Infoseite // Motionflow 100Hz for HD preview important?



Frage von ArnAuge:


Hello,

Perhaps someone knows with the current Sony-made TVs. Consider me a zuzulegen for the HD preview. The considerably more expensive W-Series is in contrast to the V-series called Motionflow 100 Hz

I am now somewhat doubtful whether this feature (for HD viewing, progressive) makes sense. Had to say yesterday in the TV business that look horrible (; still) normal SD TV pictures on any LCD. For that I shall therefore keep my good long tubular crate.

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Antwort von Axel:

Basic idea to use a TV to preview: An editing suite is usually a table, standing on the monitors. From close range 22 "-24" monitors are slightly cheaper. Exist in Full HD for now at around 200 ¬, see Samsung and LG. They come synonymous with HDMI-in (; with HDCP), which makes them HD-ready TV and has already predestined as Blu-ray monitors.

An editing suite with a large TV set would have to look like the Peter Jackson of LOTR in the Making of of. The master, dressed in Bermuda shorts with floral lolling, on a leather sofa, munching potato chips and calls the cutter instructions to ...

The 100 Hz is a ploy to improve the movement representation. In contrast to the tube devices synonymous works especially with LCDs. 200 Hz are doing even better.

When you cut monitor while not thinking straight s.ein worst-case scenario, but we want to have it just as neutral as possible. When people with a standard 50 Hz TV set to tell you, you Hörmal, Arn, your video is jerky but quite properly, it serves you no answer to that funny, not with me.

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

Hello Axel,

thank you, that brings me to next time already.

My rationale was that it halt the LCD TV synonymous (for Browsing, 2-3 guests / customers can use) - because of the increased viewing angle. According to my level of information that is still the weak link in the 22 to 24-inch wheels.

Otherwise would be a 24-inch monitor with HDMI certainly quite sufficient for Demonstrate and later, perhaps equal to an HD-capable digital projectors.

Incidentally, it must be said once: I thank you for your always very profound contributions that have helped me many times next!

LG Arno

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Antwort von hkrull:

Hello Arno,
I have been synonymous with the question, especially since I wanted to have input like a component. Have myself a 32 "Full HD Sony LCD held a preview monitor, but all" Bildverbesserer "off to see the HDV footage natively as possible as possible. There is unfortunately no 24" monitors in a reasonable price range, without jerking can deal with 50Hz refresh rate and also offer a good viewing angle independence, in a higher price region> 900 ¬ for example, is the EIZO HD2442W such a device. So why not choose a preview for less money, on the synonymous to the final product will be shown again? With a slightly enlarged seat pitch is in my opinion, after a 32-inch full-HD to excellent.

Greeting hkrull

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

Then I suppose you have a model without the 100Hz motion flow and it is not synonymous missing?

For the consideration of Axel that it is not very helpful to demonstrate to customers the video on a reamed, special box and tuned it back home with the product is not happy, I agree fully.

I'll find you interesting information that can turn off the Bildverbesserer synonymous.

LG
Arno

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Antwort von hkrull:

Nee, is already the model with 100Hz Motionflow, but synonymous off. As already written, the section I want to see the material as warts, which are at 32 "Size Preview synonymous mercilessly smaller artifacts visible. But there are synonymous DV editing colleagues who use even a 40" TV as a preview monitor.

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

For me, last 32 "completely synonymous. Will keep track of and am sitting in the movies quite synonymous s.liebsten back ;-)

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Antwort von Axel:

"ArnAuge" wrote: ... 'm sitting in the movies quite synonymous s.liebsten back ;-)
New invective: In movies and rear-seat ...
Or name of a Lakota: The Movies in the back sits ...

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Antwort von hkrull:

Only your statement "Musste yesterday in the TV business say that ghastly look (; still) normal SD TV pictures on any LCD." I just can not be completely synonymous available. It probably is very much on the source. Ettlich TV programs of ARD, ZDF, 3sat and synonymous to the third party be sent in Spitzenmässiger SD-16 :9-quality. An accurate digital satellite receiver, or synonymous, an external digital cable tuner, the right seat pitch - and one sometimes feels barely watch SD TV. (; eg ARD - Myth forest s.22.06.09) is of course HD yet another leap forward, but a good PAL signal can certainly have it if the correct data rate and emitted is not oblivion, like many private channels the Picture .

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

@ Axel

Haha - since my first name synonymous to fit perfectly. Have reads that as much as "eagle eye" means. Then the seats Hinte synonymous makes no problem :-)

@ hkrull

That's interesting. Then do the Blödmarkt but no good with his low-signal source. Myth forest "of Jan prison is really the way an absolute highlight - the Mount Olympus for nature filmmakers.

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Antwort von Bespi:

"Axel" wrote:


The 100 Hz is a ploy to improve the movement representation. In contrast to the tube devices synonymous works especially with LCDs. 200 Hz are doing even better.


Panasonic and LG are now over 600 Hz Television. This verzwölffachen (;!) So a TV picture. According to test reports, but they are getting worse rather than Sony's 200 HZ.

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

Hello Bespi,

You happen to have a link? Test report on the issue would interest me of course.

To have a first thank you for your efforts!

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Antwort von Bespi:

Here is a description of 600 Hz + Panasonic http://www.panasonic.de/html/de_DE/Produkte/TV-Ger%C3%A4te/Plasma+Technologie/600Hz+ Intelligent Frame Creation + + Pro/673609/index.html # anker_673629 is

There is a detailed report on P50GW10. http://www.areadvd.de/hardware/2009/Panasonic_TX-P50GW10.shtml

On Page 2 you will find this paragraph:

"Comparison Sony200 Hz (technology, Sony KDL-Z4500) with the 600 Hz technology of the Panasonic and a conventional 100 Hz LCD (; Philips 42PFL9803)

* All systems have the task to ensure, through intermediate smoother, sharper and clearer representation of moving pictures
* This is best achieved with the Sony, it offers seamless movements in impressive sharpness.
* The Panasonic is ranked just behind it. From and to see the Interpolationstechnik (; very slight judder / flicker). Otherwise: Very good flow of movement, very good levels of visual differentiation, high motion sharpness.
* The Philips shows that synonymous, "only" 100 Hz technology can be perfect. He does not offer quite the motion sharpness of the other two devices, but very smooth, consistent movement and a good differentiation of different visual levels. "


The Panasonic still get an excellent rating. Toll in addition to the contrast value synonymous response of only 0.001 MS. Most television have a response of 2-8 MS.

It concerns with the 600 HZ equipment solely un plasma units. Since the sizes of 42 ranging up to 58 inches, they are for you but probably not suitable ;-)

LG Bespi

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Antwort von ArnAuge:

- I would not stop next slide behind ;-)

Super - thanks!

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Antwort von PowerMac:

Clearly we need 100Hz or even 200Hz. The monitor will display images, on average, as they will look at the audience. More and more people have a 100Hz television at home. There are more every minute. Therefore, it would be stupid not to check his pictures on such a device. I say control, not necessarily needs to be done constantly. Therefore, the 100/200/600Hz-Geschichte should be disengaged.

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