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Frage von Joseph1:


Hi,

For a small digital video productions in HD, we are on the search
for a lighting set and lighting to rooms under 20m2
(Possibly with people) auszuleuchen.
It is for guest rooms of accommodation.
Is to say the recordings are held in sterile studio.
Filmed during the day.
Now we need a few lights at various shadow
to remove and lighten any dark spots.

We have already asked us for a few shops, but unfortunately
Feeback was far from clear what the matter
for us extremely difficult.
From halogen to LED panel light and natural light with fluorescent tubes
was all there.

Am for your tips / opinions greatly appreciated.
The cost is expected to amount to ¬ 1000th

Thank you!

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Antwort von Charlinsky:

Hi,
for under ¬ 1000, - you can take a 3x combination of Arris Sachtler or 350s. I personally prefer - since I have - the Arri. Are top of the processing here, delivered by the Fresnel lens super light of the inside out and are synonymous focusable, I can only recommend.
Moreover s.Markt actually the best.

LG
Charly

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Joseph1" wrote: It is for guest rooms of accommodation.
Do not you think there is enough porn on the market?

Matthias

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Antwort von Joseph1:

"Charlinsky" wrote: Hi,
for under ¬ 1000, - you can take a 3x combination of Arris Sachtler or 350s. I personally prefer - since I have - the Arri. Are top of the processing here, delivered by the Fresnel lens super light of the inside out and are synonymous focusable, I can only recommend.
Moreover s.Markt actually the best.

LG
Charly


Hi Charly,

Thanks for the info.
But I get so noProbleme with the color temp. by the incident light. The rooms are, of course, but look especially bright and clean

VG
Joesph

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Antwort von Joseph1:

"Pianist" wrote: "Joseph1" wrote: It is for guest rooms of accommodation.
Do not you think there is enough porn on the market?

Matthias


Saving you should contact stupid and unnecessary comment.
We are working in the tourism advertising - not everyone is in the same wasteland as you!

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Joseph1" wrote: But I get so noProbleme with the color temp. by the incident light. The rooms are, of course, but look especially bright and clean

You have to decide whether you glow with artificial light or daylight want. If you opt for artificial light, then you need window film with orange tape it. If natural light is desired, then the

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Antwort von Charlinsky:

Hi,
ne, not really. But of course have to first make the manual white balance, then haste noProbleme it.

LG
Charly

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Charlinsky" wrote: Hi,
ne, not really. But of course have to first make the manual white balance, then haste noProbleme it.

But then it is still out of blue. But anyway I am a mystery how he wants to put the small narrow board room an appealing manner. That would be a kind of "interior photography" and is thus extremely expensive. If I make a tourism film, I would certainly show noPensionszimmer ...

Matthias

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Antwort von Joseph1:

"Pianist" wrote: "Joseph1" wrote: But I get so noProbleme with the color temp. by the incident light. The rooms are, of course, but look especially bright and clean

You have to decide whether you glow with artificial light or daylight want. If you opt for artificial light, then you need window film with orange tape it. If natural light is desired, then the

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Antwort von Charlinsky:

If he is in the middle window, it can be a problem, but if it is sideways ... Always look back at various reports and features our highly acclaimed and oh-so-high-tech TV world.
And an approximately 20 square meters. large room to film appealing, why not?
LG
Charly

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Antwort von Jott:

The best no light. Always looks better than rumzustümpern with cheap solutions.

Look at the usual hotel clips for example on hrs.de to: DSLR, wide angle, Tripod, little slider, finished.

If light, then just go soft daylight areas (such as synonymous comes through the window). Kinoflo 4 "/ 4_Bank with Daylight tubes and is good. One of these you get for your budget including C-level as China imitation called Cineflo the Romanians.


"Mask off the windows with Orange film already deposited at once,
synonymous because the windows are shown in film. "

Hm? Just makes one's but if you want to be sure to work with artificial light and the window should still be in the image. Do you think this will look in orange? Not at all, but white. Without the film, it would be in the movie blue.

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Antwort von Joseph1:

Quote: But then it is still out of blue.
Just just!
It does not so much synonymous 2-3 halogen spotlights set up around it
with blue filter to darken again.

Quote: But anyway I am a mystery how he wants to put the small narrow board room an appealing manner. That would be a kind of "interior photography" and is thus extremely expensive. If I make a tourism film, I would certainly show noPensionszimmer ...
As a guest, you are naturally very interested in how the rooms really look like. A little background music swing of zither music should then be enough.

Matthias

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Joseph1" wrote: Just to understand this correctly - Shooting Indoors with halogen lighting when daylight is allowed, either orange or halogen blue window - correct?
That was shortened quite ... :-)

Still expressed a twist: artificial lighting is orange and light is blue. Problems arise when both mixes. Therefore, you should first consider whether you convert daylight to artificial light (blue plate in front halogen lamps) or whether it converts sunlight to artificial light (Orange film before window). Or whether one takes the same daylight-area lights. For there is still a problem: Daylight is usually much, and artificial light is usually enough. And artificial light with blue disc is even less. This means that you have in pretty much light to face the light of many to arrive outside. With the soft lights you have there s.ehesten the chance to come with little effort at reasonable results.

Matthias

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Antwort von domain:

An additional active illumination, I would first do not even think that may destroy a realistic lighting effect.
Rather, I would sometimes think s.Aufhellflächen for the shadow, which does not have to be visible in the image. And there are many ways of professional whitening agents apart synonymous projection screens on stands or Picknikdecken which are silver coated on the back.
If that's not enough then stop HMI lights brighten borrow and indirectly.

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Antwort von Axel:

Quote: Filmed during the day.

The board is in hell. The hotel manager is probably the bat man from Jeepers Creepers. I would not put too much money in the Lighting.

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Antwort von Joseph1:

"Pianist" wrote: "Joseph1" wrote: Just to understand this correctly - Shooting Indoors with halogen lighting when daylight is allowed, either orange or halogen blue window - correct?
That was shortened quite ... :-)

Still expressed a twist: artificial lighting is orange and light is blue. Problems arise when both mixes. Therefore, you should first consider whether you convert daylight to artificial light (blue plate in front halogen lamps) or whether it converts sunlight to artificial light (Orange film before window). Or whether one takes the same daylight-area lights. For there is still a problem: Daylight is usually much, and artificial light is usually enough. And artificial light with blue disc is even less. This means that you have in pretty much light to face the light of many to arrive outside. With the soft lights you have there s.ehesten the chance to come with little effort at reasonable results.

Matthias


All right, understood habs, thank you very much!
Remains to be seen how many of these soft lights are needed.
And what should I be out there suddenly raise bad weather?
Will I still indoors with daylight film the area lights?

VG
Joseph

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Antwort von Debonnaire:

"Joseph1" wrote: But I get so noProbleme with the color temp. by the incident light. The rooms are, of course, but look especially bright and clean
"Joseph1" wrote: Filmed during the day.
I now understand not, where does all in a mine shaft, "the day" the light of day, which should interfere with the color temperature of the Kunstlichleuchten? ;-)

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Antwort von Pianist:

"Joseph1" wrote: Remains to be seen how many of these soft lights are needed.
So out of the hat I would say that it is sufficient to portray two of these lights so that they support the lighting effect of the window. Although I really have doubts that these rooms are large enough for that. And I also have concerns that there is a tourist film when you see as still lifes of rooms. The companies have all but secure a home page, where you can safely synonymous see photos of the rooms. In such shooting I would turn out more of what guests can do in the region.

"Joseph1" wrote: And what should I be out there suddenly raise bad weather? Will I still indoors with daylight film the area lights?
Yes, the lights are not afraid of bad weather ... :-)

But seriously: The worse the weather, the higher the color temperature. And the more the need to shine with light.

If you have sun instead s.Abend shortly before the fall at some point such a low color temperature to match the ambient light.

Matthias

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Antwort von Joseph1:

"Debonnaire" wrote: "Joseph1" wrote: But I get so noProbleme with the color temp. by the incident light. The rooms are, of course, but look especially bright and clean
"Joseph1" wrote: Filmed during the day.
I now understand not, where does all in a mine shaft, "the day" the light of day, which should interfere with the color temperature of the Kunstlichleuchten? ;-)


A German-Austrian Reisch Ecumenical communication problem:)
http://www.ostarrichi.org/wort-7851-at-untertags.html
Austria table: the day
German: daytime
By that I mean during the day (sunlight =)

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Antwort von Axel:

"Joseph1" wrote: Remains to be seen how many of these soft lights are needed.
And what should I be out there suddenly raise bad weather?
Will I still indoors with daylight film the area lights?


If there are windows, they are in the image and you will see the room from the long shot, you have only one chance, to the high contrast with brighten lamps: Extremely soft diffused light to the dark side.

And it requires a little experience and intuition, not, as argued domain has the natural look (with us the light shines through the windows, we are no etap - Mietgruft) killed.

> Very good chance you would with a DSLR, high contrast picture by s.den style and b) a favorable combination of Aperture and ISO to mitigate, then, without any light manipulation.

> The necessary in any case can scatter (in the case of additional light) either with transmitted light by scattering film (> Lee diffuser film, eg at Thomann) or by indirect light, for example, made a> reflector.

With a reflector to redirect the window light on the shadows is difficult in long shot. Why? Because of the phrase "angle of incidence equals angle.

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Antwort von Joseph1:

Thank you for the many responses.
It is obviously more difficult than I first thought.
The bottom line is you can still achieve that halogen for this project is not necessarily suitable.

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Antwort von Jott:

"Joseph1" wrote: For a small digital video productions in HD, we are on the search
for a lighting set and lighting to rooms under 20m2
(Possibly with people) auszuleuchen.


Again, you may already be lucky if in such a space in at all fit the camera crew. Where are then the lights go? I repeat: DSLR, eg Tokina 11-16 (otherwise you see nothing of the room), a short slider, so that's not quite as dead to come off. The with the people I would have preferred it if you can afford noModels plus make-up artist / stylist - and I assume from time.

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