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Planetshakers (; Short Film) criticism welcome!



Frage von Moritzk:
Juni 2009

Hello my dear Slashcam,

Now it is now 7 months ago I dated this movie with my JVC GZ-MG 131 shot!
In itself, I wanted to publish due to poor picture quality this film never say nothing at all to edit only set to music, etc. but then grabbed me by 3 months of courage and I went s.The work. It's not a masterpiece and has become synonymous not even compare with my current projects, but I did not want my first short film project just let die.
Therefore, it is for you the premiere of my first short film "Planetshakers". I hope one or the other is synonymous create the film look to the end, synonymous if the quality and the Professional is not perfect.

Yet look at you a lot of fun, or just click on go!



Regards Moritz



Antwort von Valentino:

Hey cool video and a good idea.
What I do notice that you are cutting very often of almost equal size to the next setting. It is much more relaxed when you are cutting in-between pure, that is total, close to the boy, Total, American, Total, etc.
What I consider to be beautiful are not synonymous zooms, but everyone must decide for themselves. The Scenic is zoomed very rarely and then connected the most with a Vertigo ride.
The image concept, it would be synonymous nice if we could get the impression that some one or something watching him.


That with the noise and the effect fits well together, somehow reminds me s.Smoky from the series Lost. Since it is enough just to hear the typical sounds and even those Smoky ensteht a certain atmosphere.


Here is a trailer of vertigo, which can be seen twice, such a journey


That's Smoky ;-)




Antwort von Moritzk:

Thanks for your tips! I am not at so much today would make more remains 7 Monaten.Habe the last few months learned a lot, thanks Slashcam synonymous.
Is there still a few opinions? Who has seen the film until the end :-)





Antwort von pilskopf:

I looked at him not quite the end I must say. I pulled down the video and it was too exhausting it all BUT look great cut, I was once really good, sound synonymous to'm really scared once. The diversified! Has me wanting more, but then came perhaps the very end. So, really well done. Above all, I liked the cut.



Antwort von Moritzk:

"pilskopf" wrote:
I looked at him not quite the end I must say. I pulled down the video and it was too exhausting it all BUT look great cut, I was once really good, sound synonymous to'm really scared once. The diversified! Has me wanting more, but then came perhaps the very end. So, really well done. Above all, I liked the cut.



Uiii how nice! Had not thought that one of the great film what could abgewinnen positive. Thank you! But please look yet at the end, just so you understand what's happening synonymous. Or zusehr fear?



Antwort von pilskopf:

Fear not, however, the film depresses me somehow. Here's looking at me later on at the end. Maybe I should cut shorter so that a man like I do not wegzappt. : D The sound is cool, I like to beat me. The good editing work has surprised me, you've already given synonymous with the trouble shooting, I find this one notices that's a good match.



Antwort von Moritzk:

Very sweet of you! Thank you! Synonymous, and I am glad that the film really "fear" einjagt :-)
Wiegesagt I am with my work on this film quite niht so satisfied. Then just do not know much yet. But the more I am happy when you praise my cut.
I just hope there are yet more comments.
Pilskopf, let me know times when you've seen the end, I would be interested in what you say about this, and synonymous especially what you say until the end credits and the music.



Antwort von pilskopf:

I can tell you no matter what I might say so. The cuts are in any pre-dazzling effects. I would in principle (use only commercially available screens, direct cut, together, fade to black or to white) and to halt the Highlander way, which I like to use synonymous or rather have only s.ausprobieren. So with Picture in Picture, without that we notice it.

Such panels AE I find stupid, basically I'd just made one to grab.



Antwort von Axel:

Ensure that all original music is s.Start, schonmal thumbs up. It provides a perfect mix of dramatic program music (; as the piano accompanist for silent films) and the extremely ridiculous, "Mickey Mousing is" so far that these figures synonymous movements of the music, sound effects and music are implemented. This is good mE rather a parody, I certainly can not take it seriously.

Among the above-mentioned digital effects can I make a Book


Antwort von shodushitanaka:

It is always better, much has been synonymous wise said above already, but still cool idea / implementation, exciting and oppressive. Also, the acting performance of the boys liked me.
(; Did the end not quite get it but probably was the teddy / evil;)


Shodushi says:
15 years ago I would have really not done in his pants.



Antwort von pilskopf:

All in all, super gemacht. As you probably know that act SFX placed, as described by Axel, which should fit seamlessly into the action but I could not because of lack of Progi these effects. : D Sure synonymous missing the whole a climax that there is indeed but he lets me back unsatisfied. I need an explanation as viewers of the whole, so simple s.end the explanation may be synonymous. Morality, meaning, criticism, think of something.



Antwort von Moritzk:

"pilskopf" wrote:
All in all, super gemacht. As you probably know that act SFX placed, as described by Axel, which should fit seamlessly into the action but I could not because of lack of Progi these effects. : D Sure synonymous missing the whole a climax that there is indeed but he lets me back unsatisfied. I need an explanation as viewers of the whole, so simple s.end the explanation may be synonymous. Morality, meaning, criticism, think of something.



Yes yes I know :-) wiegesagt then everything was a bit unprepared and did :-) Planetshakers learned much in recent months and what do you see as just then the existing state of things. I think in the coming months I prässentiere you have better things ... but for the first movie I'm still a little proud and happy ... but just a little ;-)



Antwort von pilskopf:

In any case, my first videos are much worse. : D I had certainly synonymous only one cut on the VCR and not the AE in the background. : D



Antwort von Moritzk:

"pilskopf" wrote:
In any case, my first videos are much worse. : D I had certainly synonymous only one cut on the VCR and not the AE in the background. : D


Yes true, only synonymous with AE must be able to handle erstmal :-)



Antwort von Moritzk:

Good morning, it Slashcam,

I would be happy if it still looks at one or other of my films, and gives his opinion ... would like to raise so synonymous ... and for that I need your tips, advice and criticisms

Thank schonmal and a nice weekend.



Antwort von mleblanc:

Hello,

I think the overall impact of the film is quite good, of the film and the sound effects and music synonymous. In the story a little expense was spared. Maybe we should get a little more strength to invest in the next film. Otherwise, I think it put the drama of her good times, said despite the savings.

mfg

mleblanc



Antwort von Moritzk:

"mleblanc" wrote:
Hello,

I think the overall impact of the film is quite good, of the film and the sound effects and music synonymous. In the story a little expense was spared. Maybe we should get a little more strength to invest in the next film. Otherwise, I think it put the drama of her good times, said despite the savings.

mfg

mleblanc



What I learned from the filming of this movie is: A spin with a child in the lead is not a normal rotation ... much had changed plans, but then had to live to be changed during shooting, and has the same effect on the story .



Antwort von mleblanc:

yes shoot with a child I imagine actually not easy before, but it is definitely well-managed.

lg

mleblanc



Antwort von Piers:

In principle, I can only agree with the above: good first novel!

Wirklich klasse are Music / SFX, and the performance of your protagonist.

But some things are synonymous here, (which one, improving one way) can.
For Color correction:
In my opinion you have desaturated the picture too much and then pushed into the color temperature. Although the blue-green look to match the mood, but your main character was perhaps a little face paint as a contrast to the reserve area. Here is a great and clear explanation of the whole:

http://www.freshdv.com/2009/06/redgiant-blockbuster-filmlook.html

Back to the Editor:
I think the aimless running about the boy viieeel too long. That should be evaporated. Stress and anxiety can you still next step where you insert subjective preferences.
The boy arrives somewhere and just looking around (;) to medium shot Nah. Then you cut into a subjective, which shows the hectic, looking round view of the boy. How much better is his anxiety to bear and you pull more viewers into the action.
Similarly dazubasteln a subjective views of the persecutor.
At the moment I remain as spectators on the outside and look at the whole thing so distant. A good way to find out how close the audience s.der desired mood is to listen to your work time with no soundtrack. Because they quickly learn how little the image sequence is still oppressive and how great the distance of the viewer.
A good reference for a subjective observer / pursuer is still Ridley Scott's "Alien" (; first part).

To the plot:
The entry into a story is always pretty hard. But a question I'd have: How the boy comes into the forest? Why he is s.Boden? What makes the evil teddy bear in the tree?
With your entry implies a previous incident, but that is never explained. And it must have been something tragic, because how else is a boy unconscious in the woods?
So I would suggest: leave out.
Rising Sun right with a subjective book. Someone / something is running through the woods. Let the audience in the dark, which increases the tension. Then sees the Subjective Teddy. Then you could then go into "your" settings.

Halfway through the movie I get the impression that the "evil", which pursues the boy, starts from Teddy. Hochnimmt him because whenever he comes this dramatic sound effect.
But then the boy is hiding in a ruin and "evil" seems to be far away in the woods.
At the end of the film then comes the red ball Vox,-P and grabs the boy and the teddy's eyes light up diabolical.
Want to express the fact that the evil to the Teddy claimed for himself and pursued the boy because he has taken away the evil teddy bear? Or is the Teddy somehow evil? Or nothing of the lie, and I totally wrong?
The better you should work out. It does not appear to be with a sledgehammer and ner typo, but the audience should be given the chance to understand your story.

But all in all, great first film. Respect. And can not defeat ;-)



Antwort von Moritzk:

"Piers" wrote:

Want to express the fact that the evil to the Teddy claimed for himself and pursued the boy because he has taken away the evil teddy bear? Or is the Teddy somehow evil? Or nothing of the lie, and I totally wrong? ;-)


Anyone can decide for yourself :-)

Oh, and thank you for your long-criticism, I am positively impressed.

Regards



Antwort von domain:

@ Piers
That was a very remarkable critical times, as they rarely get to read critically and constructively about the specific case of excess synonymous generally interesting.
In this context, I must always think s.PowerMac, with its reference: people telling stories!
To me it sometimes happens that many amateur videos, although the idea is there, but no real story. An idea alone is probably too little and it can not be synonymous in the video is very extensive and, although not by very abundant FX Effects.
The Jammer's just that a mortal, often lack the imagination to develop an idea out a whole story.
Artist halt this are obviously professionals in charge and they rightly deserve our full respect, if they can construct in your head a multi-layered, dramatically designed course of action, affect the one synonymous. And compared to the sequence naturally synonymous our respect to all those who can properly implement a story.
Film is probably the most difficult of the media in general.



Antwort von Piers:

Thanks for the flowers domain.

May be the most difficult film to the media belongs, even in principle, combines all media at once in itself.

-Storytelling
- Audio, SFX, Language
Visual-implementation by Camera & Editor

Nevertheless one can achieve with a lot of ambition, courage and a bit of sense anyway respectable results.
For me, making films especially much "try & error", so try much, much more. How often do I see on average that the sequence does not work at all as I had imagined it during shooting. Since only helps to save what can be saved and do better next time vieeel.
But of course you're right, if you Powermac quoting: "Tell stories." For now moves THE unfortunately too often in the background.

How often I have been cursed in recent years the rapid development in the video market. Because once people get to professional tools at a low price in the hand and think they're a ballroom or a Sergio Leone, by the mere possession of a mill HD It'll marvel at work who may have ne geile picture quality, until the DOF doctor comes, but the content of total cheese. And then to mess up such people Prices on the open market, how often I hear of potential customers that the interns and students Klitsche HD is synonymous around the corner, but only 1 / 5 of my costs. But that is another topic ^ ^

But how does one synonymous s.Planlos notes without casting the film now with a ton of garbage that described above, is simply the storytelling s.sich probably with far the most difficult discipline in a movie. The (; Jung) director knows his story and intention and then passed it to a yes schonmal that one "by routine" just turns off. It is then quickly forgets to put himself in the audience: Ability to understand it? What could get him there for thought? My story is inconsistent here, or I just tinker s.einem huge logical hole?
One can only improve MMN here in two ways:
Watching movies endlessly-targeted attend seminars and read literature Qubikmeterweise
or simply shoot off on it and present their work to a critical audience
I think it's easy to start with the times and look at what comes out is not the most perverse. But it must be synonymous ready to insert the criticism, and NEVER be forgotten: the film should not have to be legitimate criticism. AND you do not have to be 20 years in business to criticize.
If my wife tells me: "No, not the movie I raff, which is nonsense" brings any explanation nix. Since the film has failed simply and movingly, or will be so elitist, that only 5% understand it at all. Either I schnibbel to my masterpiece, so that more meaningful results, or I'll do a special art ;-)

But Moritz seems to me there on a good path. Hardly technical mistakes, good look, good sound, good acting.
The rest he creates synonymous on it yet and then I can come in 10 years of my claim:
I have 'criticized nen Oscar winners;-P



Antwort von Moritzk:

"Piers" wrote:


But Moritz seems to me there on a good path. Hardly technical mistakes, good look, good sound, good acting.
The rest he creates synonymous on it yet and then I can come in 10 years of my claim:
I have 'criticized nen Oscar winners;-P


You can go to sleep ^ ^ :-) so a sentence just before the went over and gone ... and many greetings to you and hopefully a quiet cool night

Moritz



Antwort von JonasB:

[quote = "Moritzk"]
"Piers" wrote:

You can go to sleep ^ ^ :-) so a sentence just before the went over and gone ... and many greetings to you and hopefully a quiet cool night

Moritz


Oh man that was gay ... xD

I do not share many here ... I think the video is missing something ... a matter of opinion ... no preference always do so well next ...." "

MFG

Jonas



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
The Jammer's just that a mortal, often lack the imagination to develop an idea out a whole story.


Here we have to drop everything for a moment and are the set times and look like a Rubik's Cube of multiple pages. He looks so right. But he is synonymous? The basic idea is there, the whole story's missing. Why? Really s.der imagination?

"domain" wrote:
Artist halt this are obviously professionals in charge and they rightly deserve our full respect, if they can construct in your head a multi-layered, dramatically designed course of action, affect the one synonymous.


At the rate it's the same. "Professional competence" but also means that it is a profession, therefore, to some extent a trade. Perhaps a combination of "imagination" and "know how". If s.dem's first non-missing ....

"domain" wrote:
Film is probably the most difficult of the media in general.


Again such a sentence. Media to convey content. The vehicle of the particular medium is the / a Language. Film is a Language. When a language learning, it does not go first in a classic play. The first films were broken types, which were each on the street in the butt. The synonymous counts. Only those who have really nothing to say, has reason for resignation.



Antwort von domain:

Even if I should have expressed myself imprecisely, I have spoken of them:

"The technical, cultural and artistic development of the visual medium of his early end of the 19th Century to the present is described in detail in film history. "From
http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Film
(; with optics alone is probably somewhat fallen short),

and which:

http://www.max.de/pop-kultur/film/autoren-streik

Creative writing course is a blend of craftsmanship and artistic imagination. Is a recognized field of study, even in minor s.Herbst Vienna.

Furthermore,
http://www.rettmann.de/html/creativ_writing.html

"Let's focus on the animals of our pragmatic text types of professional significance - creative writing, which has evolved from uncertain beginnings to an enormous writing movement."



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
Even if I should have expressed myself imprecisely ...

No, no, you express yourself very precisely. But you have the role of devil's advocate, you say the hopeful newcomers: "You, who descends, let's all hope."

I have omitted one sentence: "And of course, synonymous in the sequel to our respect for all those who can properly implement a story."

So many hurdles! You with all right.

And yet! You have to just not put the hurdles so high. Otherwise you can leave everything to stay. Or?



Antwort von domain:

"Axel" wrote:

.. you say the hopeful newcomers: "You, who descends, let's all hope.
And yet! You have to just not put the hurdles so high. Otherwise you can leave everything to stay. Or?


First off: we have (in particular, however, discouraged Piers) Moritzk or rather constructed?
Actually I did but my opinion about the development of more complete stories and expressed apart from the one I already am: the Spielfilmmetier is not exactly the strength of amateurs. Rare that one sees something exciting, simply because there is no amateur film Bonus and extreme specialization and division of work in a team is required to reach half a standard.
On the other hand however, I have seen movies of amateurs on the documentary sector, which could compete with any professional film, that's my opinion the real Domaine of amateurs.

BTW: had a film idea I've just today: "Golfing with a difference" or "Golf for Beginners". But how do I do with a golf ball 10 cm in diameter, like a golf club with a murder butt for the big ball, where I can create a 50-inch hole in a Green, who is building a catapult me that a 2 n.Grasbüschel against blue sky in slow motion moved directly into the hole where the guys are a distance of 1m from the giant ball with security alongside the hole putt :-)

An idea associated with few visual ideas is not enough, the idea of "Golfing with a difference" should be developed into a story, only then would I concern myself more with their implementation.



Antwort von Axel:

"domain" wrote:
Rare that one sees something exciting, simply because there is no amateur film Bonus and extreme specialization and division of work in a team is required to reach half a standard.


This is about craftsmanship standards. Probative value is there of course, only professional. Exciting, but more can be found in MUs Net, admittedly, as the needles in the hay. Or in the art. Not least you found a live installation of a very stimulating pictures?

How do you find this statement: Because amateurs are handicapped by Dideldum etc., they should first do not put their goals too high and secondly, make sure to implement these modest goals craft better?



Antwort von domain:

It's probably more to the content, the story than just craftsmanship.
But this damn Dideldum me has always been synonymous handicapped. You're right ;-))



Antwort von nicecam:

"Axel" wrote:
But you have the role of devil's advocate, you say the hopeful newcomers: "You, who descends, let's all hope."

Not true domain, we have been synonymous gekabbelt times and each gefrotzelt, and never has hurt it.
Of course, one feels "sometimes caught on the wrong foot", but who will ask questions here in the forum to learn. And if certain things you can classify.

The role of devil's advocate, and has also yes (mostly;?) Powermac.

@ Axel
You are referring to in the Wikipedia article, if I understand you, a blend of the statements in paragraph 1 and paragraph 2 from ... "is so synonymous colloquially means a person that takes everything into question, and basically the opposite position."

Here without conviction, the case represents the opposite party.

The suspicion that domain and powermac their beliefs without
carefully
And often they enter synonymous as
deus ex machina
Gruß Johannes




Antwort von Axel:

"nicecam" wrote:
Here I have found the following definition: devil's advocate: a person is of the conviction without the cause of the counterparty.


"domain" says wise things, but I think deliberately makes itself vulnerable. Why should anyone read and write in a forum that looks at the whole Videotentum a waste of time? That would be a waste of time squared. I myself spend too much time here, selbstzweckhafte distraction. But I fit the clientele, I have chosen the red pill synonymous.
Therefore seem to me domains Undiagnosed judgments as fine prints. The thread in which he writes synonymous, referring not only to technical baloney:

Quote:
It's probably more to the content, the story than just craftsmanship.


"Maybe." What an extremely cautious statement!

"nicecam" wrote:
Write to the suspicion that domain and powermac their beliefs without deliberation, we do not want to expose it.


Yes, and if we read all the synonyms for "caution" and even consider their significance for us, we can perhaps beatify ;-)



Antwort von B.DeKid:

Come tell me what I synonymous to ....

All NOT THE MAN IN THE FOREST MUSHROOMS DOES, IT MUST BE EATING;-o

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Moritzk:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
Come tell me what I synonymous to ....

All NOT THE MAN IN THE FOREST MUSHROOMS DOES, IT MUST BE EATING;-o

MfG
B. DeKid


On your contribution to my first short film I've been waiting for days ... and now you disappoint me so ... so goes the no sir.

Best regards, Moritz



Antwort von domain:

"Axel" wrote:

I myself spend too much time here, selbstzweckhafte distraction. But I fit the clientele ...

(As a 62-year-old, already 7 years into retirement), it is not just about my mental gymnastics and distraction. It's been an extraordinary experience, may understand better s.sich of film. I noticed, not least during the cutting of his own material, but increasingly synonymous parsing of various other videos, as one the language of the medium is aware of more intense and clearer.
I have this hobby is now time to launch hard at my senior physician for dementia in the general geriatric.



Antwort von Axel:

That is in itself a contribution as a well-cut film, rounded off with a humor that made me excited.



Antwort von B.DeKid:

I'm in Momentn nen little too much sorry about the ears.

Gotcha but not forgotten ... so just stay loose ;-)
This becomes

CU

MfG
B. DeKid



Antwort von Moritzk:

"B. DeKid" wrote:
I'm in Momentn nen little too much sorry about the ears.

Gotcha but not forgotten ... so just stay loose ;-)
This becomes

CU

MfG
B. DeKid


Then everything's good! Then just look at the country you win by then :-)

Regards



Antwort von Moritzk:

"Axel" wrote:
That is in itself a contribution as a well-cut film, rounded off with a humor that made me excited.


Thank you very much!




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