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Frage von aight8:


I understand this correctly ... The history of high-resolution Cams at Sony ...

First There Were sony cheap row (; all so about 7000 ¬), the HDV Cams, Cams as being synonymous HVR-Z7 was published in Schultervariente - the HVR-S270E. Prior to the HVR-Z7 there were only men handle the HVR-Z5 and even earlier, the HVR-Z1. The HVR-HD1000P is only a Poor Man's shoulder mounted camcorder for consumers.

In the professional segment of Sony Cams Gabs only the recordings on Professional Disc. The cheapest of the professionals was the PMW 350, the receivers on SXS. Then, most recently, the EX1 (and later the EX1R) and the EX3. And as the link between professional and cam of the semi-pro series, the SonyPMW 320 was born. These all draw on MPEG-2, because AVCHD to cut too heavy and too little is distributed in the pros.

AVCHD is hauptsätzlich at Sony's Consumer and Prosumer (; NXCAM series) represented. Said NXCAM series only one man handle, shoulder camera and small ne containing Cam. The clientele is because AVCHD format still rather small.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Aight8" wrote: ... The HDV Cams, Cams as being synonymous HVR-Z7 was published in Schultervariente - the HVR-S270E. Prior to the HVR-Z7 there were only men handle the HVR-Z5 and even earlier, the HVR-Z1. The HVR-HD1000P is only a Poor Mans Henkelmann ...
The HD1000 is a shoulder-mounted camera with the inner life of the HC7, and A1 (; offshoot of HC1) and V1 (; offshoot of the FX7), there's still synonymous, but in principle you're correct. The HVR-A1 should be the way to the longest time HDV Camera: Released in fall 2005 in the early days of HDV, it is still in range.

"Aight8" wrote: ... In the professional segment of Sony Cams Gabs only the recordings on Professional Disc ...
Before there was even HD cameras to the HDCAM series with tape recording, which still exists today synonymous.

"Aight8" wrote: ... The cheapest of the professionals was the PMW 350, the receivers on SXS ...
The PMW-350 came later. Originally, the Sony XDCAM camcorder with recording were on Professional Disc pure SD cameras, but with XDCAM HD PDW-F330 and PDW-F350, the blu-ray-like slices were then synonymous in the HD world feed. Were taken off two of the PDW-F335 and PDW-F355, later supplemented by the PDW-700 and PDW-F800. Still later, we planted the best in the EX1/3-Kameras SxS system in the large shoulder camera and brought out the PMW-350 - now flanked of PMW-320 and PMW-500.

"Aight8" wrote: ... Where the NXCAM series only one man handle, shoulder camera, and small ne containing Cam ...
Currently belongs to the compact MC1 still synonymous with remote Lens, and s.Sommer NXCAM the family gets at least three times increase.

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Antwort von aight8:

which means offshoot?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Has history not with the Sony HDV FX1 started the now legendary?

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Aight8" wrote: ... Which means offshoot? ...
On the whole, and it is the same camera, only it has more features that are important for professional use. This method practiced Sonyja with many models: VX2000 - PD150, VX2100 - PD170, FX1 - Z1, FX1000 - Z5, AX2000 - missing NX5 etc. Here the amateur generally variants such as the XLR inputs as well as many controls menu and more.

"Wolfgang" wrote: ... Does the Sony HDV story does not begin with the now legendary FX1? ...
Right. The Sony's first HDV-FX1 generation were then Z1, then HC1, then A1 - all from the year 2005.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Wolfgang" wrote: Has history not with the Sony HDV FX1 started the now legendary?
I still have the DVD in a spring 04 or 05 and visited with the SonyVX2000 (for aight8: SD-DV Henkel man) (who really knows?) Recorded road show, in which the FX1 was presented. The event was in a movie, and the demonstration on screen was, how shall I say, suboptimal. Even on the DVD, the saw teeth of the terrible field method are easy to see. We talked about it back then and we agreed that HD has to be progressive for us.

As always synonymous, because it lasted too long, one of the parties still bought the FX1 and a lot of good things made with it. At that time a huge success.

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Antwort von Jott:

The FX1 was the end of 2004 to Germany. Few knew what HDV is generally followed and how to do that somewhere, probably not synonymous, the guys in this movie.

A few months later Sonyauf roadshows had introduced the Z1. I was connected on one, there was the camera with a broken component cable (no red channel). The lords of the local video engineers ARD station were an expert before using the monitor and came to the conclusion that HDV can play any skin tones. Thus year long-life stories are created on completely useless consumer formats!

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Antwort von aight8:

But with the professional cams, where slowly each cam, any professional connection holding and only s.Aufnahmeformat (PMW 350 (SxS) <-> PDW-F800 (Prof. disc)), Chip Size (PMW 320 (1 / 2 ") <-> 350 (1/1.5")) or color sampling (PMW 350 (4:2:0) <-> PMW 500 (4:2:2)) is different. If the price is measured as only s.diesen details? (Which are, technically speaking only software modifications, partly because the hardware would support it ja)
(Okei the expensive cams like PMW-500 have then a more colorful side display. No idea what the food really brings out of power.)

Because lying to my knowledge, can not even s.der sensitivity to light, because as the new CMOS CCD cams (from 350/320er) rankommt not eh. But pointed looks, the rolling shutter a larger no-go at the high end cams.

Production companies pay so much money for the Cam, so you can save the recording medium later (Prof. disc are more portable and cheaper)?

Are many questions at once, thanks for the clarification.

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Antwort von Jott:

No, the professional users it comes to other things. Recently, someone here had once linked to this rental statistics from the UK, led to the general amazement of the good old HDCAM, Sony's first digital high-definition format from the 90s. Do I like these cameras are synonymous in this country is still a rental hit. Despite or because of tape recording?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

On 18.11.2004 we had a first report on the FX1 VT - and at that time were of the opinion that the future was there. Based on initial reports in the digital video asset.

It was interesting for me, as has been long ignored in various forums HDV. How slow the users in the first flavors s.der technology have found. And how long has it been like to have geeignte NLEs.

Maybe we should put in the light of the dramatic events in Japan, the FX1 a monument.

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Antwort von aight8:

"Aight8" wrote: But with the professional cams, where slowly each cam, any professional connection holding and only s.Aufnahmeformat (PMW 350 (SxS) <-> PDW-F800 (Prof. disc)), Chip Size (PMW 320 (1 / 2 ") <-> 350 (1/1.5")) or color sampling (PMW 350 (4:2:0) <-> PMW 500 (4:2:2)) is different. If the price is measured as only s.diesen details? (Which are, technically speaking only software modifications, partly because the hardware would support it ja)
(Okei the expensive cams like PMW-500 have then a more colorful side display. No idea what the food really brings out of power.)

Because lying to my knowledge, can not even s.der sensitivity to light, because as the new CMOS CCD cams (from 350/320er) rankommt not eh. But pointed looks, the rolling shutter a larger no-go at the high end cams.

Production companies pay so much money for the Cam, so you can save the recording medium later (Prof. disc are more portable and cheaper)?

Are many questions at once, thanks for the clarification.


So let's just based on these questions ... I would be interested namely

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Antwort von Bilderspiele:

Quote: It was interesting for me, as has been long ignored in various forums HDV.

Is indeed a scrap synonymous format. Stills for moving very pretty.
25 Mbs MPEG-2 codec is not sufficient for tracking shots. I think that everyone here knows. If the result is to be released on DVD and then perhaps the sharpness function of the camera was turned on, there are long faces and artifacts shines in everything. HDV is a niche format for specific shooting situations. Just like the filming with cameras: D

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Antwort von Jott:

Scrap this format is the most successful, best-selling digital high-definition format in the professional sector. Sure, there are now better for a few thousand dollars than seven years ago - but HDV synonymous lives on in current devices, even the F3 you can switch to HDV if you want. And I do not think that it is the loudest scrap Schreier ever notice an average eingemogelte F3-HDV recording would, if they can not actively seek it. Maybe not even then.

In general format are s.sich never really "junk", just in front of the camera heads are essential. I remember always happy to DV: Consumercams of cheapest to outrageously expensive broadcast Ikegami gave it everything - huge differences, but always the same codec. I predict synonymous times that the upcoming Sony XDCAM with the sensor will provide the F3 recordings one the AVCHD codec would never have expected - because he is normally more potters in scrap cameras.

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Antwort von domain:

"Wolfgang" wrote:
Maybe we should put in the light of the dramatic events in Japan, the FX1 a monument.

This spiritual connection I do not know but my FX-1 already exists as an epoch-making and highlighted monument eo ipso in my museum display case.
I take s.Wolfgang, you hold your FX-1 still synonymous ;-)
Hats they like your eyeball, it is already a collector's item.

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Antwort von Belize:

Already had a good year before the FX1-Introduction incidentally pushed with the JVC JY-HD10 HDV the door to the market.

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Antwort von domain:

Yes true
I have almost forgotten and if I remember correctly, had specifically Wolfgang already busy in his forum.

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Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:

Quote: Prior to the HVR-Z7 there were only men handle the HVR-Z5 and even earlier, the HVR-Z1.
The Z5 was only long after the Z7!

Greetings
KDS

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