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Frage von Randoms:


I'd like to ask if anyone tinkers here synonymous with Soundtrack Pro s.Audiofiles and is well versed with EQing?
I speak a comment by NTG-2 and audio interface in Soundtrack Pro s.MAC. My interception, the HS 80 of Yamaha.
I now noticed that my comment (my voice) to listen to traditional TVs but rather bass-heavy, so there is already more oomph in his voice as sweet to me.
After the problem I've been on the track I wanted to ask if anyone feels like a language file of making me the EQuing.
Ideally, with Soundtrack Pro and the Channel EQ as Example
I hope this was easy to learn. At best I hope for a preset created specifically for my voice on the channel EQ as the BSP, or aufzuschnappen just a few tips.

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Antwort von Pianist:

So in principle, the Recording not bad. I have that now belongs to four different listening: Geithain Small, medium Geithain, flat TV and then via headphones (Beyer DT 770 Pro). And I come to the conclusion that the sound recording is perfectly okay. Everything you can with your simple technique hardly reach. "Bass-heavy" is there at least nothing.

You can do it anyway never do all right. Depending on the listening situation, it just always sounds a little different. You can only try to create a solution that fits for all kinds of play situations to some extent. Perhaps people have so s.ihrem Television purely rotated too much bass.

More than in EQ, you should you still worry about the issue of compressor and limiter. The signal is still not tight enough and has too many swings upward. But please do not overdo synonymous, which is otherwise too intrusive and too hard.

That you have a slight regional coloring in it, as you know yourself, but that does not matter as long as it's not for very large audience.

Matthias

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Antwort von Randoms:

Hi Matt!

The "slight regional coloring" has amused me extremely grateful for the expression. Since you can not understand this Basslastigkeit is my "misconduct" probably s.der incorrect use of the Compressor plug-ins. You rewrite with the "can easily sound too pushy ".... that is the case. The sample file I clean but left because I thought I make the mistake when EQuing.
Before we move to Comp I grab a file now plays with EQ and screenshot to the mp3 in the zip.

As the sounds on your monitor speakers?
Is that better or worse in your opinion?

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Random" wrote: As the sounds on your monitor speakers?
Is that better or worse in your opinion?

I like the unedited version better. The edited sounds too "sharp". But let's see what others do.

Matthias

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Antwort von david2:

Yes, this bothers me synonymous s.meisten tip. Come clear of the 4 kHz / +3.9 dB. This is the frequency of the S-sounds "inherent". Not for the (with higher slope) slightly lower (3.2 kHz, - 4 dB, I guess). Better course would be a de-esser (under Dynamics, compressors, etc.).

For greater transparency, however, would do about 6 .7 kHz / + 3 .4 dB well.

The Basslastigkeit bothers me now is not quite as (DT 770). Possibly. no high-pass filter but is not completely cut off, take and attaches a little higher (320 Hz).

Happy New Year with the atomic number 11 of all hand!

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Antwort von Randoms:

Here again, the third version but without EQ with Compressor.
Mp3 and again as the settings of the comps as a screenshot.

If the compressor too harsh?

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Antwort von Randoms:

The tip was not bad, I've now tried the following times.
I've disabled all plug ins, and ONLY use a low shelving EQ. The frequency is set at 320Hz and adjusted gain 5db.

Otherwise, my micro actually sounds pretty good I think.
I guess I s.das 320Hz with this proximity effect in binding synonymous, which is probably the core of the problem.
Thanks to this point ...

At the Compressoreinstellung, of Example 3, is that too much or ok?
Speech levels between -12 and - 6 dB - that is the target for TV
So I have the limiter set to -6 and the threshold of the comps to -12

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Random" wrote: Here again, the third version but without EQ with Compressor.
I think that's already pretty good.

But you can even try the following alternative: place the Ratio control to the right, the Attack control to zero. You can be the threshold to the 12.5 dB and can release the control to synonymous as it is. The limiter threshold alternate views all the way up to zero dB, the fact you have hardly any because the compressor has now acts as a limiter.

With you the limiter is working too hard and the compressor is too weak, so it's a little "doll" to.

Now I ponder just how we get the consonants a little softer ... This may be simply s.Microphone or s.Deiner sharp debate.

Matthias

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Random" wrote: Speech levels between -12 and - 6 dB - that is the target for TV
This is not the whole truth ... :-)

If you want to actually manage a substandard level television, then you need a corresponding analog VU, is a RTW usual 1206th Since you then levels a way that you reach the 0 dB as often as possible, but never exceed test. In the digital world, then the -9 dB FS.

Relevant is the first but if you have a finished movie as a Digibeta or the like play them. If you then einjodelst times with a kilohertz-level tone system, then the -9 dB to -18 dB on the RTW precisely meter the Digibeta.

For TV purposes, I would but overall a different solution for voice recordings favor, such as a Neumann TLM 103 and then some signal-processing devices of ADT-Audio. For this I would need to go back a bit next. Really good voice recordings are not easy.

Matthias

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Antwort von handiro:

the tip with the high pass filter was the correct one.

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Antwort von Randoms:

[Quote = "pianist"] "Random" wrote:

Now I ponder just how we get the consonants a little softer ... This may be simply s.Microphone or s.Deiner sharp debate.

Matthias

Yes, the Aussprache....and / or microphone placement!

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Antwort von beiti:

Still s.Rande an idea: Could it be that the "Basslastigkeit" something with the resonant behavior of the Television special speaker has to be done?
There are still at cheaper and / or worn display devices often times the effect that the sound to "rattle" at a certain frequency tuning begins. So you see on TV such as a talk show with five people, and only the voice of those parties, the error occurs, because their voice very often take the natural frequency of the speaker housing.
Could what he calls a similar cause is based, only holds in a weaker form?

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Antwort von Randoms:

Yes not all that small speakers are built into the modern equipment, low tones not seem to map well.
As it rattles quickly or deafened, vibrates ...
Me, this is not only s.einem device struck. The low voting shares in the voice overs cause then. Sure, rattling my monitor speakers and deafened, but most people just look at these "normal" TV devices. I want to be the problem sir. It seems to me a combination of strong Compressoreinstellungen and a proximity effect, which adds up to then. Sounds rumbles, too close, too intrusive.
I must look, then I turn off the proximity effect is too low tones by Filter and the comp just timid use.
You've helped me a piece of next.
Thank you!

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Beiti" wrote: Still s.Rande an idea: Could it be that the "Basslastigkeit" something with the resonant behavior of the Television special speaker has to be done?
There are still at cheaper and / or worn display devices often times the effect that the sound to "rattle" at a certain frequency tuning begins. So you see on TV such as a talk show with five people, and only the voice of those parties, the error occurs, because their voice very often take the natural frequency of the speaker housing.
Could what he calls a similar cause is based, only holds in a weaker form?

Of course. Unwanted resonances are always very ugly, which affects not just television speakers, but entire rooms. I meet with my voice, for example, exactly the resonant frequency of my toilets (not the Klobeck, but the room in which the toilet is). Since I was on the toilet but do not usually speak, is not that bad.

Matthias

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Random" wrote: You've helped me a piece of next.
I can reassure you: I am working for more than 20 years with voice recordings and am still not satisfied.

Matthias

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