Newsmeldung von slashCAM:Hier geht es zur Newsmeldung: Panasonic announces ship date for AG-AF100/101
Antwort von Daniel007:
The already existing discussion on this new "kind of camcorders," is the terrible design, they poured oil on the fire once. ;-)
Antwort von edgar:
Very "interesting" I find synonymous pricing!
Europe will get ripped off again ... O (
Antwort von Mink:
.... the terrible design .... Yes, important!
http://www.arridigital.com/alexaplus
Nenene ... ugly!
And much worse is the non-synonymous pretty determined here so ...:
http://www.amazon.de/Kodak-Pocket-Camcorders-Karte-Inch- Display / dp/B001UE4OUC/ref = sr_1_2? Ie = UTF8 & qid = 1287056334 & sr = 1-2
Antwort von Daniel007:
.... the terrible design ....
Yes, important!
http://www.arridigital.com/alexaplus
Nenene ... ugly!
And much worse is the non-synonymous pretty determined here so ...:
http://www.amazon.de/Kodak-Pocket-Camcorders-Karte-Inch- Display / dp/B001UE4OUC/ref = sr_1_2? Ie = UTF8 & qid = 1287056334 & sr = 1-2 Hehehe ... I agree with you fully and completely! :) Pink even fits a bit better designing such ...
Antwort von Mink:
... and to my sound equipment ....
http://www.heilsound.com/pro/products/pr20p/pr20p.jpg
Antwort von welte:
Who cares about the design! It is beautiful ... no preference.
Antwort von Daniel007:
Who cares about the design! It is beautiful ... no preference. Problem is that you have such a camcorder, but its not looking at price! Of course this is not a priority at all, but such a design is really scary ... : X
@ Mink: Good taste! Fits all colors so well together.
Antwort von B.DeKid:
Why is there so nen glaring price difference or is it a mistake Tip?
Who can explain it maybe?
..............
And regarding the desing, I now find not just bad. What would be the contact "a beautiful design"?
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von Daniel007:
Why is there so nen glaring price difference or is it a mistake Tip?
Who can explain it maybe?
..............
And regarding the desing, I now find not just bad. What would be the contact "a beautiful design"?
MfG
B. DeKid Is probably all depends on the taste of the user. :)
I now find, for example, ne Canon XH-A1, FX1 beautiful etc.. ;)
Antwort von inferno_o:
beautiful. then continue with film containing nerve fx1.
Antwort von Daniel007:
beautiful. then continue with film containing nerve fx1. I made my choice of design depends? No!
Antwort von B.DeKid:
So I think the desing should be synonymous, the first secondary gehandhaben!
In my view, seems to have been built capable cam.
do not see the teams set a documentary which only the extra Sherpa Cam drags ;-) - It is not a shoulder mounted camcorder brings, but because of their size advantage with the
reminder, I like the handle, is determined synonymous for good liner Following Shots ... Nevertheless, I would sometimes get so intressieren as unterschiedliichen prices "may".
MfG
B. DeKid
Antwort von NEEL:
Why is there so nen glaring price difference or is it a mistake Tip?
Who can explain it maybe? The U.S. has a lower import duty on camcorder as the EU, ie the product is ever cheaper in the wholesale and retail than at home. Also: U.S. Prices are always net prices because the Sales Tax and VAT of state varies to state. Americans therefore have on average a 10% add on.
The German prices are usually no net prices, ie everyone who has registered a trade may deduct from the camera confidently again Price 19%.
In relation to prices were, unfortunately, usually not so much of themselves away, as that would be worth an import.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... In relation to prices were, unfortunately, usually not so much of themselves away, as that would be worth an import ... Comparing the current pre-order price of American and German broadcast dealer, then a U.S. imported and duty paid AF100 (3600 ¬) around 1200 ¬ cheaper than one in this country bought AF101 (4800 ¬):
the difference is likely the case is entirely one or the other for a Purchase of interest across the Atlantic. Unlike other usual at Panasonic, the two camcorders are so technically completely identical.
Antwort von stip:
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/search?Ntt=af100&N=0&InitialSearch=yes
With customs duty and taxes that would be around the 4500 ¬?
Street price in D plus VAT ¬ 4,800 (ie ¬ 5,700)?
Either the statement is true or not, the difference is quite large.
Antwort von NEEL:
... In relation to prices were, unfortunately, usually not so much of themselves away, as that would be worth an import ...
Comparing the current pre-order price of American and German broadcast dealer, then a U.S. imported and duty paid AF100 (3600 ¬) around 1200 ¬ cheaper than one in this country bought AF101 (4800 ¬): the difference is likely the case is entirely one or the other for a Purchase of interest across the Atlantic. Unlike other usual at Panasonic, the two camcorders are so technically completely identical. Huh? How do you get to 3600 ¬?
Time against expected shortly:
Order at B & H including postage: 4,879.54 U.S. dollars
Realistic exchange rate 1.30: 3753, - ¬
Duty (video camera with external recording (HD-SDI!)
12.5%: 4222, - ¬ net
VAT 19%: 5024, - Gross
that means:
U.S. Net Price 4222, -
German Net price: 4899, - / Edit: BPM 4795, -
They are in my account less than 600 ¬ difference, but there are no synonymous German guarantee. Although worth considering, but I would rather then keep it in Germany to offer a merchant on the lookout.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... How do you get to 3600 ¬? ... I had expected the lower rate - HD-SDI is it really an input? Panasonic speaks only of output, or have I missed something?
My statement was referring to a street price of $ 4,695 (offer of a U.S. broadcast distributor in the DVXuser forum): That would be according to the current exchange rate about 3400 ¬ including shipping. Pros Inch 12.5% (assuming flat, HD-SDI is synonymous an input) is around 3825 ¬ net - in contrast to 4800 ¬ net with the German dealers, which are still 1000 Euro difference.
Gross is the ratio of ¬ 4550 (for Purchase in USA) to 5700 ¬ (for Purchase in D).
Slightly lower than in my first bill, the difference is so, in fact, but for the 1000 ¬ you could still set a very nice extra lens. And of course, possible fluctuations in exchange rates move this bill still synonymous in both directions.
Antwort von Gregott:
Thanks Neel calms the me ... already had high blood pressure in anger:) good ... I have seen a test video with the part ... ! Waahhhnsiiinnnn Nice I try to buy!
Antwort von stip:
The price for an imported AF100 corresponds including generous calculated shipping and 12.5% synonymous inches by my reckoning about 4600 ¬ gross, so how good Bernd says ¬ 1000 less. This is virtually a free GH2 as B-Cam or a decent lens to do so.
If Prices and exchange rates remain as an import is really worth considering.
Antwort von Predator:
Must have! Now!
Antwort von KlausZ:
Whoa-For the price I get 2 x 5D Mk II or 3x GH2 and n 'class to Lens. What I want as oppose to the AF101 except the handle? The image quality can not be, if you watch the first Beispielfilmchen - marginal differences.
I'm curious sometimes how something will prevail in the market.
Antwort von handiro:
The price for an imported AF100 corresponds including generous calculated shipping and 12.5% synonymous inches by my reckoning about 4600 ¬ gross, so how good Bernd says ¬ 1000 less. This is virtually a free GH2 as B-Cam or a decent lens to do so.
If Prices and exchange rates remain as an import is really worth considering. I see the same! My dealer has offered me yesterday a 10% reduction itself so that I would come to 5400 ¬ including tax tale.
Let's see how the course developed, but at 1.40 $ is really painful!
Antwort von Amirxy:
Above all, too bad they only 50p at 720p and can not in 1080p. That would be me that is important .. so I find the camera now synonymous not so out of the scoop and the XLR connectors see little advantage over a 5DII.
Better to wait what the next generations can s.neuen camcorders. Or maybe Red Scarlet, if at some point really shows up:)
Antwort von Mink:
The handle synonymous disappointed me a bit .... I thought the floats! Really nothing new here .... hmmmm;)
And for the price I get 50 of my already linked above pfff pink sweetheart .. silly ....
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... For the price I get 2 x 5D Mk II or 3x GH2 and n 'class to Lens. What I want as oppose to the AF101 except the handle? ... Look at that, what the AF101 everything / can and the 5DMKII GH2 or not: There are worlds between.
... Too bad they only 50p at 720p and 1080p can not ... The AF101 may well 1080p50 1080p60 and even if it were synonymous only through the back door of the slow motion function.
... Or maybe Red Scarlet, if at some point actually shows up ... When finally there is, then a Comparison with the AF101 is really interesting! According to current knowledge, the Scarlet is set in a clearly higher league, and for almost the same price (based on the fixed lens version).
Antwort von NEEL:
[Quote = "Bernard E."] [
when the last time there, then a comparison with the AF101 really interesting! According to current knowledge, the scarlet played in a clearly higher league, and for almost the same price (based on the fixed lens version). [/ quote]
I see synonymous Sun Especially since 2 / 3 inch so in about 16mm equivalent, which is both easier to act in the documentary field and offers on the other page is still room for pretty dramatic focus shifts. I guess in terms of image quality is the Scarlet (13 covers) with the SonyF23 (12 f) are quite the same level. And so you can really fine film ...
Antwort von r.p.television:
The AF101 may well 1080p50 1080p60 and even if it were synonymous only through the back door of the slow motion function.
Is that so? I knew nothing.
If yes, another plus point. I think that I will in December, two cameras (EX1 and 5DMark2) make one.
Can someone confirm me really as I have the focal length figures in the Four Thirds lenses to understand.
At half the sensor size as likely as the KB Kitoptik the GH1 14-140mm in accordance KB 28-280mm. Or I overlook etc. as any other factor such as pixel ratio for the sensors?
Antwort von Kevinovicz:
Can someone confirm me really as I have the focal length figures in the Four Thirds lenses to understand.
At half the sensor size as likely as the KB Kitoptik the GH1 14-140mm in accordance KB 28-280mm. Or I overlook etc. as any other factor such as pixel ratio for the sensors? As far as I know you can see the perfectly correct.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Should correspond, for example, the GH1 Kitoptik 14-140mm in KB 28-280mm .... That's right: The data is double the usual focal forth from the KB.
Antwort von Amirxy:
The AF101 may well 1080p50 1080p60 and even if it were synonymous only through the back door of the slow motion function.
Where is da ne indication that the Panasonic can record 1080p in slow motion?
Antwort von Bernd E.:
The info about 1080p50 found, inter alia in the Panasonic presentation that I had linked as an addendum to this post:
http://forum.slashcam.de/viewtopic.php?p=447195 # 447 195
In addition, of course, always worth a look in the forum of www.dvxuser.com, has probably already explained where almost every detail of the AF100/101 and discussed.
Antwort von Amirxy:
Video Frame Rate: 1080:59.94 i/50i/29.97p/25p/23.98p or
720:29.94 p/50p/29.97p/25p/23.98p
no 1080 50p. or am I blind?
there is only variable frame rates, but nothing of nerve slow motion or something of that nature
