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Frage von raphu84:


I think I wrote in my previous post too much, so I now ask again briefly and succinctly:

Currently is a good time to buy Panasonic HDC-SD300 too?

Anyone who knows the price with out with camcorders? Are there any fairs / events (; presentation of new models) in the foreseeable future, the experience affects the price of camcorders? Say: Is it likely in six months with prices in the range of about 200 to ¬?

Wäre echt super if it could describe one or other of his experiences, or could give me one or another tip!

Greeting
Raphael



Antwort von pilskopf:

Which are always cheaper, but then usually stop when a new model comes onto the market.



Antwort von Daigoro:

On average, yes. Not necessarily the case:
http://www.idealo.de/preisvergleich/OffersOfProduct/1392348_-hdc-sd300-panasonic.html
-> "Price" (: this is because I do not think the average, but the best and cheapest suppliers - hence the sometimes synonymous high jumps, eg if a provider or a ne action vanishes for Sale starts).

If one is committed to a particular model, brings the wait rather little.
The thing is cheap or expensive, depending on the provider and supply / demand, or holidays, or individual actions of the trade and some isses from the market and no one sits still there.

When one is in Bargains / actions, you must be flexible in the choice model and a 'comparable' Geraet is guenstig offered grad take.
Otherwise, just buy and be satisfied.



Antwort von Thorbj:

So I have my grad sells 300th He had wenigher sharpness than my older Canon HG-10, although records only in 1440x1080. In addition, the noise behavior sit bad, you have truly brtaucht sunshine weather. At home in the apartment should be already working with some professional permanent lighting. In addition, the image stabilization may not send the hit is better in any case, a tripod, if one views a little closer zooms. In addition, the device has, like all other synonymous, not a clever angle. The purchase of an approximately 150-200 Euro expensive adapter is useful.
I mean, the small size of this device is all that still aktzeptabel, it offers very synonymous vielle manual functions, which I think is positive. But for the price of 1200 euro image quality is not sufficient.



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

The price is currently at about 930 euros. Therefore, 1,200 euros are already too high a price.

930 Euro + 100 Euro for a very good wide-angle attachment



Antwort von Thorbj:

For 300 euros less, the device would be recommended. :-)



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

Since then my interest however, what is the alternative in the price range "would be better"?

Sure, the 3000 camcorder bring more power and wide angle. ;-)



Antwort von KSProduction:

"Thorbj" wrote: For 300 euros less, the device would be recommended. :-)



You can not say so ...... 300 less slack, so about 600 euro you get a very good second-hand Panasonic NV-GS500 with warranty and the rest is really nice!

about 300 euro more for a new Panasonic HDC-SD300 is completely justified

renowned testberichte:

http://www.testberichte.de/p/panasonic-tests/hdc-sd300-testbericht.html



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

@ KSProduction

Since you apparently, the two GS 500 and SD 300 know, I'd be interested, as you'll find the two camcorders in the Comparison? So, especially image quality, sharpness. - Of course I know that you can compare to AVCHD SD ig not 100%.

I am of the GS 500 to the SD 300 and thus changed would be my professional opinion important. I do myself as Neufilmerin ;-) Comparison with such a still difficult.

Regards

Regina






Antwort von KSProduction:

"Neufilmerin" wrote: @ KSProduction

Since you apparently, the two GS 500 and SD 300 know, I'd be interested, as you'll find the two camcorders in the Comparison? So, especially image quality, sharpness. - Of course I know that you can compare to AVCHD SD ig not 100%.

I am of the GS 500 to the SD 300 and thus changed would be my professional opinion important. I do myself as Neufilmerin ;-) Comparison with such a still difficult.

Regards

Regina


hello regina

nee, I'm not experience with the SD 300, I have only read a lot about and am not synonymous benefit: - /

But when you been with the GS 500 have filmed you're seen as not quite a "new" filmmaker ;-)

I did not go to HD. have told me how they got 500 GS because I have two other mini-dv cams (; synonymous panasonic) movies and concerts with the 3s. jepp.

For me HD might come later to ask, did not even clever nen tv: - / ..... but PC moderately quite ok ......

WE wish you a nice !!!!!! gruß aus ulm-klaus



Antwort von KSProduction:

"Neufilmerin" wrote: @ KSProduction

Since you apparently, the two GS 500 and SD 300 know, I'd be interested, as you'll find the two camcorders in the Comparison? So, especially image quality, sharpness. - Of course I know that you can compare to AVCHD SD ig not 100%.

I am of the GS 500 to the SD 300 and thus changed would be my professional opinion important. I do myself as Neufilmerin ;-) Comparison with such a still difficult.

Regards

Regina



for comparison, which I've just slept :-) As far as I can tell, the SD 300 in each case and in particular, the NV-GS trump 500th

However, if a GS 500 with cheap-ner AVCHD cam of course, would then not be compared. to have too little megapixel image sensor and the corresponding synonymous not in it and that is the decisive (and beside a good objective)



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

Thanks for the reply. As a beginner, I am reassured that the bill was correct. :-)



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: So I have my grad sells 300th He had wenigher sharpness than my older Canon HG-10, although records only in 1440x1080. In addition, the noise behavior sit bad, you have truly brtaucht sunshine weather. At home in the apartment should be already working with some professional permanent lighting. In addition, the image stabilization may not send the hit is better in any case, a tripod, if one views a little closer zooms. In addition, the device has, like all other synonymous, not a clever angle. The purchase of an approximately 150-200 Euro expensive adapter is useful.
I mean, the small size of this device is all that still aktzeptabel, it offers very synonymous vielle manual functions, which I think is positive. But for the price of 1200 euro image quality is not sufficient.

Still suspect that it is enough to Slashcam the Camera of the Year 2009, has just as they proclaimed the SD-100 for Camera of the Year 2008?



Antwort von Frank B.:

So I went with the picture quality of the camera fully satisfied. Did she just yesterday, admitted in broad daylight, outside in the garden from my old SonyFX 1 tested.
My first Conclusion: Setting the Sonylässt faster and more accurate and has the better control options with the large, sharp viewfinder, and clearly the better and larger monitor. The ideal setting of the Panasonic, you can combine the images of two cameras, but very well together. Jumps in the sharpness or the color performancesind not great. They can be quite good in a good editing program to align.

Positive at small Panasonic, I think it's balanced picture and the many settings, the relatively good way to play with the depth of field. Since I was with 1 / 4 inch chips very pleasantly surprised. The Image Stabilization is not bad, a tripod, however, essential for professional results. Very good, I think the little helpers synonymous for optimal image display setting, such as zebra bodies of overexposed to show the histogram and the Luminanzpegels or the insertion of grid lines for the optimal image composition.
Negative, I think the relatively weak monitors. I wear glasses and think everything is a little small. Since I have a rubber eyecup of an old Panasonic SVHS camcorder was glued to the viewfinder, it is better to work with. All in all, there are worlds between the viewfinder and monitor where the FX1 and Panasonic. Negative me is synonymous Angleaufgefallen the defective Wide. Since the Sonysynonymous make significantly more. But that is not quite so important, because I already have a WW-adapter into the appropriate size and anyway, the Panasonic was intended only as a supplement to the FX 1st
Its design is negative well that many settings are possible only via menu. This is the Tuchscreen a real help. With practice, the settings of your hand fast. Annoying is that you have to be passed for manual adjustment via Objektivrad viewfinder and all the items again and again until it is again s.der right place. Another negative point is the attachment of the two important for adjustment for the manual focus and manual settings behind the folding screen. With flared slightly upward and rotated monitor themselves with little fingers to get off any more. The keys would be better placed at the outer edge of the hinged monitor as she lay back with closed and with open laptop screen monitor could be left with (; use stabilizing) hand s.Monitor easy.
I will make in the coming days for some tests, possibly synonymous times when there is a bit dim outdoors. I can post if needed my (; again subjective) impressions.
Btw.: There are already some threads in the forum now to the Panasonic HDC SD 300th Perhaps one should not always open a new one.

Frank



Antwort von Jan:

"raphu84" wrote: I think I wrote in my previous post too much, so I now ask again briefly and succinctly:

Currently is a good time to buy Panasonic HDC-SD300 too?

Anyone who knows the price with out with camcorders? Are there any fairs / events (; presentation of new models) in the foreseeable future, the experience affects the price of camcorders? Say: Is it likely in six months with prices in the range of about 200 to ¬?

Wäre echt super if it could describe one or other of his experiences, or could give me one or another tip!

Greeting
Raphael


The principle is the same every year, in February, the new cameras are introduced, and the old models will be reduced or phased out. Last year it was a little different, because many companies have increased their Prices for the models. Since so many of Canon HF 100 was (popular with the users, and cheaper, and it was not lowered) as the new 200th RF


Can not we just say at the end of time I would go out at about ¬ 100 a favorable SD 300th


Panasonic times'm curious what all s.Nachfolger (; wants to change except the size better stability) ....



"Bruno Peter" wrote:


Still suspect that it is enough to Slashcam the Camera of the Year 2009, has just as they proclaimed the SD-100 for Camera of the Year 2008?




That depends on whether Canon or Pana Sonymehr paid ....

Ne seriously Slashcam had always fair for a Comparison. I think rather not s.eine manipulation.


I would opt for the synonymous class consumer, the SD 300 or the XR 500 / 520 for the best camera of 2009, along with the HF 200 cheaper for the HD models and the new Aiptek HD (; which surely will not be so bad) or Rollei IR 5 as a cheap tip.

VG
January



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

Hello,

I have the Panasonic SD 300 one more question, because I am with this issue so do not know much about:

I film until now only in automatic mode, and no such special cases such as Digital Cinema.

(My picture setting: 1920 = x1080 image quality, so the highest setting)

But is now in 50i or 25p (;?) Recorded?

I find in the manual only in case of digital cinema, (and what I do not want to), is recorded with 50i.

My AVCHD sample movies namely I edit with Edius Neo and pick s.Anfang HDV 1080/50i "from. Although I do not know if this is at all correct. ;-)

I hope that I can help someone.

In my opinion, Edius Neo can create 1080/25p HDV in my version 1.01 with no DVD. Therefore, I would not take the camcorder with 25p synonymous?

Regards

Regina



Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Quote: HDV 1080/50i "

But you have no HDV, or did you transcode to HDV before?



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

I am Neufilmerin. ;-)

So I film in AVCHD. But something I must choose s.Anfang. In Edius Neo - s.Anfang?






Antwort von Bruno Peter:

Not something ...
You have only with the additional tool AVCHD2HQ the AVCHD clips in HQ-Intermediate transcode (eg, see instructions).
AVCHD2HQ you get on the TGV-free support page after login / registration.
In the second step until you make a suitable project in Edius Neo and now shops the HQ-Intermediate clips. Now you can edit fast and smooth.



Antwort von Neufilmerin:

Sorry, we have misunderstood us.

The conversion is clear. My AVCHD clips I convert before editing in the Canopus format. Store, etc. cut.

That's what not.

What I do not understand: If I want to burn my clips, then I'll go as follows:

File -> Output -> Output in DVD

BUT: I first must select a format in project setting.

Which one? I film with Panasonic 300 SD in fully automatic mode.

1. Possibility: HDV 1080 / 50i

Video
Resolution: 1440 x 1080
Frame rate: 25.00 (, 25 / 1)
Pixel aspect: 1.3333
Field order: Top Field First
Audio
Rate: 48000Hz
Sample size: 16 bits
Channel: 2
Additional Information
HDV, AVCHD
AVC-Intra50
HDCAM

2. HDV 1080 / 25p

Video
Resolution: 1440 x 1080
Frame rate: 25.00 (, 25 / 1)
Pixel aspect: 1.3333
Field order: progressive
Audio
Rate: 48000Hz
Sample size: 16 bits
Channel: 2
Additional Information
HDV

3. 1920 x 1080/501

Video
Resolution: 1920 x 1080
Frame rate: 25.00 (, 25 / 1)
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0000
Field order: Top Field First
Audio
Rate: 48000Hz
Sample size: 16 bits
Channel: 2
Additional Information
AVCHD
Infinity
D5 HD, AVC-Intra100
HDCAM SR
HDV

At worst, I have to try everything. But I hope that I can help someone.

Regards

Regina