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Frage von Schneekind:


This is my first music video project.
"DAMN I AM - Where I Belong"



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Antwort von pilskopf:

In what format did you upload it? This has to go any better, would be a pity about the quality but would need much better than the Youtube version of his HD. This is too compressed.

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Antwort von Schneekind:

"pilskopf" wrote: In what format did you upload it? This has to go any better, would be a pity about the quality but would need much better than the Youtube version of his HD. This is too compressed.

640x360 as that
HD youtube jerky with me always.

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Antwort von Manuell:

Hi,
sorry if this sounds a little hard now, but for me this is the perfect example of video, why I am not going to film with this kind of cameras :-).

Hope you do not understand this wrong, it's ne good first job, but it seems to me very difficult to find the correct focus point and the rolling shutter does indeed synonymous not look tense.

I think the idea with the rest s.Anfang very cool, and then comes over well synonymous :-) gehts ab.

mfg
Manuel

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Antwort von pilskopf:

"Snow Child" wrote: "pilskopf" wrote: In what format did you upload it? This has to go any better, would be a pity about the quality but would need much better than the Youtube version of his HD. This is too compressed.

640x360 as that
HD youtube jerky with me always.

Does it matter if it was not with you and jerky at others? For whom do you do that video? For the tape or just for yourself? Then put it on private but if you want that someone good will, lad up a decent 720p version. This can start with you from a variety of jerk and not for others.

You turn with a 3000 ¬ Cam and then make a video into the net with a resolution as 20 years ago. I believe that a Nogo.

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Antwort von Zizi:

2nd level of action would be good! And of course, lighting, sharpness, you still ought to work on! Übern Sound and Shcnitt can argue ..
What have you used there for optics?

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Antwort von Schneekind:

"pilskopf" wrote: "Snow Child" wrote: "pilskopf" wrote: In what format did you upload it? This has to go any better, would be a pity about the quality but would need much better than the Youtube version of his HD. This is too compressed.

640x360 as that
HD youtube jerky with me always.

Does it matter if it was not with you and jerky at others? For whom do you do that video? For the tape or just for yourself? Then put it on private but if you want that someone good will, lad up a decent 720p version. This can start with you from a variety of jerk and not for others.

You turn with a 3000 ¬ Cam and then make a video into the net with a resolution as 20 years ago. I believe that a Nogo.


What are you a Nazi.

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Antwort von Sowbug:

"Snow Child" wrote: "pilskopf" wrote: "Snow Child" wrote: "pilskopf" wrote: In what format did you upload it? This has to go any better, would be a pity about the quality but would need much better than the Youtube version of his HD. This is too compressed.

640x360 as that
HD youtube jerky with me always.

Does it matter if it was not with you and jerky at others? For whom do you do that video? For the tape or just for yourself? Then put it on private but if you want that someone good will, lad up a decent 720p version. This can start with you from a variety of jerk and not for others.

You turn with a 3000 ¬ Cam and then make a video into the net with a resolution as 20 years ago. I believe that a Nogo.


What are you a Nazi.


sag mal gehts noch? what are you doing for a "kind"?

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Antwort von Manuell:

wow snow child now, but make semi-long time.
Pilskopf you only wanted to help, so look at your video and other synonymous to get the rational criticism, because the picture is quite muddy and in poor quality of many stop switch off quickly.

And that's a pity if it synonymous better. Above all, do not you want to present the best? Would be synonymous in the interests of the tape, for which you have the video rotated.

Sowas times I would tell my clients that I put the video online only at low quality, because otherwise when I am not running around :-)

And maybe you should understand erstmal what does the term Nazi, with such things before you throw at you.
NENENENE always the same so nen counterproductive behavior.

mfg
Manuel

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Antwort von Schneekind:

"Zizi" wrote: 2nd level of action would be good! And of course, lighting, sharpness, you still ought to work on! Übern Sound and Shcnitt can argue ..
What have you used there for optics?


Yes ne story would certainly have done well yet but for now I wanted to make only erstmal ne "live" performance.

I used 24mm 1.8 and 85mm 1.8.


@ Manual:
Thank you. So it sounds much more human!

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Antwort von Zizi:

Aja more thing: With a 24er one should not necessarily lead singer s.The go ..
The twisted, the face and has no good effect!
Sit next time a 50 1.8 An .. eh only costs 90 ¬ and it has the most natural representation for a video.

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Antwort von RocknRoyal:

All in all - I find it suffers from "good" - clearly, the very quality that's probably due to convert to network's - think it is synonymous of cutting her pretty consistent for the music, so I really have been seen worse must.

Gruss
Alex.

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Just as it is written manual, I mean it synonymous. Could you at least ask me if I'm a Nazi. So I once had for 10 years to the Iro and stand 15cm high was punk, now I've ne bald and I'm not a Nazi. Balding grow. : D But shouting Nazi is probably quite simple. I think you have no idea what it means to be reviled as a Nazi. I have of one day to the other of Iro switched to baldness. 1 weeks before I had nem me of Grandpa listen to the subway, that there had not been for me to Adolf. And then you will be shown 2 weeks later on the streets of the Nazi salute and the punks and other wannabe left look to your laces and you judge them only if you're a Nazi or not. Sorry for Offtopic but how Nazi is recklessly abused It beggars.

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Antwort von Manuell:

True words. I was once synonymous green hair and balding times is crazy how different it will be looked at :-)

Is surprisingly good as the one or the other with throwing around terms whose relationships / importance and impact are not aware of it.

So enough of that.

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Antwort von Sowbug:

sry but as someone who hits the ground without such a utterance (; and probably has no idea of the topic), I would not give further advice ...

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Antwort von pilskopf:

But because I am not a grudge and hatred is foreign to me, I would just like to see the video in good quality, to judge it, I know that the quality of your cam is simply brilliant and had me stop looking forward.

I also recommend you for the add on Firefox Greasemonkey, with this you can run scripts and then you'll catch from their database, a perfect Youtube script called "Youtube". Thus you should Youtube the HD videos distinctly smoother running, the script allows you synonymous as some other convenient download. as synonymous, there are other scripts for Youtube, but with whom I've made ganu good experience for me because Youtube synonymous jerky.

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Antwort von Schneekind:

Thank you! And excuse me.

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Antwort von pilskopf:

Keen thing to find the Vid, incidentally quite well. This already fits. Because of the DOF, I can hardly tell when the resolution was, indeed some have criticized. If the vid would be sharper, I would criticize the possibly synonymous but that's still a nice effect. It's for free you can not really complain.

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Antwort von Manuell:

Hach yet it is beautiful and now you can miss you here on my video :-)
http://forum.slashcam.de/trustgame-unplugged-vp360342.html?sid=2f56b538165420e8dac2795566faf488 # 360,342

mfg
Manuel

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

** OT **

Whether skins or punks - all the same Pak.
Politics does not make it through the clothes you wear.

Oh yes, I was once on the right anti-ner Demo - NEVER again ... With such people who can not behave I will have nothing to do or be seen.

If no preference just all clear which camp times and learn to appreciate policy to fight and with your funds, then the synonymous something!

Since no fear / hatred Parolles and not thrown stones and Randall to consumption.

Set times together you get better and see that it goes bad all of you and your like done before and does nothing ever will.
With me at home with friends and in the vicinity of the synonymous works well for many years - since the squat black and brown minded s.einem the table and discuss objectively and see at each other without being allowed access. Otherwise, I'd synonymous you jump bouncers.
(; Oh yes this works well for me synonymous with Kurds and Turks, Albanians or Serbs, and - only in Düsseldorf and Cologne, which I will have to date not yet dared to be invited testen.Die better yet separated)

** / ** OT


MfG
B. DeKid

PS: life is too short to make enemies too - PEACE.

And so now this should like to seize an admin in the OT to me no preference in kindergarten so I get the blank gray stories.

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Antwort von jogol:

"B. DeKid" wrote: ** OT ** Whether skins or punks - all the same Pak.

Equated with Nazi Punks is already a Klopper. Where do you live? Au weia ...

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"B. DeKid" wrote: ... learn to appreciate policy ... Since consumption no fear / hatred Parolles and not thrown stones and Randall to ...
You speak from my soul! Unfortunately, this desire will remain unfulfilled, because the idiots never die out. And stone-throwing now requires much less time than other brain with arguments to convince and win majorities - or accept synonymous only that one with his own view will not find a majority.

"jogol" wrote: ... Equated with Nazi Punks is already a Klopper ...
Read this posting again s.besten at rest, it will certainly realize how it was meant. The one left standing outside, the other is right outside, but tolerance, or intelligence, none of the two extremes written on their banners.

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Antwort von B.DeKid:

Ich habs posted directly into OT, where can therefore go next concerning whether to try to give both groups PAK

........................

Ah yes, the video and even gets you going, but quality could have put really high load. Have you yet so synonymous have to make an effort because they had to wait once synonymous halt ne night and uploaded the clip.

The tip with the Firefox plugs you should remember you, which is good.


MfG
B. DeKid

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: Equated with Nazi Punks is already a Klopper. Where do you live? Au weia ...
It reminds me a good one claim:
"Religion, patriotism, race, wealth, class, and any other form of arbitrary
Separatist recognition signs are used to create a controlled population in the hands of less perfectly malleable!

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Antwort von Schneekind:

Ohje what have I unleashed here.

So I'm neither left nor right, and in my environment, the term has nothing to do with politics, but is synonymous with "common" or something:)

Of course can not know everyone but it can save you a fundamental discussion here because of me.

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Antwort von Chezus:

Does anyone know the Seinfeld episode with the "Soup Nazi"?
The term appears often in shooting on synonymous if, for example, a teacher is very strict and very detailed drawing up guidelines that one can hardly statement.

So I would not even striking out so far

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Antwort von Daigoro:

Perhaps we should already know what we as chatters? Bit of thinking and research?
Or Medienverdusselung if punk is already the:


The video also s.mangelnder planning suffers.

The Lighting is 'Buehnenbeleuchtung' - a video for practically unsuitable.
Light to illuminate the background, while the really interesting times s.mal is switched off? Baeh.
The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.
The fog can save synonymous, if you can already work with low-DoF. Looks like nothing, and wafts through uncontrolled's Picture to additional unplanned Unschaerfeinseln formed. Baeh.
The framing is mostly boring and nixsagend.
The sharpened chases the object of desire, which often escapes to her much success.
The cuts could be more precise.

All in all, enough with strong potential for improvement.

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Antwort von Zizi:

Quote: The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.
So I remember not to?
So what you should look there?

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Zizi" wrote: Quote: The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.
So I remember not to?
So what you should look there?


They are (those ugly 'holy trinity' images and the) are in the video then even spread over 2 frames.
Highest third light-dark, sharp edge-middle-lower third-sharp edge has one synonymous with Stillimage bright flashlight in the film.
In live concert recordings you can not really prevent the rumblitzt any Hansel, but if it's under controlled conditions and with Stroboskopflackern is still enforced .....

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Antwort von Manuell:

@ Zizi missing the smiley with you?

When the strobe is in use, the picture has different bright areas, because of the rolling shutter and when the video is still very strong. So, for example, upper half lit already light from the flash, while the lower half of the picture is still dark.

mfg
Manuel

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Antwort von Schneekind:

is with the "holy trinity pictures" when in fact synonymous with CCDs is filming? I have read that is a problem of CMOS.

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Antwort von Manuell:

Yes exactly is a problem of CMOS, with CCDs that does not happen, so I prefer to live concerts, a CCD camera.

mfg
Manuel

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Snow Child" wrote: ... as that .. if synonymous with CCDs filming? ...
No, but CCDs suffer instead to "smear" those bright vertical lines that go out of light sources in the Picture.

"Snow Child" wrote: ... I read this is a problem of CMOS ...
Does - or more precisely of CMOS with just "rolling shutter". With CMOS with "Global Shutter" is the issue off the table, only those cameras are not yet arrived in affordable price ranges. An apparently quite viable interim way, Panasonic offers its HPX301: This camcorder can be masked out the unpleasant effects produced by lightning, so that the picture again looks like it corresponds to the visual impression.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

The rolling shutter is as far as I know, a CMOS feature:
http://www.internetvideomag.com/Articles_2008/032708_CMOSvsCCD.htm

But Stroboskopaufnahmen in general are rather 'tricky'. So that would look really good the strobe clock run synchronously with the shutter of the camera.
Sowas is better in the post-production, synonymous when it's not quite look for "natural" strobe light, but much 'stronger' brings the flicker.

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Antwort von Axel:

"Daigoro" wrote: So that would look really good the strobe clock run synchronously with the shutter of the camera.

The DJ asked how fast is the track, and (eg at 180 bpm then select a suitable shutter, "Clear Scan")? That is not necessary, it arises in any case, a frequency that still fits, at least in full-screen images. As with all overlapping frequencies but it is faced with the question of who selects one exposure. The automatic system would be a camcorder, depending on the stage, which we caught expose completely different. In manual exposure you have to decide.

"Daigoro" wrote: Sowas is better in the post-production, synonymous when it's not quite look for "natural" strobe light, but much 'stronger' brings the flicker.

The main effect of a good is not just a flickering strobe as such (; primitive optical recording) of the acoustic rhythm, but the 3D effect, which occurs when the flash lighting changes. Everything seems like a dramatic jerky movie you still plastic (; by highly directional flashes accompanied with a lot of shadow) and "provides tangible" before him. It is only with one cut-off Flackerfilter not simulated.

Quote: The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.

This effect, however, disturbs the only who is attentive to how in all. Here break completely free from gastric ulcers. The unsuspecting viewer perceives it as an effect with added appeal. There would be no CMOS RS-ID, would be the special effects-filled forum with questions, which is good plugin for it.

You mean in the video probably the punk speed camera at about 1:36. Has something of a VHS tape error or a vulture that sets itself to the rooftop antenna. Do not even notice the ordinary consumer.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Axel" wrote:
"Daigoro" wrote: Sowas is better in the post-production, synonymous when it's not quite look for "natural" strobe light, but much 'stronger' brings the flicker.

The main effect of a good is not just a flickering strobe as such (; primitive optical recording) of the acoustic rhythm, but the 3D effect, which occurs when the flash lighting changes. Everything seems like a dramatic jerky movie you still plastic (; by highly directional flashes accompanied with a lot of shadow) and "provides tangible" before him. It is only with one cut-off Flackerfilter not simulated.


The lighting can be even before the post up so that the 'results plasticity'. The Helligkeitsveraenderung afterwards.
The effort is expected to be low and the effect is stronger.

"Axel" wrote:
Quote: The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.

This effect, however, disturbs the only who is attentive to how in all. Here break completely free from gastric ulcers. The unsuspecting viewer perceives it as an effect with added appeal. There would be no CMOS RS-ID, would be the special effects-filled forum with questions, which is good plugin for it.


Yes, that may have a lot to do with visual perception. At times, when any wonder Aiptek Youtube videos are praised as 'excellent quality' a little.
We could probably all artisanal inadequacies as "effect with added appeal Watch", only good some of them-especially if they are used very deliberately-and many do not.

The 'casual observer', there is indeed not at all. We have all a certain color perception and visual habits synonymous.
The only Youtube Selfmadevideogucker sowas falls probably much less (and if at all) than to me as MTV & Cinema child with 'visual masterpieces of film and video art' (, * cough *; grew up) is.

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Antwort von camworks:

"Axel" wrote:
Quote: The strobes with related materiel rolling shutter? Baeh.
This effect, however, disturbs the only who is attentive to how in all. Here break completely free from gastric ulcers. The unsuspecting viewer perceives it as an effect with added appeal. There would be no CMOS RS-ID, would be the special effects-filled forum with questions, which is good plugin for it.
This is not your serious, right?

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Antwort von Zizi:

About dust / scratches are still synonymous with film complains and no one is even from trials as handlungsintensivierendes Stillmittel sodas hineingibt at Digital Productions is the effect it has on the seher seized on in years!
The same applies for CA in 3D where projects are already artificial filter to ensure that such "errors" are visible at all.
The RS is (to me at least really any film, if ever noticed) is negative!
I believe it was visible only to seek, the Dannacher?
But just everyone sees things differently ..

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Antwort von pilskopf:

At the end of the video of the rolling shutter already very clearly to the fore and will fall badly on me negative, I interpret this as a movie mistake. Within the video Uist me this but hardly not have noticed until seeing at least the first time. But the end just too much.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Zizi" wrote: About dust / scratches are still synonymous with film complains and no one is even from trials as handlungsintensivierendes Stillmittel sodas hineingibt at Digital Productions is the effect it has on the seher seized on in years!

Yes, of people who think that the much-sought 'to get film look' too. :)
My Lord of the Rings discs are dust and scratches, and thus even better than the movies. :)

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Antwort von Axel:

"CAMWorks" wrote: ... This is not your serious, right?

It is formulated only exaggerated. Snow child has cut the video so, has the bug so synonymous seen, and probably thought, oh, fuck the dog on it! I think the look of the video measured s.mutmasslichen well above average costs, etc., the RS-stop errors are characteristics of this technique. Authenticity. If we were in a scenic video is a kind of perfection, strive to show any technical errors that may counteract man and eliminate all kinds of lightning. Here, I like that, however, and I feel the goodness! And eieiei! As a petty Korinthenkackerei. That, ähhm, punk - the video was not smooth enough gentlemen.

Shallow DOF, and also by some false postpro are, strictly speaking, errors, so what? I see this mostly with the eyes of a cutter. A cameraman must have the courage to risk something to make the most of the etudes in honest professional perfection with one dead, sitting static material there. But this is OT, and closing it.

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Antwort von Daigoro:

"Axel" wrote: That, ähhm, punk - the video was not smooth enough gentlemen.

Even in the punk music is created, the 'graininess' is not through indiscriminate rumhacken distortion on the instruments, but by deliberate, twist and violate the 'norm'.
As a serious Soundcheck gladly take longer time than with the Berlin Philharmonic, or remains of the 'Effect' nix uebrig - just like in the video. : P

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Antwort von Axel:

"Daigoro" wrote: "Axel" wrote: That, ähhm, punk - the video was not smooth enough gentlemen.

Even in the punk music is created, the 'graininess' is not through indiscriminate rumhacken distortion on the instruments, but by deliberate, twist and violate the 'norm'.
As a serious Soundcheck gladly take longer time than with the Berlin Philharmonic, or remains of the 'Effect' nix uebrig - just like in the video. : P


Everything was not deliberate. That all this flickering when turning s.war, does not feel very useful. It's not a good strobe, just as a light organ repairmen. At the next level of commitment to it (to do it right, or) after appropriate experience through many similar situations, would undoubtedly have reached after a few tests, the decision to examine thoroughly the light on the impact point synonymous forever, and would thus one of RS no longer seen.

I wrote "measured s.mutmasslichen effort", not "in Comparison with all the masterpieces of film history", the result well worth seeing. I did not write, people who matter to you not about the RS problem. Okay?

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