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Frage von Kiara Borini:


Yes, everyone here obviously love video ;-) But, perhaps the question is yes but welcome, and perhaps even someone here they can pi times synonymous Reply thumb. At the very least have occasionally even people from the sales outed here ...

So when I walk through the Konsumermärkte, then I see the grapes before DigiCams and isolated from the VideoCam interested. Hundreds of offers in Stehbildsektor against a handful of deals in the moving image.

Should the interest is reflected in the purchasing behavior? If so, how gross numbers? 3:1, 10:1? At the price it can surely not be alone, because especially the DSLR are already badly under siege, and in the pricing area is on the Videocam yes always practicable to buy what.

There is a change of trend with the new models or MPEG2 Flash HDD models that appear in UK stores? Rises as the interest?

Especially in the mobile phone sector will indeed be the video, the future cash cow: Provocative prompted growing interest in the mass market if the quality is sufficiently bad?

What's up with video, that - according to my observations - the tastes of the masses does not seem to take it as a digital instant from the state has succeeded?

Why video is less represented? - Status, coolness factor? Handabung? Complexity? Achievable outcomes? disappointed expectations due to TV / Movies? Sentimental value?

And what is on this basis, a forecast for HDV? Does the more seasoned veterans of the upgrade or may be due to good image quality obtained by interested parties for new video?

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Antwort von Nightfly!:

On the business administration or Wirstchaftsstatistiker for his thesis, or something in the way!

Quote: ..., Perhaps the question is still allowed, ...
It is not just a question!
Quote: Should the interest is reflected in the purchasing behavior?
Of course, the more the offer, the more competition and thus price pressure.
Quote: If so, how gross numbers? 3:1, 10:1?
YOU have the market but apparently observed.
Quote: At the price it can surely not be alone, because especially the DSLR are already badly under siege, and in the pricing area is on the Videocam yes always practicable to buy what.
But! The bulk buys are not "expensive" DigiCams (about 600 ¬) and because the range in above-average but not very good cameras (let alone starts) ProfiCAM.
Quote: There is a change of trend with the new models or MPEG2 Flash HDD models that appear in UK stores? Rises as the interest? No!
Quote: Especially in the mobile phone sector will indeed be the video, the future cash cow: Provocative prompted growing interest in the mass market if the quality is sufficiently bad?
Sigh!
Quote: What's up with video, that - according to my observations - the tastes of the masses does not seem to take it as a digital instant from the state has succeeded? Money and Präsenationsmöglichkeiten are the cause!
Quote: Why video is less represented? - Status, coolness factor? Handabung? Complexity? Achievable outcomes? disappointed expectations due to TV / Movies? Sentimental value?
YOU have the market but apparently observed.
Quote: And what is on this basis, a forecast for HDV? Does the more seasoned veterans of the upgrade or may be due to good image quality obtained by interested parties for new video? Both as synonymous!

Greeting
Nightfly ;-)

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Antwort von Stefan:

There are simply more photogenic than videografierende users. And if x per thousand of each group wander through the store ... Clear where the grapes are then.

Why there are fewer videographers? In a well-made video of the pure host part is yes Peanuts and the main work lies elsewhere. Since a Stillimage is much easier to make. This is not meant to be derogatory.

And technology improvements in video cameras are s.der situation to change little. An improvement in the post - as it came through the whole DV editing - there is much more useful. Look just take the whole snowboarding / skate border scene. Just last week, in the evening in the middle of the city, three guys in the street skaters turn their film ...

Unfortunately, the cause of the industry was screwed up so far that the forums full of "PC recognizes the camera is not" instead of filled with "heh, who makes this film with me." I'd like to know how many that is why the camera has located only in the closet thinking and frustration with it. That's why I see the new technologies synonymous with a crying eye - it is indeed this does not necessarily easier.

CU
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von Kiara Borini:

"Nightfly" wrote: YOU have the market but apparently observed.

What I see is that which can pick up in the shops s.Ware. What s.The Checkout is taken, I can only see if I even buy something. The chance is high that the predecessor fund has bought an espresso machine, and the man behind a new shaving head for his razor ...

Furthermore, I conclude that from the repeated requests of friends in the wg. a new DigiCam be brought s.mich (What model?) with almost no requests for video.

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Antwort von Jan:

Hi Kiara,

most of you have correctly observed.

It is difficult at the moment the previous year's sales for the product group Video Camera created. The majority of markets have 20-30% less camcorder sales. (I can speak only of my chain, and am happy when I create sales from last year, that is a big challenge)

Amazing, actually quite small to get a good beginner camera for about 300 ¬ SonyHC 17 or Canon V 790th For most people this is sufficient, and a few years ago there were at least $ 1000 for a mono device for starters.

For Stillimage business transactions are more likely to increase.

DVD camcorders go pretty well synonymous only (at least 1 / 3 coming back here because of the often-described cutting issues)

The hard disk models, like the MPEG 2 SD camcorder will schleppent.

HDV cameras for sale in proportion to the price go quite orderly, far better, but LCD and plasma televisions.

You have to be but honestly, most of the friends or acquaintances happy to look at a few pictures, but a film selbstbearbeiteten but only rarely.

I've recently seen it with my uncle. He has SonyPC 120 and was in Ghana and has dozens stood perched s.PC neatly with the film projector and present large canvas. Unfortunately, many visitors were quickly distracted, despite well-cut's and the inclusion of many effects.

LG
January

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Antwort von jens:

"Jan" wrote: Unfortunately, many visitors were quickly distracted, despite well-cut's and the inclusion of many effects.

Hey Jan,
synonymous if that is now completely different from the subject, I would think that it still counts vsauf the film.
I mean, you can not say that people would not / hardly be receptive to films. I would almost argue the opposite: a well-made film, some people see them more often s.während the millions of MY BEST off left lying (apropos, what is going on with Dynamo ?!;-()

To be honest, I think it is somehow synonymous nice to be not quite so mainstream: Find a friend who claimed appealing photos of themselves to make. Search other hand, someone who will regularly fed with moving images that appeal to you.
Liebe Grüße, Jens

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Antwort von Jan:

Hello Jens,

I'm looking forward to the next home match, and the effects thereafter.
Hans Meyer has indeed signed in Nuremberg (6 points in 12 games!) As synonymous He should have gone to Dynamo, but I press Christoph Franke anyway fingers crossed.
Well, in principle, is almost complete resistance to grasp the second people are probably not close to 2 Ligatauglich. And when the game was in my new arena sold out for 1860 with a 2-league game 66,000? - Only in Dresden, had himself Aufstiegsanwerter Freiburg, or the great Willi Landgraf Force Auswärtsfans less. From Aue to come up now about 10000 - are hardly synonymous but to create it ....

Well now, enough with football before me remind Rudi or Mark ....

Amazingly, many people are synonymous with the video function of a digicam and I am satisfied with my take a few minutes and that's enough.
Man must say when you've recently saw an ad for a video camera? (I myself can not Errinnern)
If only yesterday digicam Canon 350 D!

LG
January

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Antwort von jens:

"Jan" wrote:
Man must say when you've recently saw an ad for a video camera? (I myself can not Errinnern)
If only yesterday digicam Canon 350 D!


Right. I believe that had this DVD camcorder of Sony. But may have been synonymous Print ...
Jens

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Antwort von Kiara Borini:

"Jan" wrote: Man must say when you've recently saw an ad for a video camera? (I myself can not Errinnern)
If only yesterday digicam Canon 350 D!


Yes this stalking and cruelty to animals-display is omnipresent. Or am I verstehje wrong. With the D350 can shoot people with disabilities against their will to do experiments with frogs and it's just fun to get dust on the sensor ... ;-)

No, but seriously, is featured in popular magazines and Stillimage Digital Photo Print! indeed arrived, but video is not yet or no longer?

Sure, in the video magazines, which are, of course.

I must go soon old Brigitte & Co. browse specifically for it, but I do not remember the video ads or Redaktionstzeil - very well, however s.digitale photography.

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Antwort von mdb:

"Kiara Borini" wrote: What's up with video, that - according to my observations - the tastes of the masses does not seem to take it as a digital instant from the state has succeeded?

Because it is much more work. I know several colleagues, cameraman, does not touch the home video camera, very well, but a camera. I myself (am) as Bildtechniker well able to make fast a few times Photos of my children, although they are not art, but it shows what I've seen. But if I take the video camera, I know beforehand that I will be more disappointed. Once it is physical work, keep quiet camera to find the right setting, which can deduct all consistently and without drawing too. Afterwards, you irritated because you barely understand the sound (the sound man with the hook once again had no desire to take my children), the light looks like shit and if it all still needs to cut to make it bearable, one minutes reportage takes one hours cut, this is not really massentauglich. Apart from the fact that the technology will function not as straightforward as synonymous in the photo.

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Antwort von Markus:

Hi All,

I believe that the development away from the camcorder to the digicam was encouraged by the ever-faster moving: The work that is needed to capture moving images in accordance with the rules of art and then edit, discourages many from certain. Sonyhat is shown with his commercial for DVD camcorders: "Recording take out, watch" (no time-consuming DV editing, no soundtrack, just take take out, watch - and remember, because boring!).

For a digital snap of different (I can not call it what the majority of digicam users), I also observe the following: The digicam is a toy (not only) for adults and it is synonymous handled. As is often snapped hundreds of pictures, not because anyone really needs so many pictures, but simply because the card has such a high capacity.

Knowledge of composition, lighting or perspective, are either not or only insufficiently so far. In practice, I can even see that many digicam users by the trip did not look through the viewfinder or on the monitor, but the toys just keep free-snout in the respective direction ( "You can even delete the images that have become nothing ").

The photos will be viewed s.PC to get them there sooner or demonstrated. You will quickly clicked through, because the most meaningful patterns-and repeat endlessly. The majority of the images is wrong also exposed, light, blurred triggered accidentally, back again, ... And then next. All this with each 6 megapixels ( "What, only 6 megapixels?").

If the hard drive is full, the images are burned on cheap DVDs that after a few months ago are no longer legible. The photos are gone, but the user does not remember many digicam. The pictures had not been interesting enough to be brought out again. Moreover, now seems very thousand new images "nachgerutscht" ...

I'm curious where this development will still lead and when to reverse the trend? I would imagine that it will be announced sometime in the future to be able to create a technically perfect photograph or a video sequence on time dramatically flawless and mechanically durable media.

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Antwort von jens:

Hey Mark,
perceptive contribution.
It would be interesting perhaps is the question of what these millions of images in 10 -? Years time. Especially with personal photos (or snapshots of friends, etc., so yes, it seems to go most clippers), so the focus is on themselves at some time or remember that moment s.diesen / people. Today I have some pictures of example, my "ancestors" or from my childhood. For me it is interesting to look at them.
Perhaps suffocated but the big emerging flood of images (possibly worse Photos synonymous) then browse the desire to be. Or else it offers the luxury of a great choice.

In See Video with, I must say that I would be glad to have old footage of my "ancestors" or the like. But the pictures from my late childhood for me are of inestimable value. It may be that the photos are natural. But these moving images are simply times of life ... sowas

"Markus" wrote:
In practice, I can even see that many digicam users by the trip did not look through the viewfinder or on the monitor, but keep the toys simply reckless in the respective direction



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Antwort von Stefan:

The research work so s.KI-Fotoviewern. In future, these Programs are carefully put together and the photo albums, only the photos you want in an individual album. The first generation still working with slogans and image recognition, the next generation of photo albums offers me "more like this" buttons and "And now something else" and the third generation of approximately 2008 measures blood pressure and eye movements while viewing.

CU
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von jens:

O God, I'm afraid ...

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Antwort von Markus:

"Jens" wrote: It would be interesting perhaps is the question of what these millions of images in 10 -? Years time.
Hello Jens,

I like to browse synonymous of time to time in old pictures. Paper prints are pretty good, if not always synonymous super-colorfast.

I am afraid that with digital photos for many is still the great awakening. The burned DVDs may be stored for years before they are put back into the computer. And apart of the durability of this medium that has been discussed so many times: What about with the availability of suitable drives from? Will there be a 10 -? May still be years, DVD drives, today's DVD-5 to read? Perhaps someone can still read one 8 "Floppydisc that was commonplace 20 years ago? And the time is always fast-paced ...

... the

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