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Hat mich JVC beschi**en oder bin ich einfach nur zu blöd?

Has JVC Beschi ** s me or I'm just too dumb?



Frage von schtieeef:
Juli 2009

hey,

Please do not laugh at me, but I have the feeling that me, or more generally with the JVC with funds lured real nasty customer.

The following: I never imagined the GZ-HD10 purchased (; I know is not an absolute ne plus ultra but that is not) synonymous. It is following on the packaging, as well as synonymous in the Internet on the JVC site: "Progressive 1080/50p output with 50 Hz.

If I now record video clips, however, they appear to me only as 1080/50i. And no, I have done no wrong settings, we recognize that it is synonymous interlaved footage! If I am now in the bedienungsanleitung Nachschau, as is synonymous with very small signal format: 1080/50i.

I wonder now what JVC says it well on its homepage ...

vllt can someone help me next of you.

Thank schtieeef



Antwort von Manuell:

Hi,
what makes me as a bit puzzled is:

" Progressive 1080/50p output with 50 Hz

Output because there is nothing with recording.



Antwort von schtieeef:

oh no! tell only the mean, I can do myself on my camera 1080/50p footage on it, anschaun on the mini screen, but does not include himself?

I think that's very rude of JVC straight newcomer to the cheaper price class as to the leg to pee.

SCHADE, but thank you for your super fast response!

ps just got synonymous s.JVC customer support written, I'm curious what they'll tell them.





Antwort von Manuell:

Yes that's true ne mess, but it seems to be true. But I am excited about the response from the support.



Antwort von WoWu:

No, that mean that the output format are 1080p50.
The images are interpolated in this format. This is similar to the companies that promote their monitors with Full HD .... is not synonymous means that the monitors must dissolve synonymous actually 1920x1080.
Nowadays you have to look very carefully not to fall prey to marketing strategists.



Antwort von schtieeef:

Send a hey I know it fits grad nich in here, but I know how I nich ne nachricht can;)

hab grad looked at your myspace page and have to say I love it! really good that you're doing matters!

have I just seen the friendly synonymous offered as synonymous as we begin now to "make video production entity"!

I bescheid tell if JVC has responded



Antwort von schtieeef:

"WoWu" wrote:
No, that mean that the output format are 1080p50.
The images are interpolated in this format.


achso, um ... what the heist for me now? Edit in so it is really "just" 1080/50i? and how the interpolation works with him? So I mean, do I have to set the render? sry but if you have a short time you could explain that?



Antwort von KSProduction:

"schtieeef" wrote:
oh no! tell only the mean, I can do myself on my camera 1080/50p footage on it, anschaun on the mini screen, but does not include himself?

I think that's very rude of JVC straight newcomer to the cheaper price class as to the leg to pee.

SCHADE, but thank you for your super fast response!

ps just got synonymous s.JVC customer support written, I'm curious what they'll tell them.





naja I wish I would not criticize you if you say yes, but with HD cam-ner 600 euro for the original price to get the ne plus ultra of us to be the ne olle NV GS500er mini-DV for the same price buys a donkey so used: -- )



Antwort von schtieeef:

:) No that I mean yes nich! I know so synonymous that the camera is an entry-synonymous, and I knew, until recently, synonymous still interlaced and not at what it's all ... hald synonymous but I think that if you take it up with film and co that it just does not benefit AND must be cam I think it just outrageous, especially in the low-class customers bluff ".

now that it appears to me makes the film fun and I'll do that remains, I do not regret the purchase synonymous a little bit ... But well, each time starts small, but not s.oder?

ps: mediamarkt offer, 330 ¬: D



Antwort von Jan:

JVC has not formulated clearly.

To my knowledge it is the output via HDMI, which means the camera will convert the 1080i in the camera in P, and gives this material directly from via HDMI (and, unless I know only via HDMI, so anything by PC via USB). Thus, the transformation in the HD TV is expected to be spared. Whether this is better or worse, it could be debatable.


JVC says that with their DynaPix HD (technology, in the JVC TVs and precisely synonymous) in the camcorders possible a better edge over correction. than any other program & TV converts.


A little more advertising in my opinion. 1080 P, the camera can not record, but this would be overburdened consumer AVCHD standard.


VG
January



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"schtieeef" wrote:
... I have the feeling .. das JVC lured customers with truly nasty means ....

There is no master of the sky fallen yet, so do not take it personally, but at JVC, the problem seems to lie more with less: (The user manual of the camera, is available as a PDF on the JVC home page) that
1. , the HD10 takes in 1080/50i
2. 1080p only come to bear on the output over HDMI, as soon as it (the optimum format for a connected device, so) is Television.
The technical data on the website one can read several times as to what to include in the 1080i format camcorder, and that the image signal (for 1080p output, so no recording!) Will be upscaled.
While I understand your frustration if you want something else did you expect, but honestly: Are your arguments, evidence that JVC is working with nasty means and brazenly anschwindelt the customers? The statements made by the Manufacturer're perfectly fine - just as a buyer you should know the terms, of course, already.
Moreover, I think you'll have so synonymous s.deiner Camera joy: you can just turn great films in 1080i!



Antwort von Jan:

JVC in promotional material that is not synonymous to 100% clearly defined. Eg I've got a detailed description of this - and the word of HDMI does not fall even once guessed that already professionals, but regular users?



But it is so.

VG
January



Antwort von schtieeef:

oke, I must be a clear sache!

I am not in any way dissatisfied with the camera, and yes, you're absolutely right, I would have certainly synonymous somewhere to find out. I'm so synonymous extra every word tell fibs like "" or something put in quotation marks will not mean to seriously zuu. But I still think that it to a, well let's say this is made difficult.

well, so I'd nohc say thank you for your quick and very interesting contribute. Now I only hope that my JVC are not too bad message sent back;)



Antwort von frm:

How long has it or there should be 1080 50P? I overslept because what?
My SonyEx1 only creates 30P * g * How should a consumer camera as a format can not even be opened up?



Antwort von Manuell:

Clearly anyone who deals with the matter, of course, knows this, otherwise I would have no expensive synonymous HPX171 purchased, the only 720 50p ;-).

But who is there not in there in the matter, stop reading fast that the camera 1080 is 50p, which indeed they may seem synonymous, but not as one would expect, but only as an output. Sure, the stands, but if one reads sowas in a camera description can, I understand that you think the camera would beherschen as synonymous recording.

So read along just well, then ask again if you are not sure about and then buy :-)



Antwort von schtieeef:

Quote:
Thank you for your inquiry s.unseren customer service.

The recording will take place in 1080/50i.

With this resolution, the playback via the synonymous
Component output.

The HDMI output is either with 1080/50p playback, so
as a progressive output.
Here, the signal is converted in the camera.

I hope I could help you and wish you a pleasant
Day.

Sincerely,


So you were right, unfortunately ...;)

So the theme would oke then ends with this well, thank you for your quick reply!

beste grüße, schtieeef



Antwort von le.sas:

maybe I nen now fallacy, but how's that, my take on only synonymous fx7 yes i, however, are on the lcd via hdmi no stripes interlaced to see?



Antwort von beiti:

Is there even televisions that can display 1080/50p?



Antwort von Daigoro:

"beiti" wrote:
Is there even televisions that can display 1080/50p?


Since at the LCD and plasma is no longer interlaced, I would be hard tap on it, that the 24, 50 and 60Hz, which can the devices "are progressive".



Antwort von beiti:

"Daigoro" wrote:
I would be hard tap on it, that the 24, 50 and 60Hz, which can the devices "are progressive".
Internally, it can secure. Otherwise it could be translated into useful indeed 50i or 60i no.
But the question is whether they can be evaluated directly via HDMI signals synonymous with 1080s resolution and real 50 or 60 frames. There were but so far no standard. The older / cheaper LCD Television do not understand not even 1080/24p.



Antwort von hoffo:

I have just checked with HDMI org. On the FAQ. There are actually a specification for HDMI 1080p.
Only someone who is building a truly. I noticed there is as yet no device. Especially on the host site really is no camera, can it.



Antwort von Daigoro:

"beiti" wrote:

But the question is whether they can be evaluated directly via HDMI signals synonymous with 1080s resolution and real 50 or 60 frames.


That should be easier than i recordings to deinterlace and then with 50hz progressive display.
My laptop runs with 50hz s.HTPC over HDMI - because I'm still can not find any problems. Synonymous since I'm fairly sure that this is so, because the Windows drivers that way. All footage that I play (; 24p or 50i or whatever) is converted to the calculator.
Problems only when there's interlace / progressive mischmasch.




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