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Panasonic 150 mit Beyerdynamic 86:

Panasonic 150 with Beyerdynamic 86: "Sound soup



Frage von BRIGITTE SAAL:
September 2005

Hi, as a newcomer I have only 1000 Fragen.Hier times 2.I have bought me a Panasonic 150 and now an even Beyerdynamic 86 Micro.Die first test images show a considerable Klangsuppe.auf the audio track I can see that the rash far too high ist.Was must I do to get a good sound result?
And then in some situations, a video light quite well, but where I'm taking the firm? In the hot shoe already puts the Micro.Wäre very grateful for an answer. LILLY



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

404ERR



Antwort von Markus:

Hello Brigitte or Lilly ;-)

Beyerdynamic of what 86 is talking about? The MCE 86 S II Cam? Indeed, there are several versions with this number ... See What microphone for recording of such concerts?

Specify the term "sound soup" please take a closer. The possible microphones (see above) have directional characteristics, ie they should give priority to record sound scenery in front of the camera. How does this represent in your microphone?

You see on the soundtrack (in the video editing program?) That refuses the sound level too high? What does "too high"? Is clipping the sound recording?

To your question, the accessory shoe with a look at the contributions of the following times:
" Blitzschuh s.Camcorders
" microphone distance Enlarge








Antwort von GhostDog:

Thanks for your answers, Constantino, and Mark, the recording situation was as follows: Opening of the exhibition, speeches, many people, large spaces with high ceilings. My MICRO is the MCE 86 S CAM.Habe my camera again put under the microscope and found that I can put on the external Micro QUIETLY. But, as with the headphones is meant, I can correct it next apparently not at or is it only when the camera is connected to the mixer? "No, I could indeed fix flaw synonymous nothing, or do you? if so, how.
YES, this is called are probably overridden when almost no spikes seen on the soundtrack, everything blue. If we now re-import the tape, one can adjust something there to get the sound slightly differentiated hinzukriegen? The expert probably shudder at my amateur Ausführungen.Man let me verzeihen.Ich think it's so great that there is this forum, thank you



Antwort von GhostDog:

Hello Brigitte "Lilly" Hall,

"Anonymous" wrote:
Thanks for your answers, Constantino, and Mark, the recording situation was as follows: Opening of the exhibition, speeches, many people, large spaces with high ceilings.


So you have lots of atmosphere (ambient noise) with on it?

"Anonymous" wrote:
My MICRO is the MCE 86 S CAM.


Top part good choice!

"Anonymous" wrote:
Have my camera again put under the microscope and found that I can put on the external micro QUIET.


Is to hire an input attenuation, or an attenuator, for example, if you _only_ need what is in front of the mic, and not also the rest of the world.

"Anonymous" wrote:
But, as with the headphones is meant, I can correct it next apparently not at or is it only when the camera is connected to the mixer?


The headphones have nothing but pure garnix synonymous with the mic or do the input signal, but it is very useful if you (the sound that walks in that acoustically want to check), so if the mic close enough s.Deinem "Actor" (Child, hedgehog, motor ,...)'s turn.
Even if it resonates too much, etc.
You can as a human sound Weghören ", for example, falls into a pub you s.Nebentisch in conversation with your babbling drunks on the opposite not, but all characterized Cam mercilessly, therefore, a headphones for a good sound as a monitor is quite important . Make way, the musicians (with the so-called monitor speakers are directed towards the stage-synonymous).

"Anonymous" wrote:
No, I could indeed fix flaw synonymous nothing, or do you? if so, how.


??

"Anonymous" wrote:
YES, this is called are probably overridden when almost no spikes seen on the soundtrack, everything blue.


Rather _unter_steuert when no sound is there, so the mic was on "sensitive" ... contradicts itself, but with your "sound soup", where one can assume dasss all but synonymous _wirklich alles_ is on the soundtrack on it with ... explain again.

"Anonymous" wrote:
If the tape is now re-imported, because you can adjust the sound to something a bit more differentiated hinzukriegen?


If nothing on the tape is on it, you can alter nothing.
Of course, you can raise the level, then you lift, but _all_ of sounds, nothing sophisticated, it will stop everything just a little louder.

"Anonymous" wrote:
The specialist probably shudder at my amateur Ausführungen.Man me verzeihen.Ich might think it's so great that there is this forum, thank you


Yes, we find synonymous great: o))
BTW: I, too, until recently, was still a layman, but this forum has helped me a lot, every day a little more fit to be, especially since I, the insights gained here in my daily work as a video reporter for a regional station daily practices applying.

Gruß Olli
* Knowledge is power .*



Antwort von rtzbild:

Sorry forgot to sign * grumble *

Gruß Olli
* Knowledge is power .*



Antwort von GhostDog:

OLLI HELLO, thank you for your Antwort.NEIN, it is not sound because too little but just the opposite, just as many rashes that have no teeth to see more inapproachable Micro I bought because I've been reading various posts in the forum that you do not save because sollte.Siehi in the combination of very funny rather than s.Micro Camera Micro s.Camera.lieben greeting Brigitte



Antwort von rtzbild:

"Anonymous" wrote:
OLLI HELLO, thank you for your answer.
NO, it is not sound because too little but just the opposite, just as much rash that no waves are to see more.
The Micro I bought here because I've read several posts in the forum that it is not as it should save. Considers the combination of very funny rather than s.Micro Camera Micro s.Camera.
Nice greeting Brigitte


Hello Brigitte, now there is a little clearer.
BTW: The system recognizes here synonymous spaces after punctuation and Enter keys for the break.

So the input level is too high.
Mach mal trial the following:
Mic Polar pattern to provide, if possible.
Attenuator over the menu to activate the action.
Test recording (sound) by making Headphones.
Use (partner, radio, or "known" source of noise in order to compare the audio with the reality of access).
The headphone output synonymous if necessary, adjust times, either by menu or control wheel.

The whole then again with the built-in mic, with or without attenuator.

Then give me, what's up.

Possibly. Senn, the built-in amplifier, the powerful db's in the Cam has pumped ...

If you find a VU meter can enable (level indicator), it should be the peak level between -12 and -6 dB are override higher level.

Ahem: Are you sure that you are the right mic input've taken?
Possibly. You synonymous "Line" or something similar, as are other values, know what, I do not, but at least it all fits together is not!

Gruß Olli
* Make * XLR Cable



Antwort von GhostDog:

HELLO OLLI,
BTW, TRANSITION, I know not what the ist.Was the mic input is concerned, I've got little choice and I think there nothing wrong gemacht.Werde me to take your proposal to the heart and tame a few test shots machen.Meine impatience (I And although you want everything at once).
liebe Grüße Brigitte



Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Hello Brigitte,
I sign up again shortly, where it has been largely synonymous already answered. So headphones you can connect synonymous s.deiner Cam, possibly synonymous via AV-out, etc.! Better, as already written, it is to build a small mixer, or even a Potty (themselves) to be used. But then I think that you want to do especially Spontanaufnahmen, more likely to own, is that too much effort!
You need time to see if your overloaded synonymous camcorders internal microphone. I do not even take it. Then, the microphone has a built-in (pre-) amps! But he needs electricity!
Either your camera then provides the necessary current, or the microphone has a Battery / Battery!
But your camcorder or internal microphone clipped total! Then it is s.der Camera and probably s.einer attitude!
Normally you can set in the small camcorders in the menu that you want to control the sound auto or manual. With the large Cams goes directly over controllers s.der Camera!
There you should then see the db synonymous Pay! Some camcorders also have even an equalizer.
Or else, it is not s.beiden, so it is no menu's, and it is not s.dem Amplifier: n.oder Then I saw your camera is broken;)

Your Microphone is actually just a stereo mic, eh? Then I understand even less: - /

Well, as Olli has already been written, easy to test once, then next see!

Apropos, I have the Panasonic NV MX-300, since you can adjust all of this. Until equalizer, the car goes!
I use in documentaries and interviews with two other assistants always a mixer!

I hope you could at least help a little next ... : - /

Love Greetings
Constantin



Antwort von GhostDog:

Thanks Constantine I'll try once and then report heartiest regards Brigitte



Antwort von rtzbild:

"Anonymous" wrote:
HELLO OLLI,
BTW, TRANSITION, I do not know what that is.
As for the mic input is concerned, I've got little choice and I think there nothing wrong. Get me your proposal to take to heart and make a few test shots. Tame my impatience (I want everything and can indeed immediately).
liebe Grüße Brigitte


Hello Brigitte,

Wrap ie, press the Enter button s.Zeilenende times, then the cursor one line next slide and the new set starts at the beginning of a new line. [ENTER]
Does that make easier to read. [Space] If, of course, synonymous for small spaces after punctuation. [Enter]
Expl: Text [punctuation.: Etc] [space] text.

Zu8 your cam:
Mach mal halt test shots dan we look next.
Note: Manual already perused?

Can: The best thing is to know the "tool" BEFORE the twist, rather than afterwards to try to save anything.

Is synonymous helpful if the rotational something goes wrong, this is one synonymous to control the buttons and switches, so you do not have to look up during the middle of recording, what does "this strange flashing up there on the screen. o))

Well, practice makes perfect.

And another tip:

Take s.Batteries always DOUBLE the amount needed Batteries and cassettes with which you believe to be.

Works already: o)

Gruß Olli








Antwort von GhostDog:

HEllo Olli,
good, with the spaces and the upheaval and so?
I now do my diploma in: how do I write a decent
on my Computertastatur.Ertappt, I'm not just
Video frischling computer novice but synonymous. But, I am learning every day about this and it's fun.
Brigitte soon



Antwort von Markus:

Hello Brigitte,

See your description ("... almost no waves on the soundtrack to ...") I gather from the pictures that you have already transferred to the calculator (you gecapturet). There are thus two possible sources of error and we need to know s.welcher place of the sound was unusable: Perhaps he has been wrongly recorded? Perhaps he was only overridden when capturing?

Clasp your camcorder once s.den to Television. What impression do you have the original? - Is the O-Sound s.Television already overloaded, then the recording is corrupted and therefore unusable. When overdriven sound can be saved any more.

If the O-Sound but ok, then something went wrong when capturing. Did you have the camcorder connected via firewire with the computer and save the images using video editing software or capture tool on the hard drive? - Or you had the camcorder via analog AV cable zBseine TV card connected?

See synonymous:
FireWire FAQ">Camcorder / recorder s.PC connect and capture images



Antwort von GhostDog:

Thanks for your help Mark
I did the film with Magix drawn on the Calculator.
As the television is concerned, I have no input as video,
I have anywhere else to try. Register me if I
Results have, with many thanks Brigitte



Antwort von rtzbild:

"Anonymous" wrote:
HEllo Olli,
good, with the spaces and the upheaval and so?
I now do my diploma in: how do I write a decent
on my Computertastatur.Ertappt, I'm not just
Video frischling computer novice but synonymous. But, I am learning every day about this and it's fun.
Brigitte soon


Jaaaaaa, supi: o)))

And now you must think you a fine name, synonymous in Vilksmund "Nick", so called as "Gitt'che", or "Cam Girl" or whatever, if you then registering, then you can put yourself right in the picture with Nick and password login and have more opportunities here in the forum. For example, you will be informed by email if anyone has replied to your questions.

Nuja already work, just do not hold as much Tippex on the screen if you have prescribed for you: o))
* and * duck

Gruß Olli

* Today, times have been ringing on the road for no reason *



Antwort von GhostDog:

HELLO OLLI,
nice that you take me laugh. Thanks




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