Frage von vspec2:
Hi Folks
I stand before the agony of choice
I could make up my mind between 2 cams either the JVC GR-DZ7E or SonyDCR-HC42E
For me as a non-professional or lay person, the decision is really difficult, so I thought I Poste time here as there are many professionals and experience has been synonymous with devices for
Sorry for the stupid question
What should I take? Which is the better cam? (desperately ask)
Antwort von Jan:
Hello vspec2,
the two devices are much on one level's see test
JVC GR DZ 7
SonyDCR HC 42 When the rash Sonykönnte be the name (there are many satisfied Mini DV or 8mm Sony Owner)
When JVC perhaps + the headphone jack (For HC 42 free), or the microphone input (In Sonynur on Sony Micro Accessory shoe on possible)
And of course, a choice of shutter speed.
LG
January
Antwort von vspec2:
hy
oi Many Thanks Jan
Then the JVC will probably be the better choice? The hat nen 1 / 3, 6, the sony ccd a 1 / 5, 0 ccd
me is when they worked Sonyaufgefallen hatt indoors bildrauschen very strong, especially in the color blue, I noticed a strong noise and the color very bright
It may be that it is a true s.gerät errors or dcr 42 is generally very steep with less light?
LG and many thanks!
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
I do not think the JVC is better in low light. In Videoaktivdigital gabs with the only satisfactory HC 42 (You're right, what a difficult and dangerous Sonynicht good thing) Good irgenwie's yes you have to compare if a hervoragend VX 2100 or get well, can not get a 600 ¬ synonymous Cam very well. A JVC in the price range but gets seldom satisfactory, mostly adequate or inadequate.
The one or other of the menu is adjusted known (eg manual white balance)
I have the 7 double dagehabt never about me, then they can not express right.
Good color with the Nightshot Pros program 0 LUX Program at the HC 42 is not even first class, formerly Nightshot was only 5m infrared light and no color.
When Night Scope of JVC, the camera takes forever, but, no idea what kind of shutter speed it sets. Since going free hand with almost nothing.
But if it's have you tested it then JVC DR 7th ..
LG
January
Antwort von vspec2:
hy January
even a VX 2100, I'd like to synonymous * ggg * But since I have been saving for it yet ne unfortunately :-(
I now hah times the JVC taken, I hope it does not handle the truth down the toilet.
From the impression it produces is quite ok
in low light, the colors are a bit pale, but hardly a bildrauschen noted in lowlight mode, the AGC Gain up is no noise present.
Night Scope is true only for absolute recordings was otherwise good for nothing.
The housing is made partly of metal is very high quality and fits comfortably in your hand.
The image stabilization is better than my previous 3 CCD Panasonic NV GS 140
The record button can be 1 cm next to bottom Curr perfect.
Zomm is very finely controlled.
The Micro is very sensitive and even the seemingly quiet sound is to listen when a slight breeze will be blowing WindCut s.sonst to hear the same after nem Viktor.
From here, they might picture is very sharp on my 117cm TV, the picture looks very clean and sharp colors aus.Die be a little stronger but I'm spoiled of my previous Panasonic 3ccd I think ;-)
The photo function is great, the pictures are very good and up to 1600x1200 with Resolutionzu, the included 8mb SD card is too small for multiple images to be Resolutiongemacht in this one.
The clip is very useful synonymous Navi function, each recorded clip on tape is stored separately in Navimenu as a thumb in the Play mode and can thus, by simple picture kuken just find certain scenes and rewinds the tape by pressing a key then s.genau this place, right in practice, I think.
negative is the battery supplied with only 800mah
after about 45 min operation is concluded, the Charging takes about 1 hour
The key pad under the folding screen is a bit strange
s.Anfang is a little difficult but after some paint and press easier.
So I am actually quite happy with it
I hope that the little post is a little helpful if those who are interrested for JVC
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
is indeed interesting times right what you write. For me, JVC has made a giant leap Forwards on the newer models eg beginners Gr D 270 to HDV Cam's HD 100 / 101. With the small battery that is already weak in the price range for most gibts ja 1400 mAh Battery.
Sonyläuft at the moment Videocam massively against a wall. I order today as a company a few models, you get 2-3 months later, very bad HC 90, DVD 403rd
Annual agreements also holds a Sonynicht where a predetermined amount of time will be delivered, which will come but 1 month later. Small delivery problems may already be again, but this? In the near future will shift the balance between Sony-Panasonic-Canon-JVC.
That company is s.meiner I can not believe we are Europe's top-selling chain (household electronics) with operations in Poland, Hungary, Greece, Italy or France, eg.
We'll see what happens
January
Antwort von vspec2:
ui that sounds good but not at s.with for deliveries :-( (
I may times over by the flower chain, ask what it is? happens to be the start with M??
Yes that's kind of a shame with the battery but not so bad to additional batteries will not be around anyway, and I think the times are not so expensive if there are no original parts are :-)
Antwort von LuFaHa:
Nope ...
But everyone knows * (also in the profile of Jan stehts)!
He works at Saturn, where you are in a sense, of course, right. Because Saturn and Media Markt are part of the same major company or chain, or (so Jan can explain this better).
*) Please forgive me this Veralgemeinerung inaccurate.
Antwort von vspec2:
hehe * gg *
If I had better save the profile and then I'd just read through the stupid question I can * gg *
not to mention Cosmos in Austria as one synonymous yet to do so;)
'm AT'ler
Jan can you then Cams synonymous test in your spare time?
Antwort von Jan:
Hello you,
yes it is said at headquarters do not like, but we belong together to the Metro Group. We even have the same product numbers (SonyHC 90 eg 1930541) and the same ERP system, or equal to eg e-mail addresses name. Saturn.com media.
I test s.and to the models that often lately SonyHC 1 with all sorts of video projectors and plasma or LCD televisions. Unfortunately, I am allowed into a smaller Saturn in Munich and high-order models do not (except a customer pays in full). FX 1, I had only briefly s.Anfang there. XL 2 or similar class is only in the large, such as Hamburg, Berlin, Alex, Cologne, Munich Theresienwiese etc. there.
LG
January
Antwort von vspec2:
cool
But I find it truly test the models, the synonymous likely to have her there.
I engaged in a long time to load true synonymous in so nem similar but we did not test the matters or even in our Lunch hour and then synonymous only in the shop inside
So here you get with us because in the neighboring towns are no longer than small models such as the SonyDCR-PC1000E or Panasonic nv-gs 250th I've only once seen there in the VX2100 one Glasvitriene as synonymous and only 1 day long, and the truth determined already ordered and paid for.
Too bad the staff is here synonymous almost no Interresse s.denn products themselves hatt when parr is a question relating to the intensity of the Lenses and Focal or how big the CCDs are already over ists with the knowledge or advice because you will reap only a shrug, and yes that is definitely better here, but in the price range are all pretty much the same well
hehe that's what I call ne Consultancy * gggg *
s.besten kuken himself and then say here, I'll take
you have something like product training in the art or Jan? Our people here do not have, unfortunately, sowas
Antwort von Jan:
Hello,
proper training are rare, usually 2x a year gibts ne Road Show of the Big firms, where there are experts.
You have to stop the device but a closer look, read magazines, or just chat with customers.
One or the other "old fox" is usually a tip at hand. I have many pensioners have ever shooting settings, like former super-8th .
Good VX 2100 I would be synonymous to test again, but the internet price is so low that I would never sell the camera if I order now.
That there are some "blind" at Media Markt and Saturn, I can not deny.
Lg
January
Antwort von Markus:
You have to stop the device but a closer look, read magazines, or just chat with customers. As shown usschnell whether the individual salesperson synonymous interested in "his" products! - So, Jan, with you I would buy a clear conscience camcorder. ;-)
Antwort von vspec2:
I joa synonymous!
I have opinions and expertise for extra pay for web jedenfal worth, Besides, I hate buying in because if I am not satisfied gibts nur problems with exchange service, etc., etc.
that's why I buy almost all items dear to the trade
I am from AT damaged or I'd come in January when you can go there and certainly by me ner gscheit CAM * ggg *
LG
Antwort von Jan:
Thank you, I bow before you.
Praise für'n Media Markt and Saturn employees gibts so rare in the network.
Mark you've had a pretty good Eqipment (you how to write .. that word?)
The JVC GR d 7 I have indeed not there, I hold only 25 seats to be filled, and there are so many good cameras
I'm learning so synonymous with you in the forum to something, we can show just about every good salesman gaps ...
LG
January
Antwort von jens:
(You how to write .. that word?) With a U after the Q.
Yes. Also I would buy from you. Runtergehen Jan, my "Saturn's Employee of the Year" ;-) (but how should the oil .... But rightly!)
Greetings s.alle, Jens
