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Frage von Videoenthusiast:


Dear Forum,

I save my old Hi8 tapes before too.
Some time ago I tried to start, but could save only a movie, because then the Hi8 camera broke.

Well I bought a new Canon Hi8 Camera of Ebay and have been trying to digitize a few films (USB video converter of Magix).

Now, however, is a problem that I had not previously had.
zum Bild Habe versucht ein Beispiel zu machen. Also erkenne ich in regelmäßigen diese Streifen, in dieser Zeit bleibt zusätzlich der Sound weg.

Merkwürdigerweise sind diese Störungen gelegentlich nicht bei der gleichen Stelle zu finden, so treten diese manchmal synonymous bei anderen Stellen auf oder bleiben nach mehrmaligem Abspielen synonymous ganz weg.

It is fair to say that these videos have not played an estimated 4-7 years.


I really hope for your kompenten Council and hope that you understand my problem!


Thank YOU in advance!

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Antwort von srone:

first: reinigungskasette

the second: any kasette rewind time, so a time ago, and back again.

lg

SRON

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Antwort von Videoenthusiast:

The coils I have already tried, the effect here is rather thin.

However, I must mention that I have the new Sony camera attached to the cartridge once played for a few minutes and then I played again. These recordings are played but no interference.
Nevertheless Reinigungskasette?

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"Videoenthusiast" wrote:
Well I bought a new camera of Canon Hi8 on eBay ...


Uh oh. Such impulse are quite dangerous. You know who, what state are discarded equipment on eBay. "Are new" it does not guarantee, at least not Hi8 or Video8. A much better idea would have been to buy you on ebay instead of a Hi8 camcorder, Digital8 camcorders, but one who can play alongside the digital cassette synonymous nor Video8 and Hi8. The first has the advantage that the camera even during playback of Hi-8 tapes and digitized them you dub the digital signal via FireWire to a PC can and it will be lost. Secondly, so you'd still like a digital camera to shoot / private use. For Digital8 and MiniDV cassettes s.der differs only size, but it is both digital.

"Videoenthusiast" wrote: ... and today I tried a couple of films to digitize (USB video converter of Magix).

(Oh oh) ²! USB converter, Grabberboxen and all other devices that are under the slogan "Save-to-sell your videotapes-in-only a few steps" should be avoided as much as possible ... This support, in most cases not the final quality, but rather bring more problems with him.

"Videoenthusiast" wrote: However, I must mention that I have the new Sony camera attached to the cartridge once played for a few minutes and then I played again. These recordings are played but no interference.

Hmm. When your playing with all the tapes will be distorted, but the camera easily reproduce their own images, it seems to me to look after a misalignment. Either your camera, with which you have received your tapes, maladjusted (in this case, your tapes may only play back of the camera, with the they've been added), or of the auctioned on Ebay-Camera is maladjusted, so only their their recordings are played, Fremdaufnahmen are not.

In such a case, the story is more complicated. If it really should act in a misalignment, it would at worst a specialist firm to be considered. For example, the http://www.kassettenklinik.de/.

It would be best for you, even if the camera would be maladjusted Ebay, then you'd have just another, and then could not get misadjusted reflect your tapes.
Was, however, your camera, with which you have recorded the tapes, maladjusted, then no other camera can do more to play the tapes, then it would still remain the only professional company ...

Here, related topics, you should be synonymous in the time capture:

1.) Six Ways to digitize VHS/Video8/Hi-8:

2nd FireWire FAQ">follow) camcorder / VHS recorder s.PC, capture and edit images:

Especially the point 1c in the second link ( "Why not capture using graphics card, TV card or video grabbers?") Should be instructive ...

Also:

3.) Tips and tricks for video digitization (of MarkusB.) - Especially in connection with the analog-digital converter Canopus ADVC-300

4.) digitize VHS tapes - Which codec?

Most important for a clean digitization is a playback device that is in 1A state.

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Antwort von srone:

Your problem suggests that somewhere a lint or the like either is in the corresponding non-functioning kasette (hence the umspulversuch with the goal of the lint), so to speak wegzuschleudern or s.der drum head, because as you write the effect occurs periodically and do not always s . the same places, so a wanderfussel. probiers with the reinigungskasette or search, if you get the expect of, open, kasettenschacht by dirt or the like on the drum head, then isopropanol and cotton tips to remove that very order.

lg

SRON

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"SRON" wrote: Your problem suggests that somewhere a lint or the like is ...

Sorry, but this is fairly weigh. If Ebay-Camera can easily play their own records (see above), but only problematic Fremdaufnahmen reproduces, then the evidence clearly indicates a misalignment. What Ebay purchases is not at all uncommon, so my tip to purchase never-used equipment on Ebay for digitizing, without having themselves been tested extensively prior to ...

"SRON" wrote: ... or search, if you get the expect of, open, kasettenschacht by dirt or the like on the drum head, then isopropanol and cotton tips to remove that very order.

This is a very dangerous advice! First, inexperienced (yet may want Grobmotoriker) people who never seek arbitrarily to clean the miniaturist drive, secondly, it should never be carried out with a cotton swab. The danger is too great to be demolished by the fine hairs of the cotton heads s.der small video head drum, for example, if the hooked wool.
For this cleaning process, there are special leather sticks. Isopropanol other hand, is in order. Where appropriate, you should use analytical isopropanol, as this is very pure.

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Antwort von Videoenthusiast:

Thank you thank you for all the answers.

Now the camera already is running about 40 minutes and now there are no more disturbances. Very strange.

But I'll ask around times for a Digital 8 camera.
But the budget would not be enough to purchase more.

What's with an A / D converter, you can even rent for 40 ¬. Puuhhh ...

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"Videoenthusiast" wrote:
But I'll ask around times for a Digital 8 camera.
But the budget would not be enough to purchase more.


But were definitely worth investing. You can even resell your Hi8 Cam and possibly'll get something for it.

"Videoenthusiast" wrote: What's with an A / D converter, you can even rent for 40 ¬. Puuhhh ...

Well, an A / D converter would obviously be the best quality of what you could do to your shots. Which can significantly improve the quality (at least s.dem Canopus ADVC-300 there are individual settings for the picture-and sound quality). And with the built-in TBC (timebase corrector -> Google ---> Wikipedia), the video signal yet stabilized before it is digitized.

More on the converters can be found on www.digitalschnitt.de

But of course it should be noted that even a converter can not perform magic work: The most important thing is and remains the first link in the digitization chain: And that's the playback device. Only if the playback device is in a clean, state-maintained, can take place best possible signal transfer. Worn-out, worn-out equipment, such as those often found on Ebay, one should therefore be avoided ...

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Antwort von srone:

"JMS Productions wrote: "SRON" wrote: Your problem suggests that somewhere a lint or the like is ...

Sorry, but this is fairly weigh. If Ebay-Camera can easily play their own records (see above), but only problematic Fremdaufnahmen reproduces, then the evidence clearly indicates a misalignment. What Ebay purchases is not at all uncommon, so my tip to purchase never-used equipment on Ebay for digitizing, without having themselves been tested extensively prior to ...


if the camera would misadjusted the problem would not occur sporadically.

lg

SRON

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"SRON" wrote:
if the camera would misadjusted the problem would not occur sporadically.


Yes. I speak from experience, I had to leave my entire professional tapes and digitize expensive, because it turned out that the camera, with which they were recorded, was maladjusted. The photos ran in other devices for a few seconds / minutes as no errors, but then again distorted Deart that neither picture nor sound was evident.

In any case, the above problem indicates a misalignment of more than a by a dust particle or fiber-induced errors. Do you know how many are dust or fiber particles in each Cam and on each tape?

The mechanics at Consumercamcordern is fairly tolerant just because very few moviemakers their appliances serviced regularly and always only if it is already too late (ie) for image disturbance or visual loss.

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Antwort von Videoenthusiast:

I think that when resale can be expected because of this problem is not a good rating.

Moreover, we already have a mini DV camera.
Stood at Ebay, this camera almost never used, only for flight shots.
Device synonymous and accessories look like new.

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Antwort von srone:

that a lot of little particles in each drive there and the more the older the device is, I am aware, but I am thinking s.etwas larger, eg broken hair-pointed, large lint, etc., just something that can clearly be identified optical , quickly, therefore the council with. But as said above läufts even now, I think the main thing is to be ;-)

lg

SRON

edit: And why do not you use your mini-dv to digitize, provided it has a video-in, then out firewire?

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Antwort von JMS Productions:

"Videoenthusiast" wrote:
Stood at Ebay, this camera almost never used, only for flight shots.
Device synonymous and accessories look like new.


Yes clear ... What would you reinschreiben on Ebay if you wanted to sell your Cam?

"10,000 hours of operation behind it, never cleaned, poor condition"?
Of course, buyer offers to write pure lies, they want after all verscherpeln its products the best possible ...

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