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Beleuchtung im Film noir

Lighting in the film noir

Frage von Weihraucher:
April 2006


I am looking for links noir and literature relating to light in the film. I find many pages with description of the film noirs, but they are kept short, concise and general. However, I need a more detailed analysis or tutorials on the subject for a lecture.

I would be very happy if I can help someone

ciao, John

Antwort von Axel:

Salut John,
Your request is paradoxical. Light in the film noir can only refer to the lighting in individual, concrete cases, basically in some (perhaps as an influential force related settings). This is "Noir" does not refer to the lack s.Licht, but is meant metaphorically (the dark page of the company / people lit), although we may naturally expect menacing shadow as a manifestation of Jung's "shadow". Films that take place before final Arrivierung the concept of the 40s, have been attributed to the early 50s to the later film noir to make a subversive moral doubts s.der reliability of the world (or of the society to pay). A good example is Hitchcock's "Shadow of a Doubt" (1943), appear not only in the very title of these two topics most important concepts, but the synonymous modeling here demonstrates how, with a lively teenager (she called Charlie), the always latent " evil "(= dark) in the healing American world guessed, - in the shape of her charming uncle Charlie. More important than a clearly oppressive, gloomy imagery is the inner conflict, are exposed to the figures. Clint Eastwood's "Perfect World" is without doubt a modern film noir. His light is the most beautiful sunshine, the doubt is always with us like its shadow. Again, the evil is practically the real hero of the film.

Depending on how extensive your unit must be down, you will probably not be able to hardcover literary press.

"Lighting in the Western"? Also since you could say that a naturalistic illumination is certainly the rule. But it would be wrong: Each lighting in the film is dramatically justified and underlines the proposed overall impression / expression. One could say that in the Western mostly a natural-looking lighting is desired.

Antwort von Weihraucher:

Hi Alex,

Erstmal Thanks for your detailed reply. Power is always joy to enter into an active forum.

I do not know if I can agree with you, that was my question paradoxical. I do think that one of the film noir as such can detect within seconds, precisely because of his daring revolutionary game with light and shadow as a metaphor and as a stylistic device.

Nevertheless, thanks for the Filmtips. To me I'll look at you.

mfg, John

PS I'm now in the library was a book found on the subject and would look at me a few film noirs tonight, then the works synonymous with the unit.

Antwort von Gast:

But such times for "low key" in connection with film noir, maybe even bring the results ...

Low-key lighting is a large mainly deployed in the film noir style of lighting, in which parts of the image are dark and shadow play a major role.
From: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-Key-Lighting

Lowkey describes a technical and creative style of photography, dominated by the dark tones. This technique should not be confused with an underexposure.
Used mainly in black and white photography stems from the fact that many pictures of black or dark gray areas have created and depicted objects in their plasticity by shadows - usually a few very specific set of sources - are modeled.

From: http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lowkey-Fotografie

Antwort von Axel:

"Incense" wrote:
I do think that one of the film noir as such can detect within seconds, precisely because of his daring revolutionary game with light and shadow as a metaphor and as a stylistic device.

Of course. We have different approaches. You can fit right in saying that we recognize the genre of course s.bestimmten, recurring stylistic devices and. And as I said, someone like my outpost called it "Lowkey" - Lighting is the most natural picture-related response of this wonderful medium to the lurking in secret impulses of our psyche.
The "film noir such as" will, however, that MUs to the level and your presentation at the relevance of a reduced Scary Movie (the fish are indeed synonymous parodies the most obvious stylistic devices such as out of the horror genre and) they expose. Since it's film noir (lower case is probably correct) already existed before the term was applied retrospectively to the following movies and because of its content because the film noir were counted, there are no banal statement.

1. How would the light from the film noir of the difference of the horror genre?

2. What is with the prominent examples (which I have mentioned), in which Yin and Yang is not by hard contrasts, but through more subtle means (action, decor, dialogue, acting, framing, costumes, music etc.) have been identified?

3. What sense would it have to assign a film of a certain (still this very vague) category, if this assignment provides no accumulation of knowledge. Aha, Lowkey, a film noir, I almost thought I had!

My proposal for a presentation would therefore be to show how this Lowkey style has prevailed as the dominant means of design for films of this genre (at least in black and white film), but why is the opposite conclusion totally inadmissible.

Antwort von Gast:

Certainly, the film noir is by no means alone in his light mood preferred to reduce it. But a reminder:
Lighting in film noir
It is precisely this aspect of the Unit is to "illuminate".

Sure, there are representatives of film noir, which should be indicated as such, but thematically, but not stylistically. Conversely - as Axel has already indicated - by far not every film equal to automatic Lowkey a film noir.
Not synonymous and there is a question which came first - the "genre" s.sich or the name for it - but to a certain key issue, which is transported in a certain central imagery. And just as I would interpret the task, it is aimed primarily noir from the classic dark, shadowy lighting of numerous representatives of the film.

Antwort von Axel:

As the Trailer (QT) of "Shadow of a Doubt" shows, the film as a typical representative of the genre are by Lowkey photography. Strangely, I remembered a cheerful, sunlit shots. I think the movie starts and so does that, contrary to the rather gloomy pictures. It would be very suitable to serve as a noir classic example of the technique of the film, with screenshots to hire as an explanation.

Antwort von zabel:

Here you can totgucken you ;-))


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