite // HF100 or hv30



Frage von al!baba:


which of these two cams? video editing with final cut and sony vegas
va synonymous fast sports movements

isn now or what the best hd below 1000

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Antwort von dirk.thiele:

So what are the sharpness is concerned with the Canon HV20/30 and HF10/100
both up front in the ceiling below 1500 ¬.
Which of the two is better then was asked!
What for and against the HV20/30 Speaks:
-extremely loud noises when you drive without an external Micro just barely long silent shots movies can!
Daylight-Perfect Qual / sharpness (almost the same as HF100)
Lowlight-good (better than HF100)
-many manual functions (HFs for the missing part)
-twice as big as the HFs
-Viewfinder has only HV20/30!
-super 3.1 megapixel still images with truly impeccable images (such as 6MP Digi ne) and many functions (5 series flash photo under synonymous receptive possible etc.)
worse-wide (applies to both)
-only 10x optical zoom (12x HF!)

Basically saying the two cameras in its sector to deliver the best qualified!
However, they compete against each other is not!
The other is holding a small well-equipped AVCHD Freizeitcam, the other more of a Profssionelle (re) HDV cam for ambitious film!
Beit with before and disadvantage!
Sharpness during the day is almost identical.
Buying tip, they have both of mine.
Decide yourself whether you need to just get a small hobby Cam wants or something "real."

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Antwort von dirk.thiele:

So my HV20 produces absolutely no audible drive noise. I film a lot of natural, un blumen so fun and have not had a single time the drive is part

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Antwort von al!baba:

So hello, I really would like something more professional.
what do you do with the notes of professionalism?
s.der post?

thank al! baba

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Antwort von Zizi:

So either your ears are broken or my cam ;-)!
My shots are so thoroughly as would be heard as a lawnmower in my case!
And I've ne ja HV30 where allegedly the drive noises again improved ...
I ask myself Canon s.besten be after .. otherwise I should replace the Cam!

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Antwort von al!baba:

s.den or manual control, or have I just answered my own question?

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: So hello, I really would like something more professional.
what do you do with the notes of professionalism?
s.der post?


I had 4 AVCHD cams and further bothered me not so much like all say! (I had Pinnacle 11 and a strong computer)
Nevertheless ists /'s pretty lässtig because you convert AVCHD without so much as no player can play ..
Perhaps ists only imagination but to me, the quality of the HDV codec for better than the AVCHD? Besides missing my camera feeling of small plates / card cams.
Had previously (Panasonic GS400, SONY cx6, Panasonic SD5, SD9, JVC HD3 and now the HV30 in which I will now set ...
I felt professionally postpress synonymous, but in really great at the HF and the lack Focusrad, viewfinders, and many manual settings, etc..

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Antwort von al!baba:

what do you think because of the HD7 of jvc
which is indeed worthy of the camcorder in her comparative actually quite good except for maybe the little chips that in turn 3 as so beneficial ggüber of hv30
but this may indeed synonymous full hd and has cool features professional
it is perhaps better than commonly believed?

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Antwort von Zizi:

Hd 7, when compared to the HV30 light neutral colors focus ring, a lot better processing and better design and the plate (at the HV30 would be absolutely awesome with HDV irgentwie?)!
The rest he absolutely can not keep up!
Lowlight-Sauhaftes behave
-Sharpness
The saved-Mpeg2.TOD is / was for me much more difficult to process than AVCHD!
-FullHD this Cam is absolutely not the name of justice!
So I would in all JVC (HD3-4-6-7), the finger can be!
I have the front as if JVC chip sensors which are no longer competitive =? unfortunately
Stay at Canon, or look at Sonyum.
With panasonic, there would be since the SD1, the picture delivers quite good!
The rest I'd been alone because of the small chips are no longer for sale!
As many pixels on such micro-chips may be just a shot back after his!
Well so after the motto: Many of pixels - sold well!

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Antwort von Nachtmensch:

"Zizi" wrote:
The saved-Mpeg2.TOD is / was for me much more difficult to process than AVCHD!


So yes, I believe you that you are strong with your PC and Pinnacle Studio 11 AVCHD can handle. But this is easier than mpeg2, moving and simply can not agree. High did you format an import problem, but basically mpeg2 is significantly easier to edit than AVCHD.

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Antwort von Nachtmensch:

Well just as I hoped to Mpeg2 presented ..
Net shop with WMP view was sometimes impossible ..
I had the burdensome with the supplied software, only to convert it in a editing program to use.
The reason was the hack: the transformation lasts exactly as long as AVCHD and incidentally crashed this scheiß JVC Program under Vista32 bit is always off! So I want s.JVC to 1 week for the support and needed a real bekahm antwort scheiß what beschärte me more problems than before.
And believe me, I know I am not bad with calculators out!
Finally landed this thing on eBay because I do not want herumärgern if I have around 1000 ¬ a Cam buy where promised economic "perfect for finishing" and incidentally Komprimierungsartevakte still great to see were and when the toppmodel!
Mpeg 2 is indicated here but absurt: they are. TOD files to their full names honor it!
For AVCHD says synonymous None MPEG4 ..

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Antwort von Chrissigorn123:

The main Tonproblem the HV30 can be good but with an external Microphone compensate. Then one has, for example:

A super-image for 850 Euro
One-Superton for 200 euros

= 1050 euro for a fairly good overall (base) equipment -> the SonySR11 cost about something synonymous to the rotation times and I say boldly that its internal Micro not against a Sennheiser MKE 400 or a Rode arrives:)

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Antwort von Zizi:

How right you are ..
Have you ever viewed the Ohrwurm2?
I've ordered me .. So when online tests are supposedly better than brand Mikros and cost only 80euros.
represents the type seler so forth ..
The drive noise I hear with my external (70euro) still a little especially the zoom noise!

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Antwort von Chrissigorn123:

And what with the noises made when the Micro far away of the camera is? As expected but nothing more mitaufgezeichnet, or?

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Antwort von Zizi:

logo eh ..
That put me now to the earwig!
I'm curious how the economy works!

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Antwort von Zizi:

I just came out the drive noises of a defective part was.
So now you can hardly hear what more!
However, with an external Micro Höhr I have relatively easy sweep.
The internal none.

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Antwort von gozu:

"Zizi" wrote: So either your ears are broken or my cam ;-)!
My shots are so thoroughly as would be heard as a lawnmower in my case!
And I've ne ja HV30 where allegedly the drive noises again improved ...
I ask myself Canon s.besten be after .. otherwise I should replace the Cam!


Band sounds synonymous times I had with my cam. More about new bands. What would help: once tape forward and back again - and already there is silent!

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