Frage von kowi:
The outlook for new AVCHD cams of Canon, Panasonic and Sony power Appetit! Card as a medium of the future, full HD and Resolutionund and .....
Unfortunately, most of the Viewfinder - a shortcoming which I found absolutely from the purchase of Cam capacity. Similarly, for some the lack of connections for Micro and Headphones. For me, absolute n.Kriterien for the device.
What is your opinion?
Antwort von Jörg:
What is your opinion? just ...
Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:
At my FX1 is a first class display appropriate, even in direct sunlight or a well-known picture shows. The viewfinders I do not think so good. If the only black and white would ... sigh ... for the work "by hand" is synonymous Viewfinder unfavorably appropriate because I have the camera far away do next. Therefore, I use freehand and Tripod from 90% to the display.
Thus, all depends on what you get for a display and camera s.der where it is mounted. Helps only try :-(
Micro connector do I find indispensable. If the camera which makes auto Tonaussteuerung only (no manual option), the headphone port would perhaps unnecessary.
BG
Andreas
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Lack of connections for Micro and Headphones. For me, absolute n.Kriterien ... It is always holding on to the individual requirements: one would never have a camcorder with no microphone input buy the other one did not know what he should begin, if one would be available. The latter group is likely much greater, and then directed the cameras Manufacturer in this category is. Personally I see the same as you, which is synonymous to Viewfinder is concerned. Then ask the same S / W-tube! ;-)
Gruß Bernd E.
Antwort von WoWu:
It seems as if the industry is the consumer segment and want more delimit an upscale segment (of course, synonymous to other prices) between the Consumer and Pro-Sumer revoke want.
Then indicate synonymous utterances of the marketing people out of the company. This should then, however, synonymous in the interfaces and although the impact of common interfaces to the DSP's additional (electric) are available, they are simply not led to the connection.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Knowi
... and that with the "full HD" resolution, which again look closely ....
Antwort von r.w.t.f:
@ Knowi
... and that with the "full HD" resolution, which again look closely .... .... - The first hard drive camcorder of Canon - they draw in a Resolutionvon AVCHD 1920 x 1080 pixels on SD / SDHC cards on ..... this is not "full HD resolution?
Antwort von kowi:
Also, according to my humble knowledge, it is so, is it?
Antwort von WoWu:
The information concerning the image sensors indicate any event that does not, they suggest that in 1920 s.Output can be calculated by interpolation.
It does not matter what Viedeoauflösung s.Output attached, but as the Picture is created, because there is the quantity of specified details.
Even the notion
FullHD is a pure marketing name and says nothing other than that the device s.Ein or output signal with a 1920 can handle. It does not imply that the signal originated as synonymous must be scanned. Strictly speaking, you could be an SD signal "aufpusten" is that you can spend as 1920 and so wert "FullHD". So beware what you buy but that is synonymous currently no real difference between 1440 and 1920, because all the HDV cameras are synonymous sold as 1920x1080, but consumers quickly mitgekriegt, that is really "fake" and is the child's real name mentioned. Now it is back with "FullHD".
Antwort von kowi:
According Slashcam
http://www.camcorder-test.com/camcorder-what-i-cmp-u-cmd-i-view-u-mode-i-docompare-u-sortb-46cae06a973b9a94fa76753bc5383ec7.html:
Video resolutions: AVCHD 1920 x 1080/50i
AVCHD 1920 x 1080/25p
What is apparent, which in 1920 are inflated from 1440?
Antwort von WoWu:
The test's are usually not worth the paper on which they are written.
Look at times the image sensors to ... and tell me how to make out since 1920 will.
Forget the tests, the only synonymous Brochures depreciate.
Antwort von kowi:
ok:
Image Sensor 1 / 3, 2 "CMOS
- Total pixels 3.31 MegaPixel
- Effective pixels for video 2.07 MegaPixel
FullHD: 1920x1080 -> 2,073,600 pixels
And now?
Antwort von WoWu:
With 1-chip cameras you reckon about 30% down for the Bayer mask.
Even the chips are not built in 16:9 but still 4:3, so you come to another usable pixel area. In addition, you land with the pixel pitch with a sensor, which not even 1 / 3 "has approx. 2.5 ym ... with the corresponding consequences for Picture's and the usability of the visors.
Therefore, the inevitably high resolutions with the sensor size to 1 / 2 "and more.
But maybe yes Canon makes the balancing act ... look the part and have a look at ...
Antwort von kowi:
But maybe yes Canon makes the balancing act ... look the part and have a look at ... Mach I (although they do not have viewfinders!) - Unfortunately, the only part in April in dire shops.
Antwort von Jan:
Among the searchers are huge differences that must be borne in mind.
A real good SW with viewfinders Resolutionist worth something.
The Consumer viewfinder are colored (sometimes bad for focusieren) and often have a maximum 120,000 pixels. This is a manual work badly. Today's LCDs of the good models are already useful in daylight, you may just not with the cheap LCDs compare.
I can understand the companies already understand, the decision to the consumer models omit the viewfinders. If I then times with customers coming out, max 5% have ever through a Viewfinder geblickt.
In the professional world looks different from the case, I use the SW viewfinders of PD 170 permanent, but the length is sharper than the crutches of the consumer world.
The microphone input is important in my opinion, but of the consumer customers, I know very few who actually has an external microphone to use at least the customer, where the camera is below 1500 ¬. This looks similar to the industry.
You may not be the people here in the forum as a benchmark, here are committed to, the normal customer will not synonymous viewfinders and no 3.5 mm microphone jack, I see every day in the company, because you can talk as you like - no.
VG
Jan
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Jan
I can well understand the synonymous .... synonymous and therefore understand that the industry as a "smaller" consumer shift recoveries synonymous and I think that this is the playground of the 1 / 3 "and 1 / 4" sensors and will be in the next class, (with Viewfinder) then s .1 / 2 "up. I think those are all very sensible move.
@ Kowi
Eventually a start and with the many pixels that have the chips and maybe a binning, synonymous full Resolutionin reasonable quality. I would Canaon not only trust, but synonymous wish ... maybe it's already such a part.
At least I think it is a very clever solution, as reflected in the Vormodellen with the "quasi" variable ND have prevented the dim and so cleverly circumvented the aperture diffraction have.
Smart solutions, Canon has always had it.
Antwort von PowerMac:
In my opinion, are either high-resolution viewfinders and cost 5000 Euros (fresh baguette) for use s.großen cameras, or they are useless and shit. In comparison, okay, the viewfinders of the DVX100 or the HVX (hard bread). The PD170 or Z1 (moldy bread) on the other hand, as I feel totally bad. The Viewfinder a little Furzkamera (no bread) in the $ 500 class is a component, the manufacturer will cost money, but it is useless.
But as it sometimes: rather than no bread moldy; fresh rather than hard, no better than fresh when it is sick or moldy rather than hard to be angry mom.
Antwort von r.w.t.f:
Does anyone understand this now? Or was it created encrypted?
Antwort von radiohead3:
Does anyone understand this now? Or was it created encrypted?
why? he has with every word right. why ordinary viewfinder more expensive than many camera?
Antwort von kowi:
After the thread is now in "greater heights" is entfleucht do I sign up again as an author to speak:
Make a Viewfinder in professional field as an otherwise afford a Viewfinder gehobeneren ConsumerCam (No "Furzkamera"!) - So there is certainly striking price differences.
I even movies about viewfinders because the focus on what is happening is simply better (detail ...) and consequently a better cinematic synonymous result can be achieved - such as the "Gewackel" of freehand Monitor filmmakers, the "high waves" generate and the viewer to bring spout.
The image sharpness, I must still leave the automatic - certainly not yet synonymous term profit.
Antwort von Jan:
@ Powermac, of course you're right!
I just wanted to express, between a consumer 500 ¬ Camera Viewfinder and the PD 170 is already worlds. Of course, it's still much better, have since been synonymous in the viewfinders on the class of the PD 170 compatriots - such as the JVC DV 5100th
Of course, it's even better, for example, 1.5-inch monochrome CRT viewfinder of the SonyDigibeta Group - unfortunately, no eye risked because too expensive for me .....
VG
Jan
