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Frage von Die Talla:


Hello Together,

I ask again would need your help.

Since I am now with my parents, I'll take off my PC at my parents for Christmas, I should get a new PC, up to 1500 euros.

I want to edit HDV footage with the PC with the programs and Canopus Edius with Pinnacle Studio 14th

My questions is the following, the system is so recommend, or should I replace individual components if so which ones?
Or is the PC recommended?


Item Information ATELCO 4gamez! Intel Core i7-860
http://www2.atelco.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29235&agid=614

I am grateful for every tip, synonymous for links to other suppliers if there is something better there.
I do not have the experience to build my own PC is a section together.

Thank you!

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Antwort von Rolf Hankel:

"The Talla" wrote: Hello Together,

I ask again would need your help.

Since I am now with my parents, I'll take off my PC at my parents for Christmas, I should get a new PC, up to 1500 euros.

I want to edit HDV footage with the PC with the programs and Canopus Edius with Pinnacle Studio 14th

My questions is the following, the system is so recommend, or should I replace individual components if so which ones?
Or is the PC recommended?


Item Information ATELCO 4gamez! Intel Core i7-860
http://www2.atelco.de/articledetail.jsp?aid=29235&agid=614

I am grateful for every tip, synonymous for links to other suppliers if there is something better there.
I do not have the experience to build my own PC is a section together.

Thank you!


Hello

Schau mal da rein: http://ankermann-pc.shops4ecommerce.de/shop/

Gruss Rolf ...

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Antwort von Die Talla:

Thanks for the link Rolf, but the finished PC are to be offered there, I do not think as good as of Atelco.
Certainly if one gets used the configurator and then one surely knows a better PC than the one of Atelco!
But I do not know myself unfortunately.

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

Hi Rolf!

Good that you have quoted the entire message of the long-Talla, for your Zweizeilenantwort! Otherwise nobody would have really discovered that you had to say directly about your own response to what Related news!

To quote the citation's sake?

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"The Talla" wrote: Thanks for the link Rolf, but the finished PC are to be offered there, I do not think as good as of Atelco.
Certainly if one gets used the configurator and then one surely knows a better PC than the one of Atelco!
But I do not know myself unfortunately.


The configurator's are synonymous with the wuerd Atelco and I need to use synonymous.
The gaming part is already Not bad, but certainly not ideal in some score.
The "gaming" graphics card is not really a gaming graphics card (too slow - s.5850! Or GTX275) So as a cross. Because I would take either ne ne better or smaller, passively cooled (eg. the GT250).
Anyway, I would rather resort to NVidia and NVidia do not because I am a fanboy, but because the cards are simply better drivers (ie not as a super-technique Anweder interested who wants to constantly looking for the latest Omega Drivers aus'm network, we can at NVidia usually take 'safe' is the standard driver and has) virtually always provement.

The housing is good - but is a bit cheaper without synonymous great.
The motherboard can take - especially if it has FireWire on board.
I would not 'green' hard drive as a system / program using plate - perhaps even take ne second 320s F3 in favor. For the media files are but good.
8GB RAM are actually ok (64-bit operating system but you need to use too!), But I would rather synonymous cheaper to take what (G. Skill or A-Data).
The 700Watt power supply is total overkill - a 500W should be perfectly sufficient (emergency BeQuiet Straight Power.
In addition, there nen clever CPU cooler, not the boxed version (Scythe).
graphics card as I said - if you want to play anything bigger, only for the DV editing synonymous ranges ne ne GT250er or 9600GT (s.besten passive).

If you take the good stuff from the configuration and the few little things change (depending on the stop), get a calculator that better fits your expectations and the not so fast somewhere is too small.

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Antwort von mannamanna:

Hmmm, would be quick nen ne current PC (Intel) SSD for OS and Programs, the entirely appropriate for the acceleration of most operations? Wanted synonymous configure in hardware costs (= Atelco) nen PC, but since keien SSDs are offered ...?

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Antwort von Rasmus:

Still a little respect for ASUS MB:
Here's to the firewire port installed a VIA chipset, which can make for video editing problems. (Did I just: (). In which case you should install a firewire card with Texas Instruments (TI) Cipsatz, or take a calculator with the appropriate chipset.

Greeting

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"manna manna" wrote: Hmmm, would be quick nen ne current PC (Intel) SSD for OS and Programs, the entirely appropriate for the acceleration of most operations? Wanted synonymous configure in hardware costs (= Atelco) nen PC, but since keien SSDs are offered ...?

The good (yes, Intel) are still far too expensive. The inexpensive still too streaky (perhaps as low / power-saving alternative of interest in netbooks, but do not) because of the performance.
And identify themselves as being still not long enough to seriously s.Markt established long-term reliability in Comparison to disk plates.
Really I could durchringen to me yet. Also, because not turn out the real performance reports so dramatic.

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Antwort von Die Talla:

Thanks for serving Daigoro detailed answer!

Quote: Rasmus
Still a little respect for ASUS MB:
Here's to the firewire port installed a VIA chipset, which can make for video editing problems. (Did I just: (). In which case you should install a firewire card with Texas Instruments (TI) Cipsatz, or take a calculator with the appropriate chipset.


Now I'm really confused on what we all must respect?
I think I get it out before.


I have here a Calculator is found to possibly be better?

MEDION AKOYA X7302 D

Intel Core !" i7-860 processor,
Original Windows 7
Home Premium, 6144 MB DDR3 SDRAM;
Nvidia GeForce GT230,
2x 1 TB SATA II hard drive,
DVD Burner

http://www.medion.com/de/electronics/prod/MEDION AKOYA +% C2% AE% C2% AE + X7302 + D/10013233A1? category = gamer_pc_13


at the link below Calculator are allegedly more suited for video editing are the first two I have included Pro CS4.

http://www.medion.com/de/electronics/cat/Professional-PC/professional_pc_12

Because the computers I mean is the lowest.
What is or is one of the other better?
The i7 860 will be synonymous better for video editing than the i7 920, I had read.

THANK YOU for your understanding and tolerated!

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Pack the stuff of the top of the Atelco configurator and you'll have a much better system than ever Medion zustandebringt.
Which is often times s.Ecken saved, which the user does not immediately notice that (cheap boards, slow auslaufmodell hard disks, etc.).

In addition, there's at Atelco synonymous configurator-built PCs for the same safeguards (5 years?), As in manufacturing - and you can pay for things that make sense and you need.

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Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:

Whether the i7 860 is more suitable for DV editing than the i7 920, I do not know, but cuts in the i7 860 Benchmarks usually as good as the 920 down, but is generally a little cheaper, and above all the motherboards for the 860 is only half the expensive.
I am here synonymous build my new nen VideoschnittPC, but got only a max. about half as much money ^ ^

I7 processors and motherboards 920s when it comes to problems against an increasingly synonymous i7 860 (eg failure of the third RAM) memory in triple bolt Channel Mode.
I7 920 is the new Intel architecture, which Intel has made a few mistakes that AMD s.Anfang already made in the same innovations.
The i7 800s are a bit more mature.

Even the lower reaches of her entirely from the specifications for DV editing.
Especially since you cut HDV (and do not want to run AVCHD editing), each likely will do the quad core CPU, then you might be synonymous Atlohn take an AMD X4 620s System for $ 500.

Rein leistungstechnisch all of your systems presented more than enough for HDV editing.
Leistungstechnisch price of the i7 860 will be the best choice. In addition to 2 hard disks, one for the operating system and programs and the other for video files.
The firewire problem, I can not say much because I've never had, but since the variant would be:
Get motherboard with Firewire, then if there are problems, one can (to retrofit ne Firewire card so the motherboard still enough free slots to eighth).

graphics card is still so ne thing.
You should be able to raise at least two displays, but graphics acceleration with CS4 is still meager.
Now the gamer in me says: Even the presently NVIDIA graphics cards are not really zukünftsfähig because they are all still directx 10.1 card and get out of this synonymous until next year, it is worth these days do not spend much money for an NVIDIA card, so either take an expensive new Directx 11 AMD card (Radeon 5000 series), but this may result in some DV editing, up to the 3d animation program repeatedly to errors and crashes, but brings the most power for games, or ne cheap NVIDIA ne GT 220 upwards and then later upgrade.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Gabriel_Natas" wrote: Even the presently NVIDIA graphics cards are not really zukünftsfähig because they are all still directx 10.1 card and get out of this synonymous until next year, it is worth these days do not spend much money for an NVIDIA card, so either a new expensive Directx 11 AMD card (Radeon 5000 series to take)

Thou canst be pretty sure that no current graphics card "is sustainable".
The presently DX11 cards are DX11 games, so once they come on the market, at the most stripped down in an extremely general to bring the umbrella.
(or DX11 brings so little new that it is anyway no preference whether you's employment or not).

Cheap, spielefaehige Map: GTX260
(There's already s.ca. 130 Ocken and sufficient for current games in full, because se has already many features of the bigger cards that are performance-- wide memory bus, 'enough' shader, etc.)

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Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:

"Daigoro" wrote: "Gabriel_Natas" wrote: Even the presently NVIDIA graphics cards are not really zukünftsfähig because they are all still directx 10.1 card and get out of this synonymous until next year, it is worth these days do not spend much money for an NVIDIA card, so either a new expensive Directx 11 AMD card (Radeon 5000 series to take)

Thou canst be pretty sure that no current graphics card "is sustainable".
The presently DX11 cards are DX11 games, so once they come on the market, at the most stripped down in an extremely general to bring the umbrella.
(or DX11 brings so little new that it is anyway no preference whether you's employment or not).


graphics cards are s.sich nor Worse than anything else with your PC, always out of date anyway after the purchase;)
But the Radeon HD 5970 or the synonymous Or 5800er models are the best thing you can get s.Spieleleistung currently on the market, and synonymous nor in the next few years can make all the playable games.
But the question is wait, if he really so much money for ne graphics card wants to spend, if he really just wants to DV editing.
Then goes synonymous ne 50 euro card.

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Antwort von Die Talla:

Now I'm more insecure as before: 0 (
Just another PC has added:

ATELCO 4gamez! Intel Core i7-920
http://www1.atelco.de/articledetail.jsp?adp=0&aid=27298&agid=614&apop=0

Quote: But the question is wait, if he really so much money for ne graphics card wants to spend, if he really just wants to DV editing.
Then goes synonymous ne 50 euro card.

@ Gabriel
He is but does nothing ..... : o)
Do not be the top graphics card if I want to work with two monitors?

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Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:

Quote: @ Gabriel
He is but does nothing ..... : o)
Do not be the top graphics card if I want to work with two monitors?


Oops, skipped:) Sorry.

It depends as always on the monitors on ^ ^.
Among the 50 euro models, one always has multiple connections, most recently, a DVI port and an HDMI port, even vll still a VGA port.
Drive up to two monitors with Full HD, is it not much more power. There are synonymous Cards with two DVI connectors, since then I think we can raise even both monitors with resolutions of Full HD.
Use 2 monitors has long been no more art in the graphics card segment. They hold the monitors need to:).

The last Atelco has neither firewire, nor a second hard drive.


Edit says:
So the Radeon HD 4650 gibts with 2 DVI ports, since you can connect without any Probs 2 monitors, I have seen in NVIDIA's all the same price range with only 1 DVI and 1 HDMI port. Then go two screens, when one of them synonymous nen has HDMI input.

From 80 euro gibts then synonymous with NVIDIA 2 DVI outputs.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Gabriel_Natas" wrote:
Edit says:
So the Radeon HD 4650 gibts with 2 DVI ports, since you can connect without any Probs 2 monitors, I have seen in NVIDIA's all the same price range with only 1 DVI and 1 HDMI port. Then go two screens, when one of them synonymous nen has HDMI input.

From 80 euro gibts then synonymous with NVIDIA 2 DVI outputs.


The small NVidia cards, there's synonymous with dual DVI.
http://www.amazon.de/Zotac-GeForce-graphics card-PCI-E TV-Out / dp/B001E43T86

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Antwort von Gabriel_Natas:

"Daigoro" wrote: "Gabriel_Natas" wrote:
Edit says:
So the Radeon HD 4650 gibts with 2 DVI ports, since you can connect without any Probs 2 monitors, I have seen in NVIDIA's all the same price range with only 1 DVI and 1 HDMI port. Then go two screens, when one of them synonymous nen has HDMI input.

From 80 euro gibts then synonymous with NVIDIA 2 DVI outputs.


The small NVidia cards, there's synonymous with dual DVI.
http://www.amazon.de/Zotac-GeForce-graphics card-PCI-E TV-Out / dp/B001E43T86


Nagut at Amazon I have not checked, but in alternate ^ ^ there gabs keine.
But basically gabs in 2006 graphics cards with two DVI ports for under $ 100.
So it is concluded: For DV editing reicht erstmal a 50 euro Graphic card, no preference which provider as long as you observe the connections. (2x DVI or at least 1x DVI and 1x HDMI, or if you still ne Tube Hat) VGA port.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Gabriel_Natas" wrote:
So it is concluded: For DV editing reicht erstmal a 50 euro Graphic card, no preference which provider as long as you observe the connections. (2x DVI or at least 1x DVI and 1x HDMI, or if you still ne Tube Hat) VGA port.


Is now more and more synonymous TV / Monitor "hybrids" that can offer the complete range s.Anschluessen and 1080s while still in Liquiditations Schreibtischvertraeglichen (22-24 ") dimensions.
If you ne Zweischirm solution-seeking can indeed synonymous for it on hold.

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