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Frage von dieterbecker:


can be in low light conditions (eg at night or in artificial light) still perform manual white balance, or do I need to then switch to automatic?

in my manual is the manual to automatic is preferable.

also seen in the more automatic the pixel error.

what do you do if you like the evening turns and no sunlight is available?

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Antwort von Markus:

"Dieter Becker" wrote: can be in low light conditions (eg at night or in artificial light) still perform manual white balance, or do I need to then switch to automatic?

in my manual is the manual to automatic is preferable.

also seen in the more automatic the pixel error.

what do you do if you like the evening turns and no sunlight is available?
Edit: Full quote added because becker dieter tends to its origin to delete postings.

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"Dieter Becker" wrote: can be in low light conditions (eg at night or in artificial light) still perform manual white balance [...]?
Yes, it is possible. Give it a try.

Cross-reference:
White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

"Dieter Becker" wrote: White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

in my manual is the manual to automatic is preferable. White Balance with oder ohne Knitter


A very good instructions! ;-)

White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

"Dieter Becker" wrote: White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

also seen in the more automatic the pixel error. White Balance with oder ohne Knitter


Aha. - That would be new to me! Do you see any pixel errors resulting from an automatic white balance?

White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

"Dieter Becker" wrote: White Balance with oder ohne Knitter

what do you do if you like the evening turns and no sunlight is available? White Balance with oder ohne Knitter


A video light use, better still, a couple of headlights. Alternatively just turn there, where there is sufficient lighting.

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Antwort von Schleichmichel:

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Antwort von dieterbecker:

thanks for the reply so far.

habs just tried: manual white balance (2500k anzeige was) in the living room with artificial lighting:
the pixel errors, although to see, but not as strong as with auto-adjustment: you've switched to auto, once the building was a bit brighter and noisy (corrupted pixels were more visible).

otherwise I would be interested to know how dark it in artificial conditions (at news / eng often the case) is: auto or manual. (actually it would just go auto, because in manual "low light" is displayed).

what do I need to filter übrigends 5600K 1 / 64 ND and 1 / 8 ND?

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Antwort von BenMan999:

"Dieter Becker" wrote: otherwise I would be interested to know how dark it in artificial conditions (at news / eng often the case) is: auto or manual. (actually it would just go auto, because in manual "low light" is displayed).

what do I need to filter übrigends 5600K 1 / 64 ND and 1 / 8 ND?
That you will then notice, if you only when completely closed over exposure, Aperture no longer have ... :)

Or German: The Graufilter (Neutral Density, ND) will reduce the brightness so that you re in an area are, what the camera within the normal aperture area can hold.

Now once again the White Balance: If there is so little light that you are not white balance can make, then you just think about how you become a matching white balance come. It depends of course from the subject and the prevailing light conditions.

As an example, we assume a busy downtown intersection with a lot of neon signs. The sun goes under, it starts the "blue hour". You're in between, as long as it is, every now again a white balance. Sometime it is not anymore. Then as long as you turn next, until you realize that now more than artificial light illuminates the intersection. Then it's time for a new White Balance, which you for example with a battery lamp or other white light source halfway out of them. But of course, not with an orange street light.

Try out a lot, you always speak on the tape, as you've done the comparison - then you gain the necessary experience.

Matthias

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Antwort von Jan:

The ND filter, which camera do you have?

If a Höherklassige is the same manual exposure to the desired depth of field, despite changes (bright) light conditions to keep the same. When the aperture and shutter speed the same as the popular 1/50sek you get with the ND filter, so again a smaller depth of field synonymous if the amount of light outside is increasing.

When it is a 3 CCD with small 1 / 3 "(PD 170) or 1 / 4" (FX 7 & V 1) is you can always be difficult to implement, is more suitable for 2 / 3 sensors or 35 mm lenses.

Sonybrauchst When you do not read, which are voluntary and would help us point out when an appropriate Graufilter (ND 1, ND 2) is at least in the DSR PD 170 or FX 7 Sun.

After many lessons, the medium Lenses synonymous with Aperture not synonymous open and not closed the best mapping services.

Go to White Balance, wenns ne Canon, which have their weaknesses in artificial light (the bulb), a manual is often mandatory WAG.

When I Sonyhab very good experiences WAG on artificial and he adapted very often synonymous with the automatic transmission such as the FX 7 was very good - I was a little surprised. The FX 7 Allowed 2 manual WAG - A and B if it does not work. I film quite often in low light and artificial light, Canon has given me has sometimes brought to despair ... They have their strengths again elsewhere.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von Markus:

"Dieter Becker" wrote: ... (pixel errors were more to see).
I ask again for the screenshot. Because something is not true but if one looks pixel errors.

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Antwort von rtzbild:

"Anonymous" wrote:
As an example, we assume a busy downtown intersection with a lot of neon signs. The sun goes under, it starts the "blue hour". You're in between, as long as it is, every now again a white balance. Sometime it is not anymore. Then as long as you turn next, until you realize that now more than artificial light illuminates the intersection. Then it's time for a new White Balance, which you for example with a battery lamp or other white light source halfway out of them. But of course, not with an orange street light.
Matthias

Hello Matthias,
that you have now but let me explain why I have to manual white balance a battery lamp osnehmen should, and not the existing Lighting "Street Light"?

I am the same but on the ambient light, not to an auxiliary light.

Exception made clear when the auxiliary light, "head light" motivbeherrschend is.

Olli

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Mark" wrote: Because something is not true but if one looks pixel errors.
Dieter Becker has in that other thread

http://forum.slashcam.de/10-pixelfehler-bei-gebrauchter-kamera-vom-handler-vp184776.html?highlight = # 184776

written that needed to be acquired JVC camcorder shoulder an unusually large number of pixel errors. With the white balance discussed here have nothing to do.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von rtzbild:

"Dieter Becker" wrote:
otherwise I would be interested to know how dark it in artificial conditions (at news / eng often the case) is: auto or manual.

Hi Dieter,

"News" and "ENG" are not "often" in dark tungsten, who says something?

Menin You may reportage à la "explosive", where the team of people at home s.der door surprised?

Even DAS is often enough pretty well lit, o)
if it really "surprise" is ...

Olli

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Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

"rtzbild" wrote: Hello Matthias,
that you have now but let me explain why I have to manual white balance a battery lamp osnehmen should, and not the existing Lighting "Street Light"?
Let us consider this: One must of course around the theme "White Balance" a lot of experience, existing lighting and can properly assess synonymous know how the camera behaves own. If we look at my example with a big cross to remain, then yes because you have a whole bunch of different light sources: High street lamps, perhaps showcase lighting, neon sign fonts, vehicles and so next. Since there is s.sich a 3200-Kelvin presets, but I have no idea whether small cameras have something synonymous. For me, I know that my filter 1 at preset rather a bit too cold Picture makes synonymous but I know that I have with my battery light is mostly accurate. I'm glad synonymous following times: If I were anywhere close s.eine Leuchstoffröhre come, then I go do the white and then turn an O-sound or a survey with my battery light, then the skin tone a bit warmer and so pleasant.

Mostly you with a street lamp is not white can make, because the light is what comes down, too little. Or it is a mercury vapor lamp light mixing. Or a Gaslaterne. The yes but all give a very different light. Therefore, the rather precise a 3200 K halogen lamp (eg Sachtler Reporter 50 or 100) a good compromise, which the existing overall mood very well.

We must just watch out that you do not have to be blue or orange Picture makes both then caused unnecessary expense later correction.

Matthias

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Antwort von rtzbild:

BTW:
"simone becker" bought a professional and quite expensive camcorder.

He asked if error pixels "normal" his, vieviele tolerable.

OK, a professional can ever happen, the only company so far has used its own equipment.

Now he wants but he suddenly in the basics of video technology will be introduced, he also deleted all of his recent postings.

Prize Question: What wrong here?

Olli

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Antwort von rtzbild:

Hello Matthias,

"small" cameras have this preset, sometimes even synonymous Menurädchen "program selection" * g *

I prefer, however, usually the "manual".

White balance in mixed light altväter custom:

_sauberes_ Frosted glass or white handkerchief in front of the lens clamp, then blurred the manual white balance, you jump the values of Farbsonde "viewfinder" is not as crazy and out her.

Power is in the light metering incidentally as synonymous.

Fact is, of course, that artificial undefined _nie_ a clean, color-free rauskommt Picture.

For night shots isses no preference in adult films is a light red-orange, light blue with horror desired.
"Painting With Light"

Olli

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