Infoseite // Panasonic AG-HMC 151



Frage von VV11:


Hello,
For some time Sonyspekuliert in the media even before the on the market since about the oh-so-spectacular NXCam of, there are tests of prototypes and accolades over the first ProfiCAM with AVCHD.

I ask myself all the time, why is the Panasonic AG-HMC 151 of embezzling as easy? The fact that's the first ProfiCAM or prosumer Cam records in AVCHD, and even in the fairly good quality!
So far there is not one of Slashcam meaningful test of this camera, let alone that time someone had the idea of the two camcorders (HVX-NX5 and AG-HMC151 would be compared) with each other.
Because the cameras are available as compared to more, if not these two.

The HMC151 now I had ever been for a few days for testing and for production, together with an HVX201 and say must, I was amazed of the quality and the quantity of data at very low: about 1:45 hours with 1080i material at the HMC 8.2 GB on an SD Card and with about 80 GB of HVX on P2 cards.
Qualitatively, I have after Zusammenschneiden and render no optical differences can determine.

I am as a video journalist and event videographers currently looking for a new camera with solid state media, I would be so very happy for a comparison of the two cameras of Sonyand Panasonic.

Regards

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Antwort von deti:

"VV11" wrote: I ask myself all the time, why is the Panasonic AG-HMC 151 of embezzling as so simple?
Because Panasonic has not managed to build a full-HD system. In the camera sensors are fitted with 960x540 pixels - that's beyond the pale by today's standards. Of course Resolutionnicht is everything, but apparently Panasonic with its (semi-) professional products with the sensors always a little behind off.

http://www.expandore.com/e_shop/GY_HM100VSAG_HMC150.htm

"But, few frames might be dropped between files recorded by AG-HMC150.

Therefore, continuous recording without break over the maximum file size for AG-HMC150 is useless even with these nonlinear editing system supporting AVCHD codec natively "
...
"AG-HMC150 count resolution is significantly decreased due to less pixels (960x540 pixels)."

Deti

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: And must say I was impressed of the picture quality

And rightly so. Do not wait for tests in life are no test pictures, no unqualified statements about "mud images,"
any unfinished discussions on Pixelshift etc pp.
In life, the result, a good result is achieved by dividing itself deals with the object, it to know, set learns to understand, learn.
It is not enough to comment on pictures to test, and maintain a personal aversion to ... pixel count, test pattern testers Schärfegurus that come out of excitement not to look at times the gradation of this lens to appreciate the colors, etc.

btw synonymous, the 151/171 has a few quirks, but have nothing to do with the image quality to ...

So do not let yourself be tamed, do not trust your impressions, will make a mistake with.

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Antwort von SteffenUp:

.. because you see it! It will not welcome here because it has too few pixels :-)

Well, I would be happy synonymous with a Comparison of the two models, even though I already am satisfied owner of an HMC-151st

Though Panasonic is working with pixel shift, but the picture is what comes out the s.end Entscheidente, Or?
This makes me even more Pixelzählerwahn all :-)

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Antwort von VV11:

"SteffenUp" wrote: .. because you see it! It will not welcome here because it has too few pixels :-)

Well, I would be happy synonymous with a Comparison of the two models, even though I already am satisfied owner of an HMC-151st

Though Panasonic is working with pixel shift, but the picture is what comes out the s.end Entscheidente, Or?
This makes me even more Pixelzählerwahn all :-)


That's what I see as synonymous, who really need full HD? So for TV productions, I always deliver more from PAL 720x576, but now in anamorphic 16:9.

Picture my subjective impression of the HMC was very good.

Would they still have time Sonyverglichen with the new.
After all, are synonymous around 1000 euros between them.

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"VV11" wrote: ... She wants to still have time Sonyverglichen with the new. After all, are synonymous around 1000 Euros in between ...
Why would arguably be the SonyAX2000 Comparison with the obvious: You would rather be the adversary of the HMC151 benefit and price levels, while the NX5 ausstattungsmäßig is a step upward. As for image quality, should differentiate the two Sonys but not great.

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Antwort von VV11:

"Bernd E." wrote: "VV11" wrote: ... She wants to still have time Sonyverglichen with the new. After all, are synonymous around 1000 Euros in between ...
Why would arguably be the SonyAX2000 Comparison with the obvious: You would rather be the adversary of the HMC151 benefit and price levels, while the NX5 ausstattungsmäßig is a step upward. As for image quality, should differentiate the two Sonys but not great.


ah, point for you, I knew of the not yet. But it is synonymous to the market until mid-February, as I have just read, is therefore not Spruchreif

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Antwort von pailes:

"deti" wrote: http://www.expandore.com/e_shop/GY_HM100VSAG_HMC150.htm

"But, few frames might be dropped between files recorded by AG-HMC150.

Therefore, continuous recording without break over the maximum file size for AG-HMC150 is useless even with these nonlinear editing system supporting AVCHD codec natively "

Again you can see again that not everything should believe what you can read it on the net. When clips are divided due to the FAT32 4gb limit, is a so-called "Type 6 Seamless Connection. This means that represent two or more MTS files a single logical transport stream. Should not the NLE to be able to interpret the AVCHD Playlist correctly to recognize the connection type, so you can manage by themselves in accordance with the copy command such as Windows copies the files into a file stream.

[code: 1: edaf65c06a]
copy / b 00000.MTS + 00001.MTS merged.MTS
[/ code: 1: edaf65c06a]

Synonymous Alternatively you can use a tool that I programmed for this purpose. See:
http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=161735

The tool only works if the clips were divided because of the FAT32 limit, otherwise you can not connect the clips so.

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Antwort von Jörg:

Quote: Again you can see again that not everything should believe what you can read it on the net.

true,
whom the 151/171 in the German forums too little is being referred to,
in this forum
btw @ Pailes your tool works fine, thank you for the effort.


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Antwort von partylogger:

Yes and what the discussion in the Second-hand look at?

--- Ok (which is postponed / admin) ---


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