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Frage von DezorianGuy:


Hi!
I heard you should Video8 movies via DV Avi (720x576) to play on.

How do I do it with Magix Video Deluxe 2008?
Here, the camera is connected via composite.
Possibilities are and MXV mpeg (dvd, vcd, Custom.).
S.besten What do I choose from?
Then it encodes the file into mpeg4 or x264?

Then there is the case that I only get mono.
Have at times tried cleaning audio stereo at what to potter, and got through push of controllers then somehow NEN stereo sound out. Or are there better ways?

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"DezorianGuy" wrote:
I heard you should Video8 movies via DV Avi (720x576) to play on.


That would be the optimum, DV-AVI has a 5:1 compression of a relatively low compression strength.

"DezorianGuy" wrote:
How do I do it with Magix Video Deluxe 2008?
Here, the camera is connected via composite.
S.besten What do I choose from?


About Composite (ie, an analog connector) you get any if no DV-AVI. Sure, you only MPEG format can choose ... If you want absolutely the MPEG-2 format will remain, then you choose in MAGIX s.Besten "MPEG Custom" and choose the encoder quality as high as possible (in my case 15) and the synonymous rate as high as possible without being called "Drop outs "are. (It depends of the speed of your CPU, the CPU is used in this workflow are highly stretched, as if you transfer via FireWire (DV - Digital Video) and the program has nothing to convert)

"DezorianGuy" wrote: Then it encodes the file into mpeg4 or x264?

Who said that? Where is it? What is it good?
The format depends a lot on WHAT you do with the material want. If you want it to burn a DVD that you can with each s.Television want to look at, the target format is MPEG-2, because the requirement is for DVDs. Since you so when recording in the MPEG-2 format did (because composite connection), it must logically no longer encoded Tow, because MPEG-2 MPEG-2 =. Consequently, when you hit MAGIX on "Burn" and the program makes you the DVD, get ready.

Do you want but no DVD, but the material on your computer and hold it there s.and to watch, or perhaps on the Internet by far to send mail, it is advisable to ensure the best possible quality while still possible to have smaller file size. (Normally: the better the quality, the greater the File). THAT would be the MPEG-4 x264 format useful because x264 MPEG-4 is known as small files with almost no visible loss of quality to produce. I was the format, however, not so much convinced ...

As I said above, it would be the best possible as far as possible without loss of digitizer (no MPEG-2 format, but DV-AVI) and only later to decide in what format should be encoded. But not at the point of digitization (strong) compress. DV-AVI you get out but only if you are using FireWire cable transmission (synonymous as a DV cable is known). Your Video8 camera, since they have an analog camera is, of course, no digital output, thus must be an intermediate device, the signal from the analog Video8 camera recording, and then digitized via FireWire cable digital s.den PC forward where you want it as Digital Video (DV) in MAGIX can absorb.

This intermediate device, a digital camera with analog input be (but is difficult to obtain because of customs regulations here in D), or a so-called analog-digital converters (for example, of Canopus).
From the old familiar "capture or grabber-Cheap Tickets", often with the slogan "Save your analog media" for 20 ¬ will be offered is definitely discouraged. Of course this is all a question of quality that you would like to achieve.

Here you can look at the Canopus analog-digital converter and to see if a week (s) to borrow or buy the same.

http://digitalschnitt.de/produkte/zubehoer/index.htm

"DezorianGuy" wrote:
Then there is the case that I only get mono.


If you are in the format as described above, to user-specific button, car stereo with 48000 sample rate and selectable Kbit / s selected. Do not know where you do your Mono & financial searched.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

I thank you for this detailed reply:)
Sorry for the inconvenience, but have now realized that I need a converter to avi dv ever to get.
I will immediately start times and some shops FOLDING.

Let's say that I have the dv-avi video did. X264 you have not quite convincing. What you take personally encodings (which bitrate whether single pass, double pass, etc)?
Wants me to some ideas and opinions collected here in the forum:)
I generally only make videos to help me s.HD LCD screen to view. No movie DVDs. So, just for archiving.

PS: After I (via analog composite) the video files as MXV rüberzog, I can not be considered an x264 encode. x261 / 3 though.
Why is that? I can never find this codec. X264 but actually installed: \ So I can decode these videos ... but not encode.

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

Basically:

Encoder and decoder are different things. The decoder you need to play, to create the encoder.

Decoders are often free or inexpensive to acquire, as the provider of video material so wish that you can view their products. For the self-production (synonymous Umkonvertieren) necessary decoder must be expensive but then (r) to buy. Wants something from the Manufacturer of encoders and de-ja finally live .... ;-)

As has already written JMS: Will you with the material still actively working (cutting, etc.), so would the conversion by AD-hiking to DV-AVI the best results. The memory requirement is 13 GB / hour.

Will you just look s.Screen and make DVDs to hire, then MPEG-2 would be OK. Space depending on the compression and quality 2-4 GB / hour. The whole thing you can surely with your Aursüstung already do.

With the x264, I have no experience.

Regardless of which format you choose, it remains old analog material in the Resolution720 x 576 pixels and with no tool is on a HD LCD Palel for super sharp movie enjoyment.

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"DezorianGuy" wrote:
I will immediately start times and some shops FOLDING.


I do not think that using such converters in the normal electrical market can get. The only way that I know is on www.digitalschnitt.de (see my previous link).

"DezorianGuy" wrote: Let's say that I have the dv-avi video did. X264 you have not quite convincing. What you take personally encodings (which bitrate whether single pass, double pass, etc)?

I have you actually been in the other post answered:

http://forum.slashcam.de/encoder-fur-video8-videos-hd-vp340051.html?sid=2479f55249dde6ff96997431de150fa6#340051

Again:
In what format I encode depends on WHAT I do with the material wants. For DVD creation, the DV-AVI to MPEG-2 converted. I will leave with the Adobe EncoreDVD, since this encoder is very good. The encoder of Magix is synonymous but not bad (MainConcept encoder).
If I get my material on your PC and want to keep, I sometimes alongside synonymous WMA WMV and MPEG-4. This I leave with Premiere transform (Magix can only opt into the MPEG-4 format convert).

"DezorianGuy" wrote: I generally only make videos to help me s.HD LCD screen to view.

Your HD-LCD is a TV or a PC screen? If there is a TV and the movies look like there, then you have to, either on DVD (SD) or BlueRay (HD) burn (that would be a VideoDVD) in order to view them there. Or you conclude about your PC graphics card via video - Out of s.Television? Of this, I advise the same times as synonymous ...

"DezorianGuy" wrote: So, just for archiving.

What now? Would you like your films now on DVD or BlueRay off to them s.TV to consider long term or just to hard to be archived?

For an archive (most external hard disks) I would suggest you the material is not to encode (for example, MPEG-4, synonymous if the file size smaller), but to leave, as the PC comes clean: DV-AVI. Then you can leave it in the distant future at any time to re-edit or tapes / tapes off and do not need to worry, format incompatibilities to get ...

"DezorianGuy" wrote: PS: After I (via analog composite) the video files as MXV rüberzog, I can not be considered an x264 encode. x261 / 3 though.

Again: Look at the other contribution, then I have already explained everything else.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

Reluctantly holding my edited video on a hard drive (over a long period rene). So, somehow, every film on DVD, ie DVD 9GB size.
My 42 "LCD Full HD screen is via HDMI on my Geforce 8800 GT connected and brings a brilliant picture. So, I have the slightest problem.;)
I have problems as so often with the technical events of video production. :

The Movie Rip scene makes sowas zb:

RESOLUTION ...... 1920x800
RUNTIME ......... 01h: 42m: 02s
FRAME RATE ....... 23.976 fps
CODEC ........... x264 @ 8360kbps
LANGUAGE ........ English DD 5.1, 640kbps
SIZE ............ 6.4GB

%ˆ %ˆ RUNTIME .......: 135min
SIZE ..........: %ˆ %ˆ 4:36 GB
%ˆ ViDEO.CODEC ...: x264 %ˆ
FRAME RATE .....: %ˆ %ˆ 23.98
%ˆ Bitrate .......: 4252 kbps %ˆ
RESOLUTION ....: 1280x720 %ˆ %ˆ
%ˆ AUDIO .........: English AC3 5.1 384kbps %ˆ
%ˆ SOURCE ........: 1080i

Here you can see how "professionals" do it totally crisp videos to encode, which is not synonymous prove equal to 12 GB, with "only" 4000-8000 kbps.
All this with the x264 codec.

That would have to be so synonymous with the SD movies of my work.
What do you this? How does that work, that the original encoded videos on BluRay nothing to stand? Why does not everyone here is so? When I show my films 12-30 GB per movie (not encoded).

PS: What do you do with the converter in order when I get them for is it?
I Put video + audio cables as previously synonymous in the device, the turn of a Firewire cable s.den PC going?
Basically worth by the transmission converter also. What is better? So far, the picture seemed synonymous via Composite quite well. But as I said was not the DV version: O

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Antwort von WeiZen:

Obtain you a Digital8 eBay analog tapes Video8/HI8 plays. Do not all, eg SonyTRV 120E. The TBC has a synonymous for the optional Connect.
Is captured via firewire, and you're done.
Easily the best result.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

This of you called sony model is not on ebay. Is there a way to identify which camera dubbing of analog Video 8 cassettes allows? Or can the general all Digital8 camcorder?

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Antwort von thos-berlin:

It makes no sense to SD material, which with a Auflöung (resolution) score of 720x576 and 25 frames interlaced was created in a different Resolutionhochzurechnen.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: ... Is there a way to identify which camera dubbing of analog Video 8 cassettes allows? Or can the general all Digital8 camcorder? ...
As Ulrich has written, can not do all, and a possibility that with a name to identify additional, there is not. But just try the search function: A list with all Video8/Hi8-fähigen D8 camcorders was ever posted here.

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"Wheat" wrote: Obtain you a Digital8 eBay analog tapes Video8/HI8 plays. The TBC has a synonymous for the optional Connect.
Is captured via firewire, and you're done.


Exactly, that would be to the (expensive) converter super alternative! If I do not haggard. Only the optimization of the ADVC-300 content is given away. Synonymous, it is difficult, to find a model that even with Video8 and Hi8 can handle, it probably will not synonymous virgin anymore, that is, make sure that the recorders are not to be worn ...

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

Wait a minute, I understand now more garnicht ... well, almost.
I am me a camera for 150 euros to get to me once my cassettes to play (need the cam then no more), for 39 euros instead of me the said AD converter canopos borrow?

Are there differences in quality of the transfer?
How can I hear the quality of an older Cam fluctuate.
The converter, however, guarantee good quality, although composite is in play (at camüberspielung yes firewire)?
How can I imagine?

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

Well, a Digital8 Cam integrated with TB, which is capable Hi8 and Video8 to play, would be an alternative if you do not buy the converter / want to borrow. In some ways replaced the Cam external Canopus A / D converter, since the digitized analog material itself and can output via FireWire.

However, you have the ADVC-300 better quality chances due to the many separate recruitment and optimization opportunities. Moreover, for all of the Canopus converters developed "Canopus DV codecs" are used. Do not know how well the conversion system such Digital8 cams, but the Canopus DV codec makes great results with my digitization.

Let's just say this: The use of an ADVC-300 (in this case) is certainly high, as the use of a Digital8 Cam, for the use of expensive but are synonymous with the Canopus products.

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Antwort von DezorianGuy:

39 euros will cost borrowing a Canopus converter. Is it in or odrnung?

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"DezorianGuy" wrote: 39 euros will cost borrowing a Canopus converter. Is it in or odrnung?

Yes, I think that's OK ...

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