Logo Logo
/// 
Pegel bei Sound Device - Sony DSR 450

Level at Sound Device - SonyDSR 450



Frage von Couper:
April 2009

Moin,

have a fairly urgent issue. And although I have a DSR 450 (DVCAM) and a sound device 422nd White is not quite sure how I should be because levels. pegelton of 422 aud is 0db and Camera, I have synonymous-9dB gepegelt. Is this so? and must I still on the s.422-9dB levels? So overall I'm at -18.

Over a quick answer I would be delighted. Thank you!



Antwort von robbie:

what what what what?

I do not understand what you mean.

explaining something you want to do at all.

the sound device 422 seems quite an eb-mixer to be. he had a generator installed khz? if so:

khz tone at 0dB output bring s.der 450 to go around -6. This is the standard level for most broadcasters. s.422 then you will have 6db more headroom, and can there still has to -2 - 0 levels ...



Antwort von mon3:

"robbie" wrote:
...

khz tone at 0dB output bring s.der 450 to go around -6. This is the standard level for most broadcasters. s.422 then you will have 6db more headroom, and can there still has to -2 - 0 levels ...


-6 DB level as a standard? where?
With this setting you are going with some certainty into the ton-nirvana.
that was a possibility of analogy, like. BetaSP, but a DSR450 DVCAM is a mill.

@ couper: pegelton to minus 18 s.der kamera levels, then the peak at approximately -9 and you're on the safe side.








Antwort von tommyb:

"mon3" wrote:
pegelton to minus 18 s.der kamera levels, then the peak at approximately -9 and you're on the safe side.


-18? Waaaas? Neeeein ...


If a mixer Pegelton rausgibt of-9dB is located, then you have in an analog camera (such as Betacam SP) also bring on-9dB.

With a digital camera has a so-called "headroom", because in the digital world, in contrast to the analog world is not about 0dB level can go without clipping.

The headroom is usually. 9dB. Pegelt So with a digital camera like the 450er it is, then you have of the real-9dB of the reference level (which was mixer out there) this 9dB headroom and subtract the level s.der Camera according to settle-18dB.

If the mixer at a level 0dB uses, then you have the Camera at-9dB levels.

Is the mixer at a level 14dB-out, then s.der Camera 9dB less gepegelt, so-23dB.

That is a blanket statement like "levels at -18" away simply is not correct, if you do not know what the thread creator ahead of it.



Antwort von mon3:

that with the -18 will give you almost any say so in eb is underway.
theoretically correct your statement with the -9, since you practically run regularly but perilous cliffs to the ton.



Antwort von WideScreen:

So, now Couper has 3 different answers. That will certainly help him :-))

Will you Tor 1, Tor2 or perhaps Tor3? .... Whether it really is, you'll see when the light .... 1st .... 2 or 3, you must decide yourself, three fields are free .....



Antwort von WideScreen:

-18dB we provide a. -9 Was rather brings analogue and digital at regular clipping.

At the end, we make the test, which we ne speech sample and then make good auspegel and look s.der Camera, which is overridden nix. So as a test system.
Limiter s.Mischer we have, so if someone eg ne cup on the table knallt nothing happens. It takes so normally not occur.



Antwort von mon3:

"WideScreen" wrote:
-18dB we provide a. -9 Was rather brings analogue and digital at regular clipping.


sag ich doch ;-)

at -9 can ever mentally and morally to recruit a well-kept anschiss



Antwort von tommyb:

Dear People ... I can in this case only one media designer training heartily.

Analog cameras can be a certain number of dB above 0dB tolerated, without the sound of tears.

The digital cameras can not. Everything arrives at 0dB, with digital cameras is 100% volume.

If, therefore, without a limiter in the camera or in the mixer is working, then you can level from the purely analog mixers go over 0dB on a digital camera if you can manage 1:1 pegelt (ie 0dB s.Mischer = 0dB s.Camera).

To the sound s.einer digital camera übesteuert, a sg headroom used. This is usually HEADROOM. -9dB. This has been so full before the reserve 9dB Level 0dB the mark achieved in the Camera and overdriven.

And before I repeat myself, in my previous post, the rest



Antwort von WideScreen:

said we do not?



Antwort von mon3:

"tommyb" wrote:
Dear People ... I can in this case only one media designer training heartily.


Thank you, I have. Have been synonymous but many years of professional experience in the field.

I wrote already, the theory is sometimes beautiful, often practice different. Pegelton with Digital Camera to -9 einzupegeln I consider gross negligence, which you can make if you have a speaker has practiced on a consistent level and speaks no "outliers" has in it. In everyday life "outside" but you'll get more or less regularly go into clipping.



Antwort von Couper:

Aloha,

So first I thought not, which I list here so ne will trigger Discussion!

Since yesterday, I already am going to 17Uhr tips came too late anyway. Have it done so synonymous that I mixer to -9 and the camera-to-18db Has worked well synonymous. That was my first thought synonymous, I was just annoyed that the mixer was previously set to 0 and I no longer had worked.

And the recommendation on training is unnecessary, which I have. Only heard the EB is not convincing to my normal daily routine, so the uncertainty.

Thanks anyway!








Antwort von tommyb:

"mon3" wrote:
Pegelton with Digital Camera to -9 einzupegeln I consider grossly negligent

I now speech with walls, or how is it?

If the mixer at its Level 0dB out there, then I consider this level Pegelton s.der-9dB at Camera On.

If the speaker really inexperienced Micro purely to the sound of roars and rises to 9dB, then clippt not only in the camera, but already in the mixer for example +6 dB (see SQN 3).

@ Couper
The recommendation was not addressed s.Dich. Just as you've done it, it's been exactly right.



Antwort von Maze:

synonymous if too late now.
I know the mixer and the camera. you level the camera so that the pegelton of mixing in the camera-to-18db is just so and not otherwise.



Antwort von mon3:

"tommyb" wrote:
...

If the speaker really inexperienced Micro purely to the sound of roars and rises to 9dB, then clippt not only in the camera, but already in the mixer for example +6 dB (see SQN 3).


and is a ton better then?

but I will not argue, do it the way you say it and we make it next as usual.



Antwort von WideScreen:

So whether he is talking with the walls, I can not judge, but perhaps Clippt he said yes synonymous None understands him?




Antworten zu ähnlichen Fragen:
JUMANJI: THE NEXT LEVEL
DIY JIB pro level
Audio-Level in MPEG*-Streams
The unscripted sound - Die Rolle des Location Sound Mixers im Reality TV
LowePro ProTactic 450 AW im Test
Full Data Video Level Studio Swing? Wenn der Pegel nicht mehr stimmt...
450 MG nach dem Rendering und Exportieren 10 GB / Premiere2
TVcapture direkt am PIII 450 MHz PC oder ber das Netzwerk?
DJI (Mavic) Mini 2: OcuSync 2.0 und 4K Video für um die 450 Euro
BenQ SW240 24" Monitor mit 99% AdobeRGB und Hardwarekalibrierung für 450 Euro
Nvidia: GeForce RTX 3090 SUPER mit bis zu 450 Watt für 2022 erwartet
Welche DSLR oder welcher Camcorder hat die beste Low light performance bis 450 Euro (gebraucht)?
5.1-Sound aufnehmen?
Sound aufbessern?
Sound gesucht
Video capturen +5.1 Sound?
Sound im DVD-Menü
Kopfhörer mit 5.1 Sound
Hauoli: MotionTracking per Sound
Videoschnitt und Sound
Location Sound Podcast
Tolle Sound App!
Thunderbolt Probleme im Sound
Davinci - Export - Sound
GPS für Sound?
Slow Mo Sound is FAKE

















weitere Themen:
Spezialthemen


16:9
AI
ARD
AVCHD
AVI
Adobe After Effects
Adobe Premiere Pro
After effects
Apple Final Cut Pro
Audio
Avid
Avid Media Composer
Cam
Camcorder
Camera
Canon
Capture
Capturing
Clip
EOS
Editing
Effect
Error
Export
File
Files
Film
Final Cut
Format
Formate
HDR
Import
JVC
KI
Layer
Light
MAGIX video deLuxe
Magix
Microphone
Monitor
Movie
PC
Panasonic
Pinnacle
Pinnacle Studio
Player
Premiere
RAM
RED
Recording
Red
Software
Sony
Sound
Studio
TV
Tape
Video
Videos