Frage von Christian Ehmann:
Hi folks, 
 soon stands up into the house. And since we know of several in 
 almost unbearable manner via e-mail with pictures of their brood 
 bombed, we have decided that all these people as little 
 S.Geburt return at least about one hour a week 
 Compilation of the most interesting belch, and Schreierchen 
 Our nap / r small as possible. 
 So good that SchwiePa, market manager at a 
 Electronics market, just two (not quite current) cameras 
 lying, whose accessories completely disappeared and he is us 
 therefore cheaper (ie in the low double-digit range) might be. 
 First question: Which is better? It is the Panasonic NV-DS 
 990 EC and the JVC GR-DVX 4E (Bez latter could transmit false 
 be on the net, I just "44E" and "4" gefdunden). From the design of 
 I like the JVC better (Paperback format "), but has the 
 Panasonic good test results (incidentally one of the 
 Favorite activities and becoming young parents, as I now 
 already had experience on several occasions: Test results studying ...). 
 Second question: What do I need because s.accessories? Batteries, chargers and 
 Cables are available for both models Wohlfeil at Ebay. Missing me yet then what? 
 - My claims are not very high, I must honestly admit. And 
 actually I find the constant Filmerei synonymous a little silly. But 
 what solls ... Eventually, you might really glad. 
 Thank you in advance for all tips, 
 Greeting 
 Christian 
 Antwort von  Christian Ehmann:

Christian Ehmann wrote: 
 > So well, that SchwiePa, market manager at a 
 > Electronics market, just two (not quite current) cameras 
 > Lying, whose accessories completely disappeared and he is us 
 > Therefore cheaper (ie in the low double-digit range) might be. 
 Additional Addendum: It is, of course, camcorder, not to 
 Cameras in the strict sense. 
 Greeting 
 Christian 
 Antwort von  Volker Schauff:

Christian Ehmann wrote: 
 > First question: Which is better? It is the Panasonic NV-DS 
 > 990 EC and the JVC GR-DVX 4E (Bez latter could transmit false 
 > Be in the network, I have only "44E" and "4" gefdunden). From the design of 
 > I like the JVC better (Paperback format "), but has the 
 > Panasonic good test results (incidentally one of the 
 > Favorite activities and becoming young parents, as I now 
 > Have already had experience: Test results studying ...). 
 I see this correctly, that both devices, despite the funny shape of the 
 JVC, mini-DV units are? I see the synonymous right that at least the 
 JVC has a pretty old device, since the prices in many tests 
 nor are given in DM? Where is the price limit? 
 So, mini-DV or D8 is what cost-benefit of the media is concerned in any 
 If ever a good choice. 
 What is still an alternative for you might be a 
 Mini-DVD camcorder of Sony. Disadvantage is that the ability to 
 subsequent processing in video editing programs with s.treffensten 
 Fäkalsprache the various words to describe it (you work of 
 priori with MPEG-2, which is very lossy, it is also 
 time to decompress and most of the pictures must come from 
 (usually) only once every 15 frames, and other emerging Keyframes 
 intermediate difference images reconstructed. All 
 makes the cut pretty lame. Big advantage: DVD-R or-RW disc 
 Unfortunately, the rarer 8cm format inside, and out comes a DVD that 
 now in the player, or 1:1 copy with Nero can. Indeed 
 available there, the devices far outside your price range 
 are (now, I said quite boldly, since you seem to 
 Used appliances inserted searched - incidentally, not a bad idea, a 
 to the same high-quality second-hand price of a new 
 Beginners device does - except for no longer exists Guarantee 
 critically on the Panasonic with oversensitive head drums - often more 
 Fun). 
 As for the quality of the camcorder are: For JVC, unfortunately I know nothing. 
 A friend of me has a Panasonic (a different, but synonymous 
 one of the senior class). The picture is a delight, sensor chip, 
 Lens and Image editing in the unit are top, the result is a 
 Super Picture. However, it fairly quickly after only a few 
 Hours of operation, the head drum hops, followed by lots of fun with 
 a completely incompetent Panasonic Service. The service can be with the 
 of case to case, because the entire private 
 Service Company (any backyard television with Screwdrivers 
 Service contract), their competence and performance may vary. 
 The head with the drum, however, is something not seen in older 
 Video magazines and various articles on various forums Panasonic 
 VCR and camcorder often reads. The rest of the mechanics is 
 very delicate. 
 A special tip, I now do not synonymous. What I am with my eternal 
 I thought someday another camcorder zuzulegen before me 
 wear would be a D8 camcorder of Sony, possibly a model synonymous with the 
 analog recordings Video8/Hi8 cope. But all is with me 
 neither acute nor financially drin. When I was back excess 
 Money probably will have to just run. 
 > Second question: What do I need because s.accessories? Batteries, chargers and 
 > Cables are available for both models Wohlfeil at Ebay. Missing me yet then what? 
 Batteries and tapes you can never have enough. A second Charger (for 
 holiday) or a replacement TV cable (for example, while 
 with friends, or as a replacement if something comes to cable break) would be too 
 consider if you really find joy s.Gerät and it no longer 
 get away from the eye. But that would be superior if you are already "next" 
 're just like any car adapter, car Tripod, small 
 Three-leg Tripod, ... if you ever really have fun with and the thing in 
 Holidays and elsewhere schleppst out. Otherwise do it the first time enough Batteries 
 so you always have a full enough and tapes so that you always have 
 empty searched. 
 Beware of the Batteries, the majority of replicas are ei
 Antwort von  Christian Ehmann:

Volker Schauff wrote: 
 > See, I understand correctly that the two devices, despite the funny shape of the 
 > JVC, mini-DV units are? I see the synonymous right that at least the 
 > JVC has a pretty old device, since the prices in many tests 
 > Nor are given in DM? Where is the price limit? 
 Yes - both mini-DV, both units to five years old, but not 
 needed. 
 > Also, Mini-DV or D8 is what cost-benefit of the media is concerned in any 
 > If ever a good choice. 
 I thought I have - at times today Blödia market reingeschaut (approx. 2 
 Per 60-minute cassette). 
 > What's an alternative for you might be a 
 > Mini-DVD camcorder of Sony. 
 Hua. From about 1000 EUR, I have today at Media Markt correctly 
 noticed? 
 > Disadvantage is that the ability to 
 > Further processing later in s.treffensten with video editing programs 
 > Fäkalsprache the various words to describe it (you work of 
 > Outset with MPEG-2, which is very lossy, it is also 
 > Time to decompress and most of the pictures must come from 
 > (Usually) only once every 15 frames, and other emerging Keyframes 
 > Intermediate difference images reconstructed. All 
 > Makes the cut pretty lame. 
 Sounds not good, certainly not for the price. 
 > Big advantage: DVD-R or-RW disc 
 > Unfortunately, the rarer 8cm format inside, and out comes a DVD that 
 > In the player immediately, or 1:1 copy with Nero can. 
 This would be but synonymous vorführreif filming ... 
 > However 
 >, The devices available there are far above your price range 
 > Lie 
 Even. 
 > Now, I said quite boldly, since you seem to 
 > Used equipment inserted searched 
 This in turn means now. It is, as I said, to new but 
 depreciated equipment from an electronics market. 
 [more tips gesnippt] 
 Thank you for your detailed reply! I think I will say 
 try with the JVC. If against all expectations, but I like to find 
 the Filmerei comes sooner or later surely newer ago. But 
 for the Money (I've SchwiePa jokingly suggested that he was to me 
 ten euro for the correct disposal type. This is in light 
 not even regarded as unrealistic, and in a similar context 
 the purchase price will probably move) you can not really synonymous 
 wrong. 
 I was of course synonymous important not suddenly a few hundred dollars 
 for operating accessories to have to spend - both your camcorder 
 are totally "naked", ie without a battery, without cable, without even nix. But the 
 seems not to be so wild. 
 Greeting 
 Christian 
 Antwort von  Franz J. Boeck:

So said Christian Ehmann: 
 [Panasonic vs. JVC gesnipt] 
 > And actually I find the constant Filmerei synonymous a little silly. But 
 > What solls ... Eventually, you might really glad. 
 Believe me, the time comes for sure! 
 LG, Franz 
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