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Kinoformate 24 oder 25P

Movies formats 24 or 25P



Frage von frm:
Februar 2009

Hi leute,
I have a customer for a cinema advertising in FullHD 25 P created. That was until now synonymous the standard that I knew in digital movies. Now the operator told me it in the foreseeable future to hire new digital projectors were the only run with 24P. Can you imagine it, because if it is already digital, it should be rather more frames instead of less.
How would you convert the 25P to 24P of s.besten do? I have Adobe CS4 Production Premium.

mfg
Flo



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

An exciting topic, I'm already on the expertise of professionals in the forum excited ...



Antwort von xandix:

A new premiere project with 24 frames.
Because (the finished film?) Import into the Project and in the properties to make 24fps.
Follows Picture perfect.
If the sound the car to the premiere 25:24 ratio Images stretches, not good enough can be synonymous with an audio software (Sound Booth?) Make it sound good in any case








Antwort von frm:

That is what I have done, but find that it is sometimes choppy.
Should the currently 25P 39 Trailer Secündige of time not shorter?



Antwort von xandix:

Is not shorter but longer.

39 seconds x 25 frames = 975 FPS

975 frames divided by 24 FPS = 40 seconds + 15Frames

If it is jerky what went wrong.

It will be played exactly 975 images (in your timeline) just with only 24fps instead of 25fps ...... So it takes a little longer until all 975 images are shown.



Antwort von Valentino:

"frm" wrote:
Hi leute,
I have a customer for a cinema advertising in FullHD 25 P created. That was until now synonymous the standard that I knew in digital movies. Now the operator told me it in the foreseeable future to hire new digital projectors were the only run with 24P.
Flo

I think this is a rumor that the projectors nurnoch with 24Bilder run. From a purely technical point of view must be DC projectors with 48 images to bypass the DC no standard provides 25 images, I can well imagine that just something googelen.
The projector itself can be as good as any show frame rate, otherwise the devices would be for Liveveranstalltungen like football or opera transmissions undbrauchbar.
The DC server 25 pictures simply do not want to play, because he is in a playlist only material with the same frame rate can play.

That with the Project Import a 25p into a 24p project for not Speedup to one, but of a conversion of 25 pictures to 24 pictures, so probably the bucking synonymous.
If you have some time, just as 25p Project Export single sequence and then back into a 24p timeline import.
I would be the first with a few seconds in SD and then try how it looks.
But can you actually DC Komforme files yourself or makes a service provider for you or how does the clip on the server in the movies?



Antwort von PowerMac:

With the Apple Cinema Tools, you can simply conforme 25 @ 24. This is not a conversion, but only a new interpretation of the frame rate. This is synonymous a professional way when its 25p film FAZen want.



Antwort von frm:

The company where I use the cinema advertising in movie brine told me she is still 25 and 24P abspeilen can s.nächstes year, however, many cinemas umgeüstet and then only 24 P.
I can not synonymous, the presentation of synonymous because I think the future direction of more images say 50 P or so will go.
I have AE in a tiff sequence in 25P and exported it to the test in Premiere in a 24P sequence and then pulled the material to MPG to see displayed. In two places s.einer Stedycam trip I see a slight bucking what previously was not there. The sequence is like 39 sec Before unchanged.
Perhaps I try the whole thing directly into AE and Mach with a sub-composition in the 24P, I prefer the 25P. Then do I export of directly 24P.
What frame rate or format to give her the cinemas?



Antwort von WoWu:

@ Valentino

Quote:
But can you actually DC Komforme files yourself or makes a service provider for you or how does the clip on the server in the movies?

Easy DCP of Fraunhofer is a good and inexpensive solution.

As for the 25Hz has existed since the DC28 Specification V1.2 from March 2008 still no change. They are only 24 and 48Hz for 2k (4k anyway 24Hz only) are allowed. (Section 3.2)
http://www.dcimovies.com/DCIDigitalCinemaSystemSpecv1_2.pdf
Now I do not know whether the proposed extension to 25 and 30Hz, which of the EDCF has come on the ice, or whether there still is doing what.
But because the EDCF only with swords equipped blunt, I think it's rather not. May well be that this has been tipped.



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

I also do little commercials for the movie-Pre.
In the production manual is that I have a choice in the frame rate between: 24,25,30,50 and 60th One of them can I use as I wish.

Where is not the delivery of high-resolution videos, but of individual frames in numbered. Tga,. Tif,. Pict,. Jpeg,. Bmp,. Dpx or ppm / pnm in 1920x1080. Of these. Tga and. Tif preferred.

These frames are from the movie-advertising service processed with other advertising and then of the central body in various cinemas recorded.

I advise the Production Guide for Advertising Movies to arrange if you advertisements in the correct specification would like to deliver.



Antwort von frm:

Have I made yesterday.
In the stands the 24.25 and 30P are possible.
I will still try to convert properly in 24P.



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Then you should test times with FrameMaker Server and AviSynth and consorts depth employ, if you want quality produce.
It is for you to tap new opportunities in order ...

With a "transformation" in the video editing program that will not turn out well most peculiar, usually only make the Beginners!








Antwort von WoWu:

Regarding the manual times to ensure the issue date, because the DCI specifications are the official requirements!
Only then is, what server and what options increases in the cinemas are ....
And I question the Valentino of course, can only agree .... on the overall format was designed .... You can format with AviSynth and consorts produce?
Should I be surprised.



Antwort von frm:

I work exclusively with Adobe Production Premium and create Tiff sequences with separate wav files. I like Avi Framserver with Synt never heard ersellt. I understand why the synonymous not there should be better than with AE? However, I always create files that are 1920x1080 x25P




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