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Frage von dukebtd:


Hello,

I can not distinguish between the 80s and 90s MiniDV camcorder decide.

In the datasheet of the 80s is written that he had "real" can be 16:9. I understand that Anamaorph. When 90 is only 16:9.

If the 90 synonymous anamorph, or it only caches the 4:3 picture from above and below?

Is it true that the 90 under 16:9 effectively uses only 370,000 pixels? The 80s on the other hand, 540,000?

Why this deterioration?

Is this ever worsening?

Is that for me that I better anyway absorb everything in 4:3 and later s.Computer bring to 16:9 for the Best Possible Resolutionzu use?

Are there any alternative to the camcorder? I am a bit fussy what that picture is concerned. Would really prefer NEN HDV, but I think there are still too expensive. I need to but soon, as soon as my wife does. :-)

Thank you very much,

Boris

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Antwort von dukebtd:

Response of Panasonic:

Dear XXX,

Thank you for your e-mail and your interest s.Panasonic.

With reference to your request, we share with you that both MiniDV camcorder (NV-GS80 and NV-GS90) on an anamorphic 16:9 recording feature.

In 4:3 mode, with both models of the total 800,000 pixels with a 4:3 cut out 400,000 pixels with 704x576 pixels and saved. In 16:9 mode, a wider area in the 16:9 aspect ratio with the NV-GS80 with 540,000 pixels and with the NV-GS90 with 370,000 pixels read out. Furthermore, we share with you that a recording is 720x576 pixels for PAL required arithmetically equivalent to 414,720 pixels. The NV-GS90, the missing pixels by interpolation calculated.

Yours sincerely,

Your Panasonic Customer Care Team

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Antwort von Peter13:

Hi,

I have the 90 returned.
He is me

1. too unwieldy, especially in the thumb area

2. not convincing in the picture

I have now for the NV-GS 500 EGS decided.
After really studying the descriptions tagelangem / experience, I think that much will be better.

best greetings
Peter

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Antwort von MaNeY:

This means then yes, that the NV-GS 80 is better?

@ Peter
I think NV-GS 500 and 80/90 are priced a bit far apart that a comparison is useful since :-)

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Antwort von Peter13:

Hello,

directly compare it think not.
Was actually more of my thoughts on the GS90.
've Really annoyed me that despite Superzoom good and so bad processing device operable to be escaped. And the picture quality is not ok. Somehow impure.
Well, is gone.

I have for many years Pana. My M7 is still flawless.
They could ask the question: can I with the M7 (VHS Full) does not "normal"
will continue to work and the films still in good quality, get in my calculator?
Who knows really from?


The GS500 is of the data is already good.
But s.Stelle of MiniDV I would actually prefer a memory card.
So fully. No HDD, no CD.

I tested the Samsung VP-MX 10A.
Class operation, menus inflation klasse, klasse price.
However, no accessories, picture quality as GS90.

Is there nothing clever?
Perhaps the FS11/FS 100 of Canon or similar?

I'm still pretty undecided.

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Antwort von MaNeY:

What did you picture quality because s.der disturbed? Precisely this is in the testing of the GS90 is always praised.

I wanted so I actually NV-GS 330 pick, but am now on about whether there is a GS90 for my claim does not synonymous.
If so much as a difference of ¬ 200.

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Antwort von Peter13:

Zoom can feinfühlich control slows but always from the middle. Maybe defective.
But the picture quality? Somehow, it looked as if obtained by a slice of filming. And outside in good weather.
And if you have large hands, the handling annoying.
I got the hand strap is not so that I only shoot's focus had always synonymous's celebration on hold.
Is obviously a subjective experience.
But the films I am definitely not good enough.

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Antwort von Peter13:

Kleiner Nachtrag

I have ordered the HV30.
Bin mal gespannt whether what is ...

Opinions / experiences are always welcome

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Antwort von parolando:

Hello!

Take in any case, the GS90, for these reasons:

The optical Image Stabilization is 10x better. The GS80 does not come to me quiet recordings. No longer a problem with the GS90. The advanced optical image stabilizer needs Comparison with the optical stabilizer of Sony or Canon not (more) shy.

The GS90 has a focal length range of 33,8-1420 mm. This gives you the synonymous wide range covered. Know of no other current camera, which offers.

The digital noise is not as penetrating as in GS80. But is still visible, making the rauschunterdrückte Picture is blurred. If, however - as I said - better than the GS80.

For the price, the GS90 is a great Camera. The question of whether GS80 or GS90 because of slightly lower resolution, I would not even make the purchase criterion, given the improvements.

But that is your decision.

The annex another example of the noise reduction in comparison to my SonyTRV900. But again, the GS80 picture would be even more blurred.

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Antwort von herbraib:

Hi,

I summarize my impressions with the NV-GS 90 once:

- Peter 13: "2 is not convincing in the picture"

which I must agree. The pictures - no preference whether 4:3 or 16:9 - effect
in the details washy. The transition to shutter 1 / 25 (yes, this
is progressive) you can see quite how to further focus
loses.

Among the colors: grass green lights too much, probably wg.
High infrared sensitivity. Traffic lights and rear of
Vehicles have a clear halo on, synonymous with good-Ausleuch
tion of the other objects in the scene.

Yellow seems to drift slightly to the green, blue goes to whitish-gray.

- "Well, is gone."

I already have the second, after the first copy hot pixel
components. May still happen?

- MaNeY: "What did you picture quality because s.der disturbed? It is this
is used in the tests of the GS90 is always praised. "

This praise of some of the press, I can not understand.

- Parolando: "The optical Image Stabilization is [better than other models]"

I can confirm. It is amazing that with a steady hand
even at full zoom still acceptable recordings can shoot.

- Focal length range of 33,8-1420 mm

This is really excellent and was my reason for the purchase.

Currently I have a problem: The sound always seems the Picture
by around 2 frames (80 ms) ahead. Have today
with 32 kHz and 48 kHz and 4:3 or 16:9 verified. In three
various programs, I see an event in the audio waveform,
while it is in the picture until two frames later appears.

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Antwort von Markus:

"herbraib" wrote: ... I summarize my impressions with the NV-GS 90 once:

- Peter 13: "2 is not convincing in the picture"

which I must agree.

I'm a little irritated. 200 ¬ is cheap but the range of DV camcorders. What is there expected?

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Antwort von herbraib:

Quote: 200 ¬ is cheap but the range of DV camcorders. What is there expected? "

At least have a picture with the modern cameras
the same price class can match.

Even at the risk of apples with pears to compare:
Surprisingly good film with my
Canon IXUS 65 (camera) from 2006 (640x480 30p, MJPEG, 4:2:2!)
are problematic to obtain - especially in low light
- As with the NV-GS90. Problems with the automatic white balance
There are virtually non-existent.

One must at this comparison of course, waive that
IXUS

- 16:9 not dominated
- Zoom and focus during the recording can not change,
- Has no Image Stabilization and
- (Without software changes), only about 17 minutes to 2 GB
can store.

If the IXUS a tripod, there is the Picture quiet. Unfortunately,
I'm not aware of measures that the NV-GS90 help,
the described problems.

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