Infoseite // Limiter / Compressor / etc for Camera?



Frage von DReffects:


Hi folks!

Bin a long time in search of a mobile compressor / limiter s.der directly to the camera can be operated.

Has someone a tip?

Thanks & Regards,
Daniel

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Antwort von robbie:

well, normally you pegelt so from that you have enough headroom and then a limiter may be necessary in the editing software adjusts accordingly. So I have to-20dB, as I often am a loud environment. if quiet is s.die-12dB ...

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Antwort von geid0r:

Hi!

I would to a compressor during recording refrain. He changed the dynamic range unveänderlich. So you could you in the Post Production annoy powerful.

Straight s.Wochenende I filmed a symphony orchestra and with additional microphones off. The dynamic range of an orchestra is huge. From-30dB to-3db is because everything (in good mic level). So dear device level and then adjust so happens to you and you no clipping ärgerst you will not have a compressor from "versaute" sound.

Greeting
geid0r

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Antwort von DReffects:

I totally agree with you on is only for my use rather than production.

I draw mostly two moderators or moderator with partners on the interview, via 2x sennheiser radio link directly into the canon xh a1. then said there is a track on channel l, trace b to r. Since the online asap must be filmed and are only involved language would give me such a labor-saving device Masses. each time adjustment, after the film traces the post-process, convert to mono, etc. ..

hence the desire for a device which in principle with everything you reinwirft front (ok, for the formulation werd I probably beaten ^ ^) behind a consistent level rauswirft.

in practice I imagine the way that I have the device at relatively high compression run (clear, therefore, the dynamics of flutes, but who cares ^ ^ agree with), then a big gain with limiter on-1dB. (which I do, at least so far in the audio software) then I agree very present, just the right thing for the web-show is not 'at rest' watches.

idea behind is to just 'live' reports of events that what was filmed IMMEDIATELY send / online can also be without the above steps to go through. Capture, convert, upload.

:)

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Antwort von robbie:

for all the steps you need but no longer than 1-2 minutes ... is at least for me so ... the car is already ...
if you now the dynamic range runtergibst, the changes per se ja nix s.der aussteurung.
buy such a device is really pointless. Firstly, I'm not aware that you operate with a battery can, and secondly, only for the limiter, it is already synonymous wurscht because you set your camera to stop recording automatically. that is in this case then the same anyway ...
and the two tracks to a mono summed you eh anyway, or double. and then quickly normalize (two clicks!) and finished the whole ...

There are reasons why such devices do not exist;)

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Antwort von david2:

Hi Daniel,

what kind of camera did you? On my FX-1 is a limiter on it, which worked reasonably well.
Otherwise, there are devices that you can hinbammeln somewhere and with the work could Battery (FMR AUDIO RNC 1773 (Ub = 9V)).

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Antwort von DReffects:

Hi Robbie,

do you like me your workflow with the Adobe tools times explain? For me it's always a huge expense. With the camera internal limiter of the Canon XH A1, I have the problem that the extremely fast to level so that hochzieht between spoken sentences, the noise is extremely loud. Hence the desire for such a device that in three steps
- All s.einem conscience kills Threshold (zb - 30dB) between the rush to avoid
- Then the dynamic range compression is reduced by
- Then with his hard limiter and +10 db gain and so on .- 1 db hochzieht everything (ok, perhaps quite as extreme nciht ^ ^)

Yes I know that sounds hard and just accidentally, but for the operational area, it is exactly what I need.

If I were now in his 60 min. Take me where in the stereo track, the two have Mics dsa entire export as a wave, then in the audio software download, all three must filter, mono / stereo convert, import again (thanks to the nice bug in CS2), then I am wasting valuable 20-30 minutes in which the clip may have to render.

Quote: Otherwise, there are devices that you can hinbammeln somewhere and with the work could Battery (FMR AUDIO RNC 1773 (Ub = 9V)). Hui does not sound that bad - you write e device - you have some tips?

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Antwort von rush:

nabend,

du cut with premiere? I do not know what version you have but in Premiere Pro VST's you can mount ... are quasi audio plugins of which is as synonymous Hauf freeware plugins are paid to the dynamics of ussynonymous promise ... so you could have such a plugin to your corresponding track in premiere set the settings and then adjust for any pronounced gate, limiter & compressor ... and the effect then possibly even synonymous to "copy"

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Antwort von DReffects:

moin

I know works for me but for some reason with not a single plugin. neither s.laptop with onboard (mostly on events), nor with its s.stationären pc x-fi. that is synonymous ... so ne sache sidechaining ist echt ne qual: (

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Antwort von david2:

Yet few comments on my part:

For a hardware solution, there is in fact not much choice (Behringer boycott me. With these expensive portable Audiomischern kenn 'I'm not good enough.
Here are two examples:
Presonus Comp16 Preset Compressor (110.00 ¬) Ub = 16 V
http://www.presonus.com/products/Detail.aspx?ProductId=18

JOEMEEK MC2 (stereo) (200.00 ¬) Ub = 12V

(see synonymous:

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Antwort von robbie:

ui, cumbersome. and since you only have internet for films, the compression is so nice eh verhaut again.

moment in my workflow looks like this:

kamera: ch1 and ch2 manual recording of inputs 1 and 2 at-20dB or-12dB, depending on the shooting environment.
CH3 and CH4, I use either for the automatic recording of two channels, with-12dB as a reference as a "backup" if the manual is not hinhaut or ch3 car for a mix of input 1 and 2, and CH4 for a atmospur with the micro-camera.
with your camera will take but I s.nicht go, especially not when 4x48k ... but that is no preference because manual ch1 and ch2 goes to all cases, the rest is so synonymous with me really only backup ...

in premiere then I take the stereo track, right-click - Audio Amplifiers - normalize.
Now it fits me the whole car at about-2dB to. oh yes, I always talk of digitally-db, so maximum is null and should never be achieved.
then copy the track and the track lay below. now you have 2x the same track. then each to the stereo-audio-filter "left blank" and "fill right" to apply. now you have 2 stereo tracks with both left and right with the same content.
ready.

to normalize - effect works very well if you do not have extreme sharp indoors, but with good recorded sound does not occur anyway. Just give it a try. if this fails, you can still have an effect on it lay.

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Antwort von DReffects:

Hi Robbie,

not peak in recorded sound good? How is this supposed to go, please? Must be only one laughing times and haste already three to four times the level of rest. since normalization brings absolutely nothing. or if you want to with the fist on NEN table suggests, or on the street who comes to the micro, or ....

;)

otherwise würd ichs Gerns o make, that would be great:)

Dave2:
thanks for the tips, but the parts need much too much power, are too big and not with battery-operated.

Is not such a small box, 5x5x4 inches or so? menno;)

it seems unlikely to give: (

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