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Frage von marsteini:


Hello,

I would like one of my two stand microphone (dynamic) on top of my Panasonic GS230 assemble. It is a normal? Round Microphone with XLR connector. Per adapter I can connect it s.den camcorder, but I just missing the pass. Bracket for the camera shoe (Bltzschuh) above. Where there are such fixtures or how you can own the building?



Antwort von robbie:

Dynamic microphones are not really suitable for special requirements. What do you want because that record?



Antwort von Markus:

"marsteini" wrote: Where there are such fixtures ...?
Maybe you are looking for something like the Beyerdynamic accessory shoe adapter BS 86? This can be a (existing) Microphone clamp synonymous or a spider on the accessory shoe of the camcorder attached.

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A dynamic microphone is known to be very insensitive, ie it should already be in a noisy environment, in the other microphone types, control (eg, disco and Formula 1-race).



Antwort von marsteini:

Actually, I wanted it as "internal micro-replacement use, also acts by imposing the Cam, so I want to lead, not that I für nen plain passersby will be held, but that you can see that I have received a bit ambitious as news for make my website.

Furthermore, I would like to additionally used as a micro-hand that you can quickly diminish if not used and is synonymous while back up is ...

I had only two of my mics with mixer nem connected and from which wars so loud that we had understood garnix more. With the mixer were not so insensitive?



Antwort von robbie:

"marsteini" wrote: Actually, I wanted it as "internal micro-replacement use, also acts by imposing the Cam, so I want to lead, not that I für nen plain passersby will be held, but that you can see that I have received a bit ambitious as news for make my website.

As you make more ridiculous than you want to act ...

"marsteini" wrote:
Furthermore, I would like to additionally used as a micro-hand that you can quickly diminish if not used and is synonymous while back up is ...

As a micro-hand is a dynamic Microphone inappropriate, because it has so often has characteristics of a ball, and more ambient noise than they include ...

"marsteini" wrote:
I had only two of my mics with mixer nem connected and from which wars so loud that we had understood garnix more. With the mixer were not so insensitive?
This depends on the mixer and the settings. Because you should, of course correctly predict levels. If the gain on full attack is you can get even a Headphones Microphone use as ...



Antwort von Markus:

"marsteini" wrote: Actually, I wanted it as "internal micro-replacement use ...
Internal Microphone is a Elektret-/Kondensatortyp, while the dynamic is completely different sound recording would provide. Try out the times, regardless of whether it fits or not. The Umgebungston will be much quieter than with the built in Microphone, unless someone is very close to the dynamic microphone and speaks into it.

Dynamic microphones have to close s.der sound source are (in hindsight speaking eg <10 cm), because everything that takes place next away, is being increasingly ignored. So are those microphones so synonymous for sound, stage and interviews in noisy environments.

"marsteini" wrote: ... Also, the cam is impressive, so I want to lead, not that I für nen plain passersby will be held, but that you can see that I have received a bit ambitious as news for my website make.
No matter what you pack on top, a small camcorder remains even for the unexperienced amateur recognizable as a small camcorder. Would be appropriate since the use of a Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.

"marsteini" wrote: Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.

I had only two of my mics with mixer nem connected and from which wars so loud that we had understood garnix more. With the mixer were not so insensitive? Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.


If you are a dynamic Microphone according to his purpose, then the output level is not lower than other microphones synonymous. With the volume s.sich has little to do.

Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.

"robbie" wrote: Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.

As a micro-hand is a dynamic Microphone inappropriate, because it has so often has characteristics of a ball, and more ambient noise than they include ... Matte Box, doch eine solche kostet i.d.R. mehr als ein kleiner Consumer-Camcorders.


There has to be some confusion exist, because the dynamic pattern is typical for hand microphones (see vocal mics) and they are mostly kidneys.



Antwort von robbie:

"Mark" wrote:

"robbie" wrote: As a micro-hand is a dynamic Microphone inappropriate, because it has so often has characteristics of a ball, and more ambient noise than they include ...
There has to be some confusion exist, because the dynamic pattern is typical for hand microphones (see vocal mics) and they are mostly kidneys.

jau, sry, I was there somewhere;)



Antwort von marsteini:

OK, so for interviews it is suitable - good.
If I really have one for top wish, what would be doing well? What always bothers me personally, are part of the noise and keep pressing the buttons s.der Cam. While at the GS-230 quite suppressed, but sometimes just yet. Have not I would like to spend, but I can not imagine that here (http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=302865) really brings. Have read many times that the Rode Video Mic quite good for? What do you think?



Antwort von Markus:

"marsteini" wrote: What always bothers me personally, are part of the noise and keep pressing the buttons s.der Cam.
Actually, this is normal ... see the drive, Zoom-and noise control - including tip to avoid such interference.

"marsteini" wrote: Have not I would like to spend, but I can not imagine that here (http://www.conrad.de/goto.php?artikel=302865) really brings.
To a certain point, one can say that the sound quality of a microphone with its price increases. A Micro for 20 ¬ at any rate, I dare not synonymous and would rather brand merchandise s.65 ¬ look (eg Hama RMZ-10) or even that Røde VideoMic. The latter is even a spider with.






Antwort von marsteini:

Hello,

ich hab mich grad a little from other similar topics read. Ich glaub, ich werd take the Rode. But another question: Can the Rode from the "Aufhängegestell" (spider?) Ruasnehmen and as a micro-hand use? Is it this? After all offers Hama, of you like the above, synonymous "Universal Mikros" at. In another contribution times have you written that every MicroStation only for his area is suitable (I can well imagine synonymous). How is it then that? And how are internal microphone designed, but which usually implies a pasablen sound in different areas?



Antwort von Aljoscha.Niko:

VideoMic did not, but the pictures I can see that the VideoMic synonymous from the spider would have to take leave, fasteners s.einer spider would be nonsense, because then the noise would be yes on the spider to the Mic be transferred exactly to the to avoid there's spiders. To hold in your hand, the VideoMic but very impractical from.

Greeting



Antwort von Markus:

"marsteini" wrote: Can Rode from the "Aufhängegestell" (spider?) Ruasnehmen and as a micro-hand use?
As far as I know, you can VideoMic not take the spider out (at least not without removing the gums), as the bracket is an integral part of the microphone is. But the second part of your question, I can affirm: The VideoMic is suitable as a hand microphone as the RMZ-10 from Hama, but that with the spider then obviously strange looks.

"marsteini" wrote: After all offers Hama, of you like the above, synonymous "Universal Mikros" at.
An amateur filmmaker can be things like "Universal microphones" or synonymous "directional stereo microphones to" sell, but who prefer a more clean sound recording establishes itself and thus know a little bit, would probably just laugh. The stop is always a question of the relation of money and what could be achieved.

"marsteini" wrote: And how are internal microphone designed, but which usually implies a pasablen sound in different areas?
An inexpensive (not cheap zuuu) directional microphone is just a passable sounds like the built-in Microphone, except that the directional effect is pronounced. Even more: If the camcorder recording from the built-in microphone so far appears to be sufficient to be with an external Microphone usually notice a marked improvement. A directional microphone is the first step off of "general atmosphere around the camcorder" and to "Sound of da, where the synonymous Picture comes from the front."

"Aljoscha.Niko" wrote: ... s.einer fastening spider would be nonsense, because then the noise would be yes on the spider to be transferred Mic ...
As long as the suspension is elastic, it does not matter whether a Microphone in the rubber rings pinched, or whether a firm connection between the microphone and the rubber rings. The only important thing is the presence of the elastic link so that structure-borne sound is not passed on.



Antwort von Aljoscha.Niko:

"Mark" wrote: As long as the suspension is elastic, it does not matter whether a Microphone in the rubber rings pinched, or whether a firm connection between the microphone and the rubber rings. The only important thing is the presence of the elastic link so that structure-borne sound is not passed on.

So in the example should sound. :)

Greeting