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Preissturz: Apples Shake in neuer Version jetzt für 479,- Euro

Price Drop: Apple's Shake in a new version now for 479, - Euro



Newsmeldung von slashCAM:
Juni 2006

Price Drop: Apple's Shake in a new version now for 479, - Euro of rob - 20 Jun 2006 15:02:00
The rumors kitchen has predicted it already ... Apple uses the publication of the Universal Binary version of Shake (4.1) to the price dramatically (deeply recognize new). By yesterday, 2.899, - to today's 479, - Euro. With this price reduction is accompanied by the termination of the Apple Maintenance Program for Shake. In many places, is being speculated that Apple developers from the Shake team withdraws to employ them in the integration of Shake into a new version of Final Cut Pro too. One may be eager to see what to expect in terms of Final Cut Pro coming soon to us.




Antwort von PowerMac:

Shake Those who know, know how good this thing is. It was used in many large shooting lately.

Saugeil the price! Finally I can buy myself a version.



Antwort von toxic:

cool

which has strengthened to shake it in the video production - that sd and hd - or is it a pure high-end film-tool?

toxic








Antwort von Jens K.:

Wow

And how was again the price of After Effects Pro?

1.500, - stones? For an app, which is qualitatively in Shake?

I just have to learn to work with this funny and Nodes plug-in programming is probably synonymous not quite trivial.

What matter, the part is easy once nur geil.

Hey, was not so zusammengekleistert Lord of the Rings and Koni Kong?

Jens K.



Antwort von mkrawietz:

for a full compositing software is truly a good price.
To answer a few of the questions raised here too: Shake is a mere 2D-/3D-Compositing-Software, comparable with Combustion, Digital Fusion, or just After Effects. Shake is node-based (thus has a completely different philosophy than, say, Workflow After Effects).
Shake has actually been used for quite a lot of movies, but it's complete nonsense to claim that a specific, high production (such as "Lord of the Rings") to "zusammengekleistert was" because in such a huge VFX pipelines with a wide range of different software products will work - the most important of which are often of the respective post-houses themselves were designed and not at all or only partially or very expensive s.Markt available.

For such license prices, it is of course very tempting to switch Windows to Mac - but for my taste, because Apple provides too little security for the future and stability. Shake is integrated with Final Cut Pro? IMHO would be stupid because I would like compositing and editing are quite happy to separate. What updates are going to cost? As the update cycle look like? For example, Adobe, I can look back on many After Effects product generations and know just what I pay and for how long so I have money invested in a current version. But the fact is that Apple set the Windows version of Shake and the Linux version is priced trangsaliert shows how much this really great program has become the plaything s.Markt to Apple's power - and who promises that are not in the Prices near future will be more expensive? From a professional software in their training so I put a lot of time and resources synonymous, I simply do not expect any short-term predatory pricing but reliability over many generations.



Antwort von kani:

I give my speakers right - important in professional compositing systems, is particularly reliable in the development over a longer period.

Nevertheless, the price for the features of shake simply breathtaking.

does not even stands in relation to "development-reliability" of aftereffects.

shake you can treat yourself to the simple times when price and also get loose one of the best slow-motions, rotoscoping and 3D integration tools s.markt.



Antwort von ernie:

one could occur synonymous kidding ......



Antwort von PowerMac:

"kani" wrote:
one of the best slow-motions, rotoscoping and 3D integration tools s.markt.


Alter Falter! In addition, Tracker, Damn good rotoscoping. Motion Stabilizer. Outstanding compositings! The color correction is synonymous not bad ...



Antwort von TheDrummer:

So the Apple store, they seem to know nothing of the new prices - seltsamfind * *



Antwort von sachs:

In Apple.de it always takes approximately 1 days, are updated to the Prices.
Synonymous I can not wait:)



Antwort von Axel:

"toxic" wrote:
cool

which has strengthened to shake it in the video production - that sd and hd - or is it a pure high-end film-tool?

toxic


shake another surface as After Effects, has clearer in my opinion. Both levels are as synonymous Effects in a "Node View" (node = node) above the window depicted as small icons and the hierarchy and the protocol simultaneously displayed by "noodles" (the connecting threads between the nodes) and made editable. With one click or shortcut you are now exactly in the view, needs one, so the navigation is so simple and accurate as you would know of other Apple programs.
Comparison to contribute tables in AE and above all the typical Windows floating window, which must be pushed aside every now and then, rather irritating.

But I think there is no German version, and show how the previous concepts, the translation when it comes, probably quite bumpy.

After Effects, I know how I get to the goal of supporting reading helps in doubt. In shake it all is still in English.

I have only a short time a person disguised in a 5-second clip with Rotoskop. Was much faster and more intuitive than in AE. There are synonymous manual "paintable" motion blur in the mask, simply grabs the line and pull it. I managed not. Such cases require a lot of exercise, such as dealing with any and Bezier splines.



Antwort von Axel:

[quote = "Axel"]
"toxic" wrote:
cool

which has strengthened to shake it in the video production - that sd and hd - or is it a pure high-end film-tool?

toxic


All formats are possible, each "composition level" (ie the node in shake cool "layer") may have different parameters (size, frequency) color depth. The output file ( "file out node") defines the format of the composition.
shake another surface as After Effects, has clearer in my opinion. Both levels are as synonymous Effects in a "Node View" (node = node) above the window as small icons nodes) (presented the hierarchy and the protocol and displayed simultaneously with "noodles" (the connecting threads between the nodes) and made editable. With one click or shortcut you are now exactly in the view, needs one, so the navigation is so simple and accurate as you would know of other Apple programs.
Comparison to contribute tables in AE and above all the typical Windows floating window, which must be pushed aside every now and then, rather irritating.

But I think there is no German version, and show how the previous concepts, the translation when it comes, probably quite bumpy.

After Effects, I know how I get to the goal of supporting reading helps in doubt. In shake it all is still in English.

I have only a short time a person disguised in a 5-second clip with Rotoskop. Was much faster and more intuitive than in AE. There are synonymous manual "paintable" motion blur in the mask, simply grabs the line and pull it. I managed not. Such cases require a lot of exercise, such as dealing with any and Bezier splines.








Antwort von Axel:

"toxic" wrote:
cool

which has strengthened to shake it in the video production - that sd and hd - or is it a pure high-end film-tool?

toxic


All formats are possible, each "composition level" (ie the node in shake cool "layer") may have different parameters (size, frequency) color depth. The output file ( "file out node") defines the format of the composition.
shake another surface as After Effects, has clearer in my opinion. Both levels are as synonymous Effects in a "Node View" (node = node) above the window as small icons nodes) (presented the hierarchy and the protocol and displayed simultaneously with "noodles" (the connecting threads between the nodes) and made editable. With one click or shortcut you are now exactly in the view, needs one, so the navigation is so simple and accurate as you would know of other Apple programs.
Comparison to contribute tables in AE and above all the typical Windows floating window, which must be pushed aside every now and then, rather irritating.

But I think there is no German version, and show how the previous concepts, the translation when it comes, probably quite bumpy.

After Effects, I know how I get to the goal of supporting reading helps in doubt. In shake it all is still in English.

I have only a short time a person disguised in a 5-second clip with Rotoskop. Was much faster and more intuitive than in AE. There are synonymous manual "paintable" motion blur in the mask, simply grabs the line and pull it. I managed not. Such cases require a lot of exercise, such as dealing with any and Bezier splines.



Antwort von minovski3000:

I know from experience that almost all corporate shake of using linux, have made as synonymous, the weta lord of the rings and king kong. concerns due to the recent performance superiority and network rendering synonymous what the Aplle version is bilang was no alternative. a Linux license has claimed about 5000 ¬. what will be a linux linzenz now kostenund there is still a new version at all, or you can even use the Universal version for linux? apple seems to be trying with all means, which has unsteigen the people on their computer, which is not worked out so far.

So who knows what about the linux version?



Antwort von mkrawietz:

This is a very interesting question that I would be synonymous of interest:

1. history with Linux (the price is synonymous for the Linux version, and

2. what will shake out at all? Major updates will no longer give (this is now officially) how it looks but with bug fixes? Particularly with regard to the new Mac OS I can be difficult to imagine that when everything is perfectly running (once Apple has ever released has a perfect release without initial problems?). Even if the price is certainly tempting and even encouraged me to buy a new PowerMac (if) they finally get it, it would be pretty ugly if it subsequently s.allen corners and edges suffers, because Apple will no longer be the bug fix care (just read the mail but that has now been published).



Antwort von mkrawietz:

Quote:
Updates will no longer give (this is now official),


How? Where? What?
Seriously? Shake will remain on the stand to say where is it now? There will be no shake 5 with 3-D space, or what do I know?



Antwort von kama:

this is the text from the internal apple-mail:

"no further software updates are planned s.we begin work on the next generation of Shake compositing software."

then it does not sound as if shake is terminated. many believe it would change, however, quite a bit.

kama



Antwort von mkrawietz:

How it looks well:

http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?threadID=529747&tstart=15 (last post, highlighted in blue).

Apple designs which completely new, but what, when, where, how much, of course, is currently unknown. So the question remains for me: there will be future now bugfixes for Shake, or has completely does it for Apple? If so, it would in my view, quite alarming, and as a production house, I would probably try to competing products (Fusion, Nuke Switch) to - there is at least s.Weiterentwicklungen work (unfortunately, the products) are quite expensive.

I think that's pretty remarkable, especially when you consider that so many working synonymous Post Pro Shops in the U.S. with Shake - which have probably been feeling a little offended, if synonymous in which the budget is certainly not playing the role And get there before can draw on anything, so expect the market.
Against the price reduction, I've got nothing, but as of now that Apple runs completely on the same software from the wall, I did not think waiting mainly because no substitute is available (the FA until 2008, then maybe have a successor? They will certainly times previously) stretch their tentacles into alternatives. Sure does not mutate as quickly shake even the old guard as a private person and it takes me synonymous not necessarily interested in what might come, but the trend goes next and so one must get used to, until one comes with the tool clear of and therefore would be a little security for the future, at least from a psychological perspective is not wrong - at least, bug fixing should be run :-)



Antwort von kama:

So I can not imagine that apple is so stupid, a tool that is so prevalent in postprohäusern I currently know of only 3, the use of it, just stop times oops, if not there is something new in the pipeline.

erstmal now is the 4.1 version out. which was to carry into the next spring. then we will see next ...

kama



Antwort von mkrawietz:

apple makes 2008 a new out-compositing software. nu, they still try 'n paar euro with merit to that old kram. And they deserve, especially with the hardware which will grow some. clear shake and a mac-mini to the price of after effects pro sounds tempting for many. well, I must not have, and 500 for tock 'ne software which is not weiterenwickelt? I can still like 'buy nen dying gaul ...



Antwort von mkrawietz:

check out the views of rotoscoping to shake,

the "dying gaul" has more power than it has ever aftereffects manage it.

aftereffects in 2008? well, maybe they are yes, then where is now shake ;-)








Antwort von mkrawietz:

"Anonymous" wrote:
500 tock for 'ne software which is not weiterenwickelt? I can still like 'buy nen dying gaul ...


This is precisely the point which would be clarified: it has 2008, the option to upgrade to the successor of Shake, or must we buy something completely new? Shake not does not matter oller stuff just because it is cheaper now available and some subsequent developed - until now they could very well work with it, why should not synonymous even 1 or 2 years next (I can still synonymous forever the Logic version 5 auf'm PC use and am only) recently geswitched to Steinberg, but even early next year comes a new Mac OS - is the current shake then run Hassle synonymous, or even because we must reckon with problems? If no more updates to come, it can very quickly go back and Apple will not previously been synonymous unbeding quickly, as regards bugfixing - see Logic, which after the 2nd (paid) update some ran.

Well, we'll wait ...



Antwort von PowerMac:

People, she speculates. Why there should be no more bug fixes? The current version will be securely stored with updates, if appropriate. It may well be that at some point next this or the following year comes out a newly developed version 5. Well, and? Do you think that will be free once again to 5000 euros? Or put everything in front of the shadow? Sure will be somewhat different, but nothing more. In two years there will be synonymous AfterEffects 8th

And why should stop Apple Shake? Because it is so unpopular and bad? So just hit her once the new UB version cheap out. And make it then a simple. Clear.

And of course Shake 4.1 synonymous runs on OS X 10.5. Everything else would be stupid.



Antwort von keineahnung:

naja I stay at eyeon fusion: D




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