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HV10 - Bildfehler beim Szenenuebergang

HV10 - Image Error scene Uebergang



Frage von bernardo 48:
Oktober 2007

Hello zusamnmen,

'm new here and hope for your help:

I recently purchased the HV 10 and from time constraints, only 2 tapes (Panasonic 60 ME) can play. Picture quality is excellent, functionality is also ok. In front of my old MV 3i a huge difference, synonymous to Laufwerksgeraeusche stay within tolerable limits. The ergonomics are a bit strange, but you already knew before the purchase.

However, mixing a drop of bitterness in principle the overall positive picture:

If video-recording namely between scenes of the camcorder to "off" mode, then when playing a scene s.Ende often short (about 1 / 2 second), a stop Image shown without sound. This is between the individual scenes is not flowing Uebergang given what I regard as very disturbing.

It is possible that after re-activated the appropriate connection s.die Previous scene is not found correctly.

Question: Has anyone made similar experiences and is a technical error responsible for the Camera, so they need to repair or am I doing something wrong?

Since I do not post the videos, I am very keen to the problem to tackle or resolve it. In that regard, I very much hope to support.

Canon's support is limited to the description of the problem with the way the notice received, that this is by design of the camcorder and was conditionally synonymous this, unfortunately, could not be turned off - great help.

Thanks in advance for your efforts

Bernd



Antwort von Markus:

"bernardo 48" wrote:
Canon's support is limited to the description of the problem with the way the notice received, that this is by design of the camcorder was due ...

Hello Bernd,

s.so something I thought synonymous, but there would have been worded differently. The HV10 records but MPEG2 compressed, so into image groups. I am aware of the phenomenon still MicroMV camcorders, the data also MPEG2 compressed (but in standard definition) have been reported. Since it came when playing for each scene change to a second Still image without sound.

Whether in the HV10 is normal or not, I can because this camcorder does not say.



Antwort von WoWu:

Hello Bernd ..

... it sounds quite Then, as if the camera in the "free run" is running.
Look, if you have something like an "assembler. Cut" can adjust. Then run the camera at each adding a few frames back, go and play in the first cuts to s.Ansatzpunkt clean.
In MPEG, the GOPs (closed or open) but in any case complete. Are they not that freezes the last picture as you have described, a. Sometimes the camera is synonymous in black, or FB.
I know now not to Menumöglichkeiten the HV10 but think this is the cause of your problem.





Antwort von bernardo 48:

Hello Markus, hallo Wolfgang,

Thank you for your instructions. I know now that the problem is not technical or other malfunction of the camera, but an HD system-related fact is that you probably will have to purchase.

A shift to Assemble editing is not possible, so that the HV 10-user with all the most notorious short Still Image must live if the camera is turned off completely.

The consequence for me is that I will rotate the camera always in stand-by mode can be. This is certainly a higher power, which perhaps keeps within limits, because after some time also the head drum in the temporary sleep mode.

There is experience, how long a 850 or 1600 mAh battery holds?

Best Regards

Bernd



Antwort von Don-CB:

Hm, I have a HV10 - zar now have only one correct use with three full cartridges behind but I did a trial a few scenes in the first recorded, and viewed gecshnitten.

When raw material is cut to me but not a freezing of the image (which I would have surely noticed) a suspension of clay (as will listen again tomorrow) noticed. On the contrary - I was surprised how well the scenes in spite of MPEG encoding aneinanderpappen.

I find uncomfortable the very long-time nearly 10 seconds elapse before it can finally begin. Das nervt. Therefore less likely to hold off - I did I immediately bought a second battery. Each is good for about 45-55 minutes (turn the camera, not recording time). There are effective alternatives to expensive original battery which I have a similar quality, trust, such as Duracell makes a - over the internet for about 30 euros.



Antwort von darg:

Hi,
have the HV10 now been two months and had about 7 tapes through. In relation to the problem would be interesting if you have the synonymous, if you look at the tape on the LCD anschaust. Since I have never noticed it.
As the only software I with the tape on the calculator can draw the Scenes separates it perhaps not.
With what you put down your tapes? Haste Schnittkram any set in the menu that I have all rausgenommen so harsh cuts in it, because I always edit afterwards.
Would be interesting as more.

Gruss

Axel, San Jose



Antwort von bernardo 48:

Hi,

zunaecht Thank you for your contributions to the apparently with the HV 10-users have not yet encountered problem of the frozen image after the scene changes entirely off camera.

At Don-CB: Will I still buy a new battery. What did you 30 EUR for the purchase, with the narrow 850 mAh or 1600 mAh thick with?

To Axel: The freezing of Picture and Sound after completely out - and switching is synonymous with the playback on the TV to see. I have the 50 inch Pioneer 507 XA - a beautiful part synonymous with analogue TV in a very appealing picture. Sound comes through Denon AV and Canton LS, including Sub. But the HD picture is simply the hammer.

I have been repeatedly Aufnahmetests made synonymous with fully off and the problem is no longer appeared. It was previously always the case when the tape was recorded about half. So I made a new and even s.Bandende she has worked smoothly. I hope so for the next shots. Coming soon to Egypt s.and then I'll see whether the camera to the service or not. In any case, it is now clear that this is probably not a typical 10-HV problem.

I have not synonymous Camera settings s.der changed. I am the menus again synonymous've gone and nothing can discover what I could change if the problem occurs again. Perhaps it was so synonymous that after I turn pretty quickly in the recording mode'm gone, even though the camera end of the previous scene, but in any case would have to find?

Bad is that if you recorded on a straight and then watch scene of "play" back into the "camera" mode, so when my camera in the correct port is not found - and it appears for about 2 sec. the nice blue screen. This is miserable solved if for all HV 10 and is not an error in my camera is. It would be interesting, of other users to hear whether the case everywhere.

I currently have media studio pro 7 of Ulead installed, but so far only very few of my analogue tapes processed. Generally, I try to film so that everything is synonymous with no cut is to look really good - synonymous of other people. But sooner or later I will be with an HD-editing program libelous care. Is there experience with you, which is easy to handle and satisfactory results?

Best Regards

Bernd



Antwort von Don-CB:

I myself bought a small battery - I do not want to drag so much :-) ...

I watch a scene never to the Camera on - either they or I have nciht - when in doubt, then it will be rotated again. On the small screen, you can not see anyway. And the drives are not designed for out-and herspulen made.

I use Premiere for nearly 9 years at the moment CS2. Works fine, synonymous when it was already a change of 6.5 on PPro ...

I cut everything, every scene, and am only satisfied when I post synonymous've removed the last.

I have only one criticism s.der HV10 - much to the long-time of nearly 10 s.



Antwort von bernardo 48:

Thank you Don for the info CB.

If I were a little more time had come sometime synonymous the cut off, which simply requires a lot of patience and just - enough time, otherwise makes no sense, because the software is free so not exactly synonymous.

Bernd



Antwort von darg:

Hello Bernd,

the question of the HDfähigen program is perhaps synonymous a question on your calculator.
The first mentioned is a resource eater. If your calculator is not uptodate, it may be that it is not really all about. Bin synonymous with the deep valley of the upgrade went. Had a 1.8GHz Core Solo to run under XP with 1GB. SD was so super-smooth under all sorts of programs to premiere, which was plenty slow. CS2 I did not yet tried. Ulead and Pinnacle Studio 10 lala ran so well was the old Pinnacle Studio 7 and Vegas 7th Did you change to HD and so that the calculator was no longer to master. Already playing the preview was smoothly and transitions in the preview were simply no longer played. Have on the board then the Core Solo to a 2GHz Dou swapped and upgraded to 2GB, since it is bearable. HD is truly a different world, especially in relation to preview. Here, I would at least a Core Duo with 2.4 or better recommended. Vegas has established itself as a resource s.wenigsten eating with me and has proved the most possibilities for this. If you look at the software has incorporated the handling is so synonymous unnecessary.

Greeting
Axel



Antwort von Don-CB:

Premiere requires little processing power - I'm just on a Calculator moved with quad-core processor - but which incidentally is now quite favorable.

But did you first stop but synonymous very professional tools and opportunities to cut other programs do not offer. It hangs from the right from here.



Antwort von bernardo 48:

I currently have a 3.4 single core with 1 GB on XP also. When I upgraded to 2 GB, it says that it could go?

I will now synonymous times the above-mentioned Vegas program.

Thanks in any case for support.

Bernd



Antwort von Don-CB:

Without the software to know that you want to use, I would say it will go but you will not have fun. The rendering of your video will take a long time. I did with my old P4 (2.6GHz, 2 GB Ram) S.4 minutes almost 5 hours for a WMV and nearly 4 hours for an MPEG2 rendered. With the Quad is now about 10-12 times as fast. It is, however, is unsatisfactory. For me that was the point anyway the planned change to implement computer instead of more money in the old system to invest.



Antwort von bernardo 48:

ok, then it is clear that the SW-purchase until after the next Calculator pending. Until then, Muus the Camera so Wiedergabegeraet serve as synonymous. I hope that they endure.

To main theme to come back: I have today made several recordings and so far everything seems "to butter" to be.

Thanks again

Bernd



Antwort von jazzy_d:

I have SonyHC3 synonymous with the partial "dropouts" between "scenes" but a "system" behind it to discover. As I am cut but I am anyway no preference. You take hold of 5 seconds longer on. The HC3 has the function of "the end of the recordings are looking for." So there are no "blue screen" which is synonymous time code interruption means. But only works as long as the DV tape is not changed.



Antwort von darg:

"jazzy_d" wrote:
The HC3 has the function of "the end of the recordings are looking for." So there are no "blue screen" which is synonymous time code interruption means. But only works as long as the DV tape is not changed.


The HV10 has the synonymous and so far it has worked for me. Even when changing cartridges. Ask me why, but when Bernd occurred. Maybe the tapes were bad?

Greeting

Axel, San Jose



Antwort von bernardo 48:

Hello Axel,

I have referred to your notice that the HV 10 a function to find the end scene has once again read the manual (I have the Cam only a short time) and lo and behold - synonymous for the blind should be on the back button to be found quickly - so So it goes.

Sorry for my stupidity, I had to find the scene at the end as my old MV 3i tries, namely pressing the Rueckspultaste in the recording. That was the reason for the short bluescreen.

Now everything is fine. Will soon be time a complete tape recording and then I see so, whether the brief freezing of the image by the technique itself has done.

Greeting

Bernd



Antwort von Don-CB:

Which tapes you verwedest / her in the HV10?

After the forum here I've written my old favorites (Sony premium, the low) from my computer time did not even tried it on but expensive Tapes (M-DV63 JVC ProHD) redenominated. But perhaps there are not equally effective alternative with good Resutaten, ie, zero drop-outs).



Antwort von bernardo 48:

I use the Panasonic super and had - albeit at only 2 previously recorded cassettes - no dropouts.

The Panas are inexpensive, although the decision for me, no criterion. But they cause the opposite to my old Sony cam widely used premium in my opinion, much less impression Laufgerauesche. I had earlier tried TDK synonymous, synonymous, but they were louder than the mE Panas.

Bernd



Antwort von jazzy_d:

I have the HC3 in SonyExcellence (about 20 tapes so far) and have never seen a dropout noticed :-)



Antwort von Don-CB:

Sorry, but before the issue here in the wrong direction:

Improve me if I am wrong: a HC3 is not of Canon HV10?

Or what I would like to say: other drive - other experiences ... how to get here in the forum already can read anywhere.

I wanted to be synonymous for a new "tape which uses its" Threat unstop, interested me only the experience for the HV10 - and owners just have this camera with just discussed.

Not bad, but otherwise come here afterwards for nothing more out.



Antwort von bernardo 48:

Hi,

I want the image Error issue extensive use of the HV 10 finally conclude:

The freezing of the image in the scene change is clearly due to the fact that I turn on the camera relatively quickly in the host state has gone and I had not waited until the full recording was given.

Thank you for the many details.

Bernd




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