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Panasonic HDC-TM700 vs. Sony HDR-XM520VE - HILFE!

Panasonic HDC-TM700 vs.. SonyHDR-XM520VE - HELP!



Frage von gospelrock:
März 2010

Actually, I had decided on the new SonyHDR-XM550. But after the test in the current VAD3/2010 I abandoned the idea because the 550s is in LowLight area has become worse than the 520s last season. So I have not vacillate between the brand new Panasonic HDC-TM700 and the SonyHDR-XM520VE. This indeed is still the standard in this price range LowLight dar. the moment I can not just simply decide between the two. Perhaps you can help me somehow on the jumps! For the following and cons, there are currently for me:

SonyHDR-XR520VE:
+ Very good Low Light Behavior
+ Large internal memory so (for me card üeberflüssig)
+ No blurring when panning
+ Backup without Calculator directly connectable to USB HDD
- No manual level control
- Accessory shoe no normal

Panasonic HDC-TM700:
+ Non interlaced images (50p) in FullHD
+ No moving parts in the storage in the Cam
+ Favorable price
+ Lots of manual controls
New accessory shoe
- Relatively poor LowLight behavior (more noise than the Sony)
- Higher hardware requirements s.The cutting

Can anyone of you give me maybe a few tips for making?

Thank you very much!



Antwort von Debug:

I myself am HDCam newbie, but you might help a little bit of my ideas ;-)

Then you decide you want btw yes the 700s and 520s of the points here, why I would choose in this case for the Pana:

- Improving Wide
- With 50p prepared for the future
- More manual controls
- Compact

The Sonyist Although synonymous with GPS available, but for me not buying criterion. Who but a lot masturbates with Picasa, etc., which would probably not do without GPS. Where a friend of me so. The Sony550 buys now, and although only because of GPS.

Low Light Behavior ... hmm ... I've seen on youtube now so some clips of the Pana 300, where the LL is probably even worse than the 700s. And That's enough for me already perfected. Therefore, synonymous for me no reason to resort to Sonyzu.

The computer requirements Höhrer probably refers to the processing of 50p material? Even this point, I would currently be neglected. Have you actually a chain, which is consistent with 1080 50p right? On this subject, there are already some threads. Lie to you through the times.

For my part I am waiting every day for a call from the dealer I trust that my Panasonic has arrived :-))

I hope you could help a little.

Many greetings, debug



Antwort von gospelrock:

Because of the GPS I would buy the Sonynie! That is absolutely not buying criterion for me is the barely visible noise of Sonybei little light has already impressed me very much. Then I would accept it even possible that the camera "only" swallows Memory Sticks. This is the hard drive big enough.
With DSLR cameras, I know it from the area that larger sensors synonymous cause less noise. The Panasonic has indeed the 3MOS system, but the sensors are each only 1 / 4 "tall and the Sonyhat a 1 / 2" sensor.
Consistently high-definition video in 50p, I currently do not. Television ago From the moment I have even just a 16:9 CRT. But one wants to be prepared for the future! HD video can look, I currently have my computer TFT. He has an HDMI input.
Given time, I really under time pressure (I would like with) the action my wedding, which is in 3 weeks to film, I once ordered two because I find it simply too dangerous to leave me is the fact that I, the Panasonic just in time get to the appointment. It is now synonymous Allerding certainly not as easy to get the "old" to Sonynoch.








Antwort von MM194:

Hello,

I have almost decided on the Panasonic HDC-SD707.

Here are my reasons:

1.) can still synonymous in 1080i (1080P include: no presets for cut programs, especially at my premiere) CS4 Pro
2.) My PC (i7 860 + 8GB RAM) economy in CS4 to process the test file of Videoaktiv
3.), the SD707 as a 32 GB SD card Class10 is cheaper than the price difference
4th) I in Sonyeiniges Mitbezahle what is not needed and have less manual intervention options, the "old" nor with Memory Stick)
5.) The automatic modes on the Panasonic, at least listen to the manual very well, is optimized storing of up to 6 Gisichtern to be the focus
6.) Better wide angle
7.) still the same accessories (eg battery), wide angle and teleconverter exception to the rule, because the new filter Brighter Lens)
.
.
.
unimportant:) my full HD LCD TV, DVD recorders and Blu-ray home theater system are of Panasonic

Greetings from Berlin
MM194



Antwort von MM194:

"gospel rock" wrote:

Given time, I really under time pressure (I like the action with my wedding is in 3 weeks to film,),


Oh, oh, I hope the person whom you ausgekuckt you like living with you, that you love Him in the CAM synonymous not you know you can import ...

Would not it be better to CAM for the honeymoon, of course (just outside the hotel room: to buy)) and the recordings can be one of better than 2 to make acquaintances with his / her CAMs?

Greetings from Berlin
MM194

PS: ans accessories (think at least 1 Battery in a batch Sonyzusätzlich - negative point for Sony, the newly Sonyhat übrigenz another new battery)



Antwort von Jörg:

Quote:
(1080P: no presets for cut programs, especially in my Premiere) Pro CS4


a precision on the material assigned desktop project files that run totally smooth and without RedBar.
You'll have your loved it ...



Antwort von MM194:

"Joerg" wrote:
Quote:
(1080P: no presets for cut programs, especially in my Premiere) Pro CS4


a precision on the material assigned desktop project files that run totally smooth and without RedBar.
You'll have your loved it ...


... I have to tonight's see exactly. I had tried it, namely, the rendering of screens but have always an error. If there are problems I sign up again, but in digital video editing forum at CS4.



Antwort von Jörg:

Quote:
the rendering of screens always get an error message.


when Vorschaurendern are certainly still some adjustments needed, the export is OK.



Antwort von Debug:

if it is now synonymous bissi OT. Please forgive ...

I have the 50p clip TM700 transformed with me on the Mac 108025p. But my Mac took 46sek clip length at only 15 minutes!

I dread it now before it, when I think of how long the part will then need when I convert my own first 700 clips.

Oh .... is 2.4 intel core duo Mac :-(

Addendum: did not have to wait until the end .... have become even 23 minutes



Antwort von gospelrock:

"MM194" wrote:
"gospel rock" wrote:

Given time, I really under time pressure (I like the action with my wedding is in 3 weeks to film,),


Oh, oh, I hope the person whom you ausgekuckt you like living with you, that you love Him in the CAM synonymous not you know you can import ...

Would not it be better to CAM for the honeymoon, of course (just outside the hotel room: to buy)) and the recordings can be one of better than 2 to make acquaintances with his / her CAMs?

Greetings from Berlin
MM194

PS: ans accessories (think at least 1 Battery in a batch Sonyzusätzlich - negative point for Sony, the newly Sonyhat übrigenz another new battery)


Mhhh. Well I have ausgeguckt me, the longer lives with you around the corner. ;-)
From my friends and relatives, unfortunately, no one has a current action. The latest wire is an with DV tapes. :-(

Greeting from Thuringia



Antwort von Freddi:

"gospel rock" wrote:
... The latest wire is an with DV tapes. :-( ...

When's an XH A1 is similar to, or - why not? ;-)



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"gospel rock" wrote:
... From my friends and relatives, unfortunately, no one has a current action. The latest wire is an with DV tapes. :-(...

Well, and? There are / were very good cameras with DV tapes, as there are pretty lousy card camcorder / there - and all the variants in between. The storage media says about the performance of a camera at all.








Antwort von gospelrock:

It is already clear to me. But I've seen videos of said elderly camcorder - naja. I want so bad-mouthing nothing. But since today makes every digicam better video recordings.



Antwort von Videobodo:

Hello gospel rock
Have you already answered yes s.anderer place. On the subject tape camcorder or SD - picture quality, I am happy to leave once you play a DVD. You'll see, done properly, ie camcorder, editing program and Autoringsofware are not out of the "junk box, you see the result synonymous to a flask is not so bad!
Of course, nothing against the top HD images from experts!
Bodo




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