Frage von moviejohn2005:
The search of a friendly journalist has shown to Premiere and HD Sat1/Pro7:
HD material is broadcast
So 1920x1080 = 2,000,000 pixels
1370 x 744 = 1,019,280 pixels, therefore (1280 * 720)
500,000 pixels synonymous with 720p when we rejected as broadcast HD material. "We do not want a new debate in terms of HD and a professional production standards were" as the statements of the HD Responsible (SAT1) and (PREMIERE HD).
(the names are familiar to me ..)
For me, the right decision ... 500,000 pixels is just too little, and not a professional HD ausschaut no preference as the Picture. DVX100 is synonymous makes beautiful pictures and still no HD.
Premier/Sat1 can not if you sell 500,000 pixels than any HD HDTV can show 1920x1080 pixels. For me as a consumer / user of a device HDTV and HD-DVD Buyers a logical and correct decision.
Antwort von wolfgang:
1370 x 744 = 1,019,280 pixels so
Ask what kind of a format? This is neither HDV1 nor HDV2??
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
1370 x 744 = 1,019,280 pixels so
Ask what kind of a format? This is neither HDV1 nor HDV2?? Hello Wolfgang, Varicam ... with 1280 * 720 effective
Antwort von PowerMac:
Feedster not the troll!
Antwort von mrhellstein:
To this day, is held 720p (or more likely i) as one of the probable and promising future broadcast formats in Europe. Can we hereby take to the grave?
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
Feedster not the troll! Hello PowerMac, I can probably do what I want, your comments keep me and the users of this forum probably never be spared.
I try to help with this posting, as in several other to those who are faced with the decision to issue 5OOO .- instead of ¬ 2000 .- ¬ for a DVX100. That's it. If you are of the opinion that what is wrong is wrong .... a meaningful ... you are of other opinion. What I post ... then sages ... but implying it!
Comments such as helping blödsinn, troll etc ... neither I nor the other, and you or your reputation is certainly not synonymous.
Gruss
movie john
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
To this day, is held 720p (or more likely i) as one of the probable and promising future broadcast formats in Europe. Can we hereby take to the grave? No. 720P is indeed accepted, but it is 1280 * 720 and this is true as far as I am not proof of the HVX200.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Ok, so the 720p - well at least something. In addition to full HD Resolutionalso. Why should we then take to the grave 720p?
Antwort von mrhellstein:
Ok, so the 720p - well at least something. In addition to full HD Resolutionalso. Why should we then take to the grave 720p? If you want to produce HD broadcast material, ranging from non-AVX200 halt. (representing only 960 * 720) and do not necessarily like 1280 * 720., in this case, the HVX200 can not use so I do not think that the HVX200 is a bad camera. On the contrary, for certain applications, and certainly good for PAL TV broadcasts, the material is certainly acceptable. Had (clearly downconvertieren)
Caution is in my opinion, offered a HVX200 purchase with the intent to produce HD broadcast material and or sell an HD-DVD. Then it works out well.
Antwort von wolfgang:
If this is true, then will probably be easier for many people, anzulachen is either a HDV1 camcorder - which produces at least 720 Astreines 25p, or extrapolate from HDV2 equal to HD - which delivers synonymous not such a bad quality.
Whether that's enough for broadcasters, I do not know. Somehow, I'm happy when I come to look at the messages of the last time to try to produce nothing for transmitter / need to. For home users will probably both HDV1 as synonymous HDV2 enough - for now.
Antwort von PowerMac:
It is therefore nonsense because:
1) DVCPRO HD at 720p per se is only 960x720. Nothing more. Which is sufficient to Resolutionder HVX200. The ever more Varicam (quoting seen here before, no one has) stores in the low resolution. Even if the Resolutionbei the Varicam is higher. Limiting is always the final link in the signal chain - here the "bad" DVCPROHD.
2) Man of the mathematical number of non s.Pixeln on the effective line resolution and the picture may include impression. The Resolutionder HVX may be bad for Grautafeln, not for anything else. We have already
http://forum.slashcam.de/aghvx200-hat-nur-370000-pixel-nicht-hd-oder-vt35128.html?highlight = feed: / / toshpit.blogs.com / the_toshpit / atom.xml. Interestingly synonymous with the thread dvxuser: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=47570&highlight=pixel+count
What movie tells John is simply not true. The camera people there, the author index HVX and DVX-book, etc., in short, everyone can see the way synonymous.
Keywords: horizontal and vertical pixel shift.
Look at the sample videos and Samplesan. In Hvxuser gibts 20 pages full of them.
3) Resolutionweniger important than color quality, color gamut, dynamic range, sensitivity. But remember: the Resolutionist so not too bad, as claimed Movie John.
4) The film is highly stylized and not, supposed technical views of MAZ-technicians.
Antwort von mrhellstein:
If this is true, then will probably be easier for many people, anzulachen is either a HDV1 camcorder - which produces at least 720 Astreines 25p, or extrapolate from HDV2 equal to HD - which delivers synonymous not such a bad quality.
Whether that's enough for broadcasters, I do not know. Somehow, I'm happy when I come to look at the messages of the last time to try to produce nothing for transmitter / need to. For home users will probably both HDV1 as synonymous HDV2 enough - for now. Hello Wolfgang,
I would be of the idea of professional HD production with semi-pro pass cameras.
HDV because certainly be among them.
I myself am a Panasonic customer and I love the look of the DVX100 or the synonymous AVX200 offer. My intentions., Synonymous already in several other postings are honestly expressed concerns that the HVX200 synonymous delivers true HD material, and what I meant in terms of pixels.
Somehow even a standard here, otherwise I'll take my DVX100 all convert to HD, then call HD and sell it as HD. That can not be.
So the production formats are eg:
SonyF900 CineAlta:
1080p24/23.98 4:22
1440x1080 pixels Y channel
480x1080 pixels CC channels (3:1:1 chroma filtering)
135Mbps data rate
8-bit
Panasonic VariCam:
Based on 720p60 4:2:2
960x720 pixels for Y channel
480x720 pixels for CC channels (4:2:2 chroma filtering)
100Mbps data rate
8-bit
SonyHDCAM-SR:
Based on 1080p24/23.98 4:4:4
1920x1080 pixels 3 channels (R'G'B ')
440Mbps data rate
10-bit
Anything below it is a HD (as far as the material for broadcasters so) does not remain in question. Technically, image design, look, content, etc. are a completely different question. Should you succeed in producing the next blockbuster to your movie will be shown on TV and in movies may be broadcast on HD synonymous with the words HD broadcast.
A pity that Panasonic makes a big secret from the pixels of the HVX200. Synonymous None I can explain why, as know not how much hergibt the camera. Has a bad aftertaste ..
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
If this is true, then will probably be easier for many people, anzulachen is either a HDV1 camcorder - which produces at least 720 Astreines 25p, or extrapolate from HDV2 equal to HD - which delivers synonymous not such a bad quality.
Whether that's enough for broadcasters, I do not know. Somehow, I'm happy when I come to look at the messages of the last time to try to produce nothing for transmitter / need to. For home users will probably both HDV1 as synonymous HDV2 enough - for now.
Hello Wolfgang,
I would be of the idea of professional HD production with semi-pro pass cameras.
HDV because certainly be among them.
I myself am a Panasonic customer and I love the look of the DVX100 or the synonymous AVX200 offer. My intentions., Synonymous already in several other postings are honestly expressed concerns that the HVX200 synonymous delivers true HD material, and what I meant in terms of pixels.
Somehow even a standard here, otherwise I'll take my DVX100 all convert to HD, then call HD and sell it as HD. That can not be.
So the production formats are eg:
SonyF900 CineAlta:
1080p24/23.98 4:22
1440x1080 pixels Y channel
480x1080 pixels CC channels (3:1:1 chroma filtering)
135Mbps data rate
8-bit
Panasonic VariCam:
Based on 720p60 4:2:2
960x720 pixels for Y channel
480x720 pixels for CC channels (4:2:2 chroma filtering)
100Mbps data rate
8-bit
SonyHDCAM-SR:
Based on 1080p24/23.98 4:4:4
1920x1080 pixels 3 channels (R'G'B ')
440Mbps data rate
10-bit
Anything below it is a HD (as far as the material for broadcasters so) does not remain in question. Technically, image design, look, content, etc. are a completely different question. Should you succeed in producing the next blockbuster to your movie will be shown on TV and in movies may be broadcast on HD synonymous with the words HD broadcast.
A pity that Panasonic makes a big secret from the pixels of the HVX200. Synonymous None I can explain why, as know not how much hergibt the camera. Has a bad aftertaste .. Sorry ... this answer was of movie john s.wolfgang .. forgot to login! sorry!
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
It is therefore nonsense because:
1) DVCPRO HD at 720p per se is only 960x720. Nothing more. Which is sufficient to Resolutionder HVX200. The ever more Varicam (quoting seen here before, no one has) stores in the low resolution. Even if the Resolutionbei the Varicam is higher. Limiting is always the final link in the signal chain - here the "bad" DVCPROHD.
2) Man of the mathematical number of non s.Pixeln on the effective line resolution and the picture may include impression. The Resolutionder HVX may be bad for Grautafeln, not for anything else. We have already http://forum.slashcam.de/aghvx200-hat-nur-370000-pixel-nicht-hd-oder-vt35128.html?highlight = discussed. Also here is the solution: feed: / / toshpit.blogs.com / the_toshpit / atom.xml. Interestingly synonymous with the thread dvxuser: http://www.dvxuser.com/V6/showthread.php?t=47570&highlight=pixel+count
What movie tells John is simply not true. The camera people there, the author index HVX and DVX-book, etc., in short, everyone can see the way synonymous.
Keywords: horizontal and vertical pixel shift.
Look at the sample videos and Samplesan. In Hvxuser gibts 20 pages full of them.
3) Resolutionweniger important than color quality, color gamut, dynamic range, sensitivity. But remember: the Resolutionist so not too bad, as claimed Movie John.
4) The film is highly stylized and not, supposed technical views of MAZ-technicians. Well, finally, yes it is. powermac,
Thank you! Hmmm that's interesting, a starting point.
Just my opinion, not correct. You are referring to you right at the Y-channel?
Accordingly SonyCine Alta characterized synonymous only to 1440x1080.
The Varicam 960x720 pixels for Y .. that would be correct.
What was probably the AVX200 so doing ... in this regard I have no idea, but a premonition.
It is true what is right ... well if we are getting closer.
Antwort von K.-D. Schmidt:
Somehow, I have not understood something.
Citation (of Film-TV-video):
"With the Panasonic HVX200 sends an extremely versatile camcorder into the race, the same terms as synonymous with SD can record in HD. When the HVX200 Picture and sound recording on cassette, which is basically only in DV mode, ie with standard resolution (576i) instead . is recorded to P2 memory card, there are still several other formats are possible: In addition to the SD variants DV, DVCPRO, DVCPRO50, and can be synonymous to the HVX200 to record in HD, and while in DVCPRO HD format with 1080 lines and 25p or 50i, as well as with 720 Lines and 50p, 25p and 25PN.
In the popular HDV format can not record the HVX200. This is a crucial difference to the HDV camcorders of Sony, JVC and Canon. Panasonic has deliberately opted for "real HD" as highlights the company - and no attempt to "consumer HDV." The crucial issue for testers is therefore: power is the difference noticeable? Does "real HD" - in the form of the HVX200 DVCPRO HD in 720p and 1080i - actually better than HDV? Again, there is a short answer: Yes, it actually looks better "
This makes it possible to 1080i!?
Greeting
KDS
Antwort von PowerMac:
That is what is not.
The course can accommodate HVX 1080i. The main question is whether the inflated just below-HD is. And if the reason would be enough to reject a film.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Sorry ... this answer was of movie john s.wolfgang .. forgot to login! sorry! Movie John
my comment ware rather cynically - because the theme here seems rather absurd. If a HVX200 is not enough to halt remain only HD cameras on a hugely upmarket. I realize that HDV1 / 2 stop more consumer / prosumer standards. Wiegesagt, I am glad that I have to do it for nothing at all stations - because I find it ridiculous. Even DV-avi occasionally is used - and the HVX200 is not rich meh?
Antwort von PowerMac:
Wolfgang, they last.
Anything else would have nothing to do with filmmaking.
Antwort von wolfgang:
That's what I believe stop synonymous, that the last.
Otherwise reichts stop us!
:)
Antwort von Axel:
This article (scroll about in the middle) holds again very handy together pros and cons:
http://www.hdforindies.com/
Some quotes:
-HVX200 - great color rendition, but relatively low resolution in this crowd. You can see aliasing in this one you do not see in the others. Probably OK for present generation of home theater HDTVs, but not so good for theatrical or higher resolution home theater systems I speculated. GREAT codec performance, since there is no compression frame to frame, all frames are compressed freestanding, which means no frame to frame compression artifacts. This camera is also pretty noisy. Operators complained of how heavy it was to hold sa handheld rather than shoulder mount camera. But I love the way the color looks. You see color and contrast first, later possibly notice a lack of resolution. and:
If I were doing something strictly for HDTV with a lot of fast motion and did not have deep post budget for post and color correction, and had around $ 10K budget camera (assuming purchase rental or metric equivalent) I'd think about shooting HVX200 and editing natively. The good color reproduction requires less tweakage in post, the post workflow is simple and works on inexpensive equipment without requiring HD-SDI, and has low drive space and drive throughput requirements but is still a nice codec.
next:
destined for home-theater stuff, HVX200 looks awfully good "right off the truck" s.they say well-meaning if shot, uncorrected, it looks awesome. MOST home theater systems would have a hard time showing the shortcomings except for some detail aliasing I THINK (need to verify more later)
-BUT for theatrical, the artifacts would DEFINITELY show if filmed out or done on proper truly high res or 1080 res 2K projector. (The opportunity with the 2kProjektor I had. I do not understand what he was with "artifacts" says pixel clouds, stairs or fringing I've seen. Pixel noise a bit like signal amplification, or as coarse-grained film, my opinion on such an increase can only zeichnungsschwachen with a solid color to avoid what the SonyZ1 tends more likely.)
and finally:
The thing that panasonic does better is naturalistic color and good gamma, and skin tones (going into overexposure it does not blow straight out like the Sony (even F350), skin tones going to overexposure is NICE. (...) So, specs are not everything. While the HVX200 kept sinking in the ratings in the objective tests (Chroma DuMonde, etc.), when I saw footage I LOVED it - colors look vivid and real in CineLink-D. Now, liking the color reproduction of a camera CAN be a Feeling Based thing. But nobody chimed in saying they liked the HD100U, Z1U, or XL H1 color reproduction better. I likes it.
Antwort von Nomadski:
Have fun with the limited recording format 25p.
If even Movies is not 24p, and then imagine that can AVX200 unfortunately not!
Antwort von PowerMac:
Oh boy ...
The U.S. can HVX 24p. The EU is the restricted 25p. You can run a little slower just 25p and 24p are already there.
Antwort von Jules Winnfield:
have tested the HVX200 and looks at the pictures.
If the images were rejected from a technical perspective, I am eating nen broom!
The quality is better than the trailers that run at Anixe. And what is currently known as Pro7 HD significantly worse.
people, currently running even reportagen and reports that have been rotated with a VX2000!!
clear is the HVX200, purely in size no EB-camera. It is this category synonymous reason alone not intended displace.
Seriously, the HVX200 is the VJ-camera in the future.
Antwort von vx2k:
I WANT ONE SO HVX!!
Antwort von Kultur:
I'm going to buy a HVX-200!
Antwort von rolarocka:
I synonymous - as soon as I edit the synonymous 720p material, and there are cheaper P2 cards or any other viable, affordable solution. I think if Panasonic would offer the P2 cards with larger capacity and cheaper, they could sell much more of the HVX cameras. Why not patent the technology and can produce parts in Sandisk or Kingston?
4 GB for $ 650 I will not pay anyway.
Antwort von Jules Winnfield:
I know not offer you the HVX200 at 720p, but instead the high-1080i. But that is still computationally expensive!
1GB equals 1 min.!
moreover, a 4GB card will cost 575 ¬, but I must admit that with the P2 cards is THE big hook at the Camera ... unfortunately!
Antwort von vx2k:
True indeed! but you can nem synonymous with laptop via usb 2.0 rüberspieln directly footage! is halt just stupid if you move a lot! ;)
Antwort von rolarocka:
I know not offer you the HVX200 at 720p, but instead the high-1080i. But that is still computationally expensive!
1GB equals 1 min.!
moreover, a 4GB card will cost 575 ¬, but I must admit that with the P2 cards is THE big hook at the Camera ... unfortunately! That is not correct:
http://catalog2.panasonic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ModelDetail?displayTab=O&storeId=11201&catalogId=13051&itemId=93120&catGroupId=14616&modelNo=AG-HVX200&surfModel=AG-HVX200.
Synonymous variable frame rates are only available in 720p and 1080i, that should be of higher quality, I do not think - at least not at this cam, since she has been in the lower resolution Trickery (that's why we went so times in the thread originally).
The tickets cost ¬ 575 or $ 650
Antwort von PowerMac:
1080 looks better than the HVX 720th And the European model is in turn better in 1080 than the American.
Antwort von colding999:
Yes, I have read synonymous, alone I can not believe it.
Why 1080 will look better in the European model, as in the U.S.? Panasonic is hardly developed for Europe other chips have - there is in it as the same chip. That makes no sense to me.
Antwort von Axel:
Yes, I have read synonymous, alone I can not believe it.
Why 1080 will look better in the European model, as in the U.S.? Panasonic is hardly developed for Europe other chips have - there is in it as the same chip. That makes no sense to me. After all, are at the same data rate in the Pal-room only 25 frames per second was added, which makes me as a layman to imagine a better quality. It must also be a reason for the many months of delay in the delivery of a Euro-type model. The little one or the other bug is discovered to have been there already. I'm still waiting: In a direct comparison possible (the NTSC version was) I had to borrow and on the 1080p 25fps - Update my NLE.
Antwort von jeantier:
If this information is actually confirmed anywhere? There's this one
Cross-reference. There are so a functional specification of tractor and ProSieben relating to. Perhaps we should get into the current form again.
Antwort von PowerMac:
No it is not. Can not imagine synonymous. I can draw a few synonymous fictional sources from the ass. I know that is because someone at the BBC and the material well enough.
For me, just a troll. Alone, "The search of a friendly journalist (...)"; to shoot. And "We do not want a new debate in terms of HD and a professional production standards were" as the statements of the HD Responsible (SAT1) and (PREMIERE HD).
(the names are familiar to me ..) "
Nothing but a troll with a modest expression of helpless.
Antwort von wolfgang:
The trolls are always and everywhere - in forums, they apparently grow very well.
I tell once again, so if a HVX200 material is no longer enough, then that would be a rather strange behavior of some stations. As yet accept some even DV ...
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
Quite amazing at what level your camera is trying your sale / rental or something to save synonymous forever.
THE HVX is and remains a camera with an endless list of unsolved problems as eg
Resolution:
How many pixels you have now?
What actually ends up on the P2?
Version:
Should I buy a U.S. version with 24P which is perfect for the film transfer (festivals etc) and even with 60p instead of 50p, but records for the euro market, news, etc., is inappropriate?
Should I buy the euro version only 25p or 50i can, so for the transfer to film is inappropriate?
(Powermac: The HVX200 can run more slowly!
... put laughed so .. what editing system is doing with? As with audio sync? Who's really the troll .. UPPER TROLL)
Storage:
Recording on tape, means it is only SD in there even though I have an HD Camera! Funny but true.
P2 Storage:
Is too expensive!
And if something is cheap you should you get a DJ.
Stupid when in the middle of the performance ... the cameraman. Rollout .. no, I mean P2 OUT screams ... that should, on average, so after 2-3 takes always be the case ... super funny!
Other Storage Solutions?
Conceivable, yes. But ..
1080i = 1min = 1GB
Example:
20min short film, shot in relation 20:1 = 400 min or 400 Giga, where on your laptop ... hehe powermac? to laugh again!
Since the thing will blow, but rather sound and thank yourself!
Storage:
Backup?
Have you ever thought about Disc - Failure?
Times 400 gigs or "copy string" and then where?
Editing:
What editing system can actually handle the euro in reaping the full version of the HVX so zb 24P! Has anyone ne idea?
HVX200 1 / 3 chip HD =?
min and true HD with the appropriate. Resolutionist not synonymous.
Panasonic still silent out of your pixels, certainly not without reason!
Channel:
Using the material as a broadcast channel DV PAL signal is surely clear.
Logical channel of your material as HVX SD broadcast quality and are considered synonymous to accept Diesner purpose.
The transmitter SD material but can not sell it as HD material is clearly synonymous. From SD to HD, but lack some of hundreds of thousands, even millions PIXEL s.Resolution!
Is that synonymous when it is difficult to enter into your head!
So, what is called FRAUD!
If the sender must have access to a 35mm negative or negative and S16 radiate palpation and then as HD. Or material of professional cameras like the Varicam, use SonyF900 750 etc.
HD was not invented by your SD material than HD s.gutgläubige customers sell.
HD has a defined standard, not by artificial inflation of like the HVX200 to HD, HD synonymous when it is called.
Super16 material can easily know how much to transfer to 35mm, but a 35mm production, it is not just that reason.
It is and will remain inflated .....
One more thing.
Pro7 & Premiere reject material as the HVX200 HD broadcast material.
AS NOT HD broadcast MATERIAL::: stands for those who do not want to understand it!
Because it's just not HD with appropriate Resolutionist!
WHO THE NAMES OF THOSE RESPONSIBLE FOR PRO7 & PREMIERE WILL HAVE THE HVX200 THE MATERIALS MAY REFUSE YOU OUT OF ME BY EMAIL REQUEST. moviejohn2005@yahoo.com
This forum clearly shows the need for a debate on real HD is.
Anyone who bought a TV HDTV fit for a few thousand euro, SD, and then it gets sold as HD is the future of commercially available Blue Ray or HD-DVD's or HD broadcasts of the channel which in reality are not HD, has good reason about reflect a criminal complaint.
I personally can not imagine that a sender will take the risk, quite the opposite.
Where the temptation, given the enormous Libray's infinite appears.
Anyone familiar with film Distribiuton knows that over the years than Digibeta format for the extradition of war s.Käufer film rights. In cases where the buyer does not have access to the production have a negative impact, can be kei
Antwort von PowerMac:
Nobody reads this crap by voluntary. You repeat yourself to the x-most times. But I now synonymous: The chip is not interested for some reason. These reasons were linked about four times.
25 @ 24 is extremely easy. Every second German film will be done.
Antwort von jens:
I really want out of your stay out clinch.
Only:
Logical channel of your material as HVX SD are considered broadcast quality.
The transmitter SD material but can not sell it as HD material is clearly synonymous. Bubbles are not synonymous right now on Pro7HD a lot of SD material to HD?
Jens
Antwort von PowerMac:
Yes, which will inflate synonymous five years. And, proudly accept the HVX200 material is not? Clear. Absolutely understandable.
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
Nobody reads this crap by voluntary. You repeat yourself to the x-stem of times. But I now synonymous: The chip is not interested for some reason. These reasons were linked about four times.
25 @ 24 is extremely easy. Every second German film will be done. Power Mac, I have no idea what you want on here. HVX cameras for sale? Apparently you have enough time so you hate them (kacke. .. his expression not in my view), and synonymous to answer on it yet .. What an honor given to me to come. Thank you.
Your stupid outbursts and extremely boring to make the problem more clearer!
Slowly, I even get a personal motivation ... to spread this issue, I've only watched a long time until you once again could not let any of your personal attacks.
Talk yes please .. but in fact such a thing if you can.
So then go to:
Tell me how you hold with 24p going to process the Euro version of the HVX200.
It could use many readers of this solution.
Final Cut still can not or do you?
In addition, I speak of professional solutions appear for a Docu, or short film with 15 minutes as possible. Now come not only with the old 25p to 24p transfer, therefore, that we have struggled long enough and synonymous with the known problems. Why Panasonic has probably sold the DVX100/24p so great ... because we all are soo stupid, or were happy with the 25p to 24 p transfer.
Man you hate problems.
Better to rent DVX100 or the U.S. version of the HVX200 ... do not buy like that, who knows what comes tomorrow.
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
I really want out of your stay out clinch.
Only:
Logical channel of your material as HVX SD are considered broadcast quality.
The transmitter SD material but can not sell it as HD material is clearly synonymous.
Bubbles are not synonymous right now on Pro7HD a lot of SD material to HD?
Jens Hello Jens,
I hope not! And believe it not synonymous.
Stations tend to have good relations with the U.S. distribution and Distribiutor and thus synonymous access to negative. Since high quality and strong U.S. bestetzte films (other tv station to buy the most anyway) does not really always on 35mm (much higher resolution than HD), or sony, or varicam should be the problem for the sender really not.
Sure clinging simply take the lure synonymous DigBeta Master is great!
The scanning of a 35mmnegativ and transfer to HD will cost about 250 USD so the minute .. So about $ 25,000!
Moreover, I have not clinch .. only the powermac has a problem with my factually intentioned comments.
Antwort von PowerMac:
* plonk *
What we especially see that you have
no idea:
The Panasonic DVX100 with 24p has been sold so mad. Yes, in the U.S.. with NTSC. So I would rather buy an NTSC model, so I save the 25th @ 24? Ridiculous. We all laugh.
25 @ 24 is absolutely normal. Serious readers, please own research for something. Any production that s.Schluss fazt, many commercials, short films, all which make run at festivals 25 @ 24th And flips it. If you are disputing this, which is comparable with the questioning that does a catalyst. But to convince a troll does nothing. And when Wim Wenders filed for ...
I let this issue rest for now.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Using the material as a broadcast channel DV PAL signal is surely clear. So I'm in ninth manner in broadcast work - but as far as I know, it was not always soo clear.
Apart from that I consider myself to get away from your argument - and I do not quite understand the matter content. That the sender does not accept HDV, ok. But the material of the HVX200 is still significantly better. But please - explain to me, have some, yes, I want to learn.
But please, this does make for a materially-technical level ...
Antwort von PowerMac:
I really want out of your stay out clinch.
Only:
Logical channel of your material as HVX SD are considered broadcast quality.
The transmitter SD material but can not sell it as HD material is clearly synonymous.
Bubbles are not synonymous right now on Pro7HD a lot of SD material to HD?
Jens
Hello Jens,
I hope not! And believe it not synonymous.
Stations tend to have good relations with the U.S. distribution and Distribiutor and thus synonymous access to negative. Since high quality and strong U.S. bestetzte films (other tv station to buy the most anyway) does not really always on 35mm (much higher resolution than HD), or sony, or varicam should be the problem for the sender really not.
Sure clinging simply take the lure synonymous DigBeta Master is great!
The scanning of a 35mmnegativ and transfer to HD will cost about 250 USD so the minute .. So about $ 25,000!
Moreover, I have not clinch .. only the powermac has a problem with my factually intentioned comments. Own goal.
That's right, scan 35mm to HD is expensive. Pro7 has an HD channel. 98% of the material is extrapolated. The Films s.Samstag tonight are true HD. All the talk shows, documentaries and reality studio programs will still be in SD for years. Because they have no money for a new HD equipment. It's not like that Pro7 produces everything himself. Since one hundred production companies behind it. And the s.sofort provide only "true" HD? Tampered with for a million or two or five ne new equipment? Thus all 10.000 HD viewers have a good picture? And why should the HVX200 HDV, or perhaps even decline? Because it's too cheap, and produces still technically much better than SD?
It's simple: new HD equipment is too expensive for all suppliers.
But, only certain Hollywood hams are to be in HD. Everything else is still years in SD. Pro7 but rejects the HD off of the HVX200.
Where is the error? ;))
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
I really want out of your stay out clinch.
Only:
Logical channel of your material as HVX SD are considered broadcast quality.
The transmitter SD material but can not sell it as HD material is clearly synonymous.
Bubbles are not synonymous right now on Pro7HD a lot of SD material to HD?
Jens
Hello Jens,
I hope not! And believe it not synonymous.
Stations tend to have good relations with the U.S. distribution and Distribiutor and thus synonymous access to negative. Since high quality and strong U.S. bestetzte films (other tv station to buy the most anyway) does not really always on 35mm (much higher resolution than HD), or sony, or varicam should be the problem for the sender really not.
Sure clinging simply take the lure synonymous DigBeta Master is great!
The scanning of a 35mmnegativ and transfer to HD will cost about 250 USD so the minute .. So about $ 25,000!
Moreover, I have not clinch .. only the powermac has a problem with my factually intentioned comments.
Own goal.
That's right, scan 35mm to HD is expensive. Pro7 has an HD channel. 98% of the material is extrapolated. The Films s.Samstag tonight are true HD. All the talk shows, documentaries and reality studio programs will still be in SD for years. Because they have no money for a new HD equipment. It's not like that Pro7 produces everything himself. Since one hundred production companies behind it. And the s.sofort provide only "true" HD? Tampered with for a million or two or five ne new equipment? Thus all 10.000 HD viewers have a good picture? And why should the HVX200 HDV, or perhaps even decline? Because it's too cheap, and produces still technically much better than SD?
It's simple: new HD equipment is too expensive for all suppliers.
But, only certain Hollywood hams are to be in HD. Everything else is still years in SD. Pro7 but rejects the HD off of the HVX200.
Where is the error? ;)) Hello Powermac,
Here is what you say sounds good but risky. If Pro7 SD material extrapolate and sold as HD, I think you hate found a topic with which you can earn good money.
If you hate a reliable source, I would also make a Docu.
Topic fooled: Sun Channel your customers.
I mean that seriously ... the only question is who wants to buy ... because yes, most broadcasters are facing the same problem.
I have an HD-TV and Premiere HD, if I had a reliable source that can prove to me that Premiere SD than HD sold gibts .. complaint .. and a lot of swirl.
I know you do not here speak of premiere ...
Premiere makes sure not ... if it makes Pro7? I can not believe I did not synonymous think that you would invent such a thing. Hmmm
If it's true a real blockbuster which claimed Powermac so!
Pro7 SD material sold as HD broadcast!
Antwort von PowerMac:
http://www.prosiebensat1.de/pressezentrum/prosiebensat1mediaag/2005/08/30/18464/
Antwort von Acer:
The new television standard HDTV (High Definition TeleVision) provides in Comparison with conventional analog or digital TV through the double line resolution so much improved image quality that the television image is perceived almost three-dimensional Who told them the nonsense?
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
http://www.prosiebensat1.de/pressezentrum/prosiebensat1mediaag/2005/08/30/18464/ Thanks for the link ... but nothing that says what I already knew.
I've seen this link but nothing that could indicate only approximately synonymous to extrapolate that Pro7 sendung ... and sold as HD.
Rather, there is ..
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The program parts that are not natively produced in HD and are available, up-converted so that they conform to the DVD-quality standard.
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Never mind that these items are sold as extrapolated HD .. she will be grossed up and broadcast as HD (in the DVD standard).
While men may ald SD HD extrapolated .. but not sell it as a HD broadcast. That's it!
And that was the beginning of an.
Pro7 & Premiere reject HVX200 HD broadcast material as the material!
Antwort von Acer:
I do not know if I have misunderstood something, but here is) but (quote:
The ProSiebenSat.1 Group will continue its two major free TV Programs to convert Sat.1 and ProSieben up and in future in addition to the standard distribution synonymous in the new high-definition television standard for HDTV broadcast in the 16:9 widescreen format. ProSat1 but admit indirectly that they extrapolated SD to HDTV, right?
In any case, the phrase sounds like a conversion.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Yes, that's nothing new.
Antwort von Acer:
Why is being discussed then it still?
Antwort von jens:
Now I, because nobody here is likely to be seen again ;-)
I 's but have already expressed above:
So I have some s.Pro7HD (also seen synonymous PremiereHD-Film/Sport) and one you can believe me: Pro7 does not blow all the movies so (for example, mags, news, talk, etc. on).
Movie John, you're telling us that the Taff in HD or even add 35mm?
So now I make myself out here but ....
Enjoy yet
Jens
Antwort von axn:
If it's true a real blockbuster which claimed Powermac so!
Pro7 SD material sold as HD broadcast! That's not quite true, because Pro7 has made it publicly: Pro7 sends its normal program in parallel as Upkonversion of SD to HD. Only selected parts of the program are sent directly of HDCamSR in HD (mostly as a 35mm film scanning).
One reason for this: on most new high-resolution flat panel monitors provides compressed Mpeg2 SD from just creepy. But after the broadcast in HD on HD Upkonversion even SD looks on an HD-ready screen much better.
Which items will actually be broadcast in HD you can find here:
www.hd-forum.de or www.hdforum.de
Gruß Michael Radeck
HD post-production specialist.
Antwort von prem:
http://www.prosiebensat1.de/pressezentrum/prosiebensat1mediaag/2005/08/30/18464/
Rather, there is ..
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The program parts that are not natively produced in HD and are available, up-converted so that they conform to the DVD-quality standard.
'''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''''' '''''''''''''''''
Never mind that these items are sold as extrapolated HD .. she will be grossed up and broadcast as HD (in the DVD standard).
It is not HD (in the DVD standard) is sent but that it is meant that the HD Upkonversion and by sending it in HD resolution (Pillar) one of the SD-DVD-standard broadcast quality is achieved. For the digital SD broadcast quality is below the SD-DVD standards! (First of all, because of the higher compression for the digital Sendestrecke: 3-5 megabits in the SD-DVD Comparison mostly above 6 Mbps.
SAT1 and Pro7 so the audience only wants to do good! Thanks Pro7, would be nice if the others do as soon.
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
Hello Michael,
just like you say it is synonymous right!
Actually, this is synonymous a separate topic, we are drifting a bit from the title.
So in short:
In terms of image quality, I agree with you, with the restriction that may be the slightly better image quality synonymous with the purchase of a new HD TV equipment comes about.
What some people here do not understand, or want, is the fact that while you can broadcast SD material to HD extrapolated synonymous than HD, which makes sense, even synonymous,
but hopefully not as an HD broadcast sold !!!!!!
Because it just is not HD, but SD (extrapolated)!
Yes, I pay no fees extrapolated to HD-SD ()! ... See, but true HD, that the HD equivalent NORM!
When searching my HD TV synonymous am sure that grossed up SD material to HD PAL looks better than normal, but it should not become the RULE.
The reference HD broadcast or broadcast is useless or misleading.
A note .. such as HD-NORM eg fulfilled or so ... is urgently needed.
Finally, we get all SD material only as HD material sold ... and pay higher taxes!
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
Now I, because nobody here is likely to be seen again ;-)
I 's but have already expressed above:
So I have some s.Pro7HD (also seen synonymous PremiereHD-Film/Sport) and one you can believe me: Pro7 does not blow all the movies so (for example, mags, news, talk, etc. on).
Movie John, you're telling us that the Taff in HD or even add 35mm?
So now I make myself out here but ....
Enjoy yet
Jens Hello Jens,
synonymous're right hates .. logically make the transmitters that.
But that is not even synonymous.
The question is solely and alone ... who is willing to pay for HD, but received only SD.
Those who can not follow:
HD broadcasts not only cost more money for the purchase of the HD signal, in any form synonymous forever, but yes make synonymous the purchase of an HDTV's necessary. If I then only have SD extrapolated sold as HD do I feel cheated.
Of course there'll be a long SD broadcasts that need to be extrapolated to HD, which is of even good.
However, it should not show as HD broadcast will be sold
If you are not the HD-MINIMUM-NORM equivalent. I talk of 1-2 million pixels resolution!!
When the HVX200?? How many pixels?? 600,000? making, this is probably synonymous not the case and exactly for this reason probably leans Pro7 & Premiere from the HVX200 HD material as broadcast material.
SD broadcast quality ... it is logically extrapolated to HD synonymous clear, but real NORM-HD is not good!
An HD broadcast was extrapolated, should be separately identified, or programs that really the HD-NORM meet the "Gütekennzeichen HD" get!
Again, this answer really has nothing to do with the title to start your own topic for it?
It will be shown.
Antwort von HVX:
Who I must say with any camera I've filmed?
In the end, settled what is on the tape. The quality of the HVX200 is surely convincing right?
Antwort von prem:
I just wanted to say that I have in Slashcam forum has never been read a ridiculous thread like this.
If what is said above in the first posting would actually vote, has even asked for the above stations probably the cleaning lady or the janitor. An engineer would never make such an absurd statement.
Regards
Antwort von Axel:
Maybe we can find out whether movie john aka aka Troll host of Sonybezahlt is to stir things up against the HVX to. Maybe he will but pay synonymous of Panasonic, for a total of this polemic threads rather polish their image. Maybe he's just fixated on the camera - in addition to its multiple divisions disorder - and has only figured out how to be temporarily freed from the straitjacket of use to the terminal to the warden.
Should warn us against too stubborn self-righteousness. We all stand with one foot in the padded cell.
Antwort von wolfgang:
Rather, I think the team should consider slashcam times, whether it is not in such a silly thread but want
a moderator to intervene.
A laissez-fair style of leadership is neither perfect nor the children - some children need clear boundaries.
;)
Antwort von jens:
Well, Wolfgang, it's synonymous to overdo it. As long as we all are still able to differentiate things and act according to our age, I see no need for a guardianship moderativer Article I think the Satus quo well and I would be delighted if he stays that way. Where is the forum would be today if there had been human made within the last 8 years in such major changes? No, no. Passt schon ;-)
Schönen Gruß,
Jens
Antwort von Jörg:
oh Wolfgang,
Your claim will not be better just because you repeat it constantly. Moderating your own forum at will, take care of you appropriately.
Slashcam which alone can here have been so tumbled skurile many people from the finger wounds Mass poster, self-promoter, Rohrspatz,
Alls what I know. They're all gone, fizzled out in its own
Delusion. Links are left of the other users. Self-healing flat.
Remaining always be the same type. Questioning and answering.
Mostly peaceful, sometimes cheeky. As the people, let it so it's a good thing.
Long live the diversity that whosoever does not like ...... could go into his own, beautifully smooth styled forum? Schau doch mal rein, Wolfgang
angular Greetings Jörg
Antwort von deepcode:
Wiedermal one, while technically correct, but meaningless in the core discussion.
One must distinguish clearly between time Library / Footage / Industrial, Documentary and Fiction / Story.
Library Footage: Here commodities are sold and to a considerable extent, these are valued according to technical criteria. So if a volcanic eruption or a coral reef is filmed in true HD at the same aesthetic and quality content will get the contract to a Konurrenten that the same thing with less Resolutionanbietet. The same applies to stereotype, "meaningless" standard - industry features of the crisp, brilliant images live in the glossy look.
Documentary / News: (For a unique, exciting or shocking document what I know - 1 months in the camp with child soldiers or something), or the tsunami - Wave of reinkracht a floor under you can shoot with a camera phone and it is sent, because there is nothing comparable There. Here are contents. Does the same for a HD will get the preference.
Story: Resolutionirrelevant when Story and the Film / The concept is coherent. The shooting style and technique but must match the story. A kitsch - the usual high-gloss soap will look, a sloping road movie can be with a Handycam and torch filmed and are still a Cracker. Examples of successful DVX - films we all know.
"True HD": pure question of the recording format. Previously, some are always interpolated pixels except for the big Sony.
Whether Varicam with 960x720 true HD is an open question (slightly higher Resolutionals Digibeta) was, however, simply see the pictures very well.
HVX flay: IMO overpriced and the attempt on P2 cards Money. Still a very good camera with beautiful images, but does - who the Test and the captured DV SD material times with the objective aufgezeichetes on map comparing HD will see the differences in the Resolutionmarginal are. Conclusion: DVX 100 with Anamorphic Buy (PAL version, as well 100 more resolution) and the remaining coal in the light lines, etc. to invest more brings.
Or a used Digibeta with the same Resolutionund 2 / 3 inch chips at the same price if you can make a bargain.
HDV: Pseudo - HD format brings the HD Olang similar resolution in the Picture as long as little or nothing is moving and you do not try more color corrections, etc. perform. On motion, the codec collapses.
HD vs.. SD.
Never forget, for the United States, the difference SD to HD is MUCH stronger because of the horrible with the NTSC television standard are defeated, that is worse than PAL color space, less resolution than PAL.
In optimal PAL material (Digibeta 16:9), blurring the boundaries HD720. Only large, high-definition cameras will bring real improvement in quality. The whole HD hype comes from the NTSC countries, and can we really be cool. Meanwhile, PAL will be sent pictures but already artificially deteriorated to FINALLY make us docile. If one were to PAL in 1:1 Qual with 8 Mbits mpg2 (ie DVD quality) would be given the HD immediately bubble burst.
Antwort von wolfgang:
I think you understand the matter still not right - and apparently only think that I want to restrict freedom. The opposite is the case. They are 3 points for me:
- Basically slashcam to do so, how they will handle it. If they refuse this - and sorry for myself on this thread here, unfortunately, quite rubbish - here want to have, if you please. This has become a meaningless quarrels, anyway where can rausfiltern None more, so what is true and what is not. As is learned not mutually exclusive, because approaches to more None s.The opinions of others. Kindergarten. And pity.
- The other point is the question of what causes the moderating. More precisely, interestingly, it is not necessary to actually intervene is often a moderator. Forums are called "cold communication channels. Because the analog form of communication face to face and body language are missing, the barriers fall - and the impudence to write that you would never say to the neighbors in the face. Moderating is in fact little or no longer needed if a forum community knows that this is happening, if necessary. Alone increases the discipline considerably.
- The freedom of the individual, auszukotzen are meaningless, of liberty must give way to the community in a forum to exchange useful learning a hobby. Learn is only possible in a friendly environment where users do not feel threatened. In this thread here have listened to the opponents, nor are seriously addressed the arguments of the other page. Here was no longer taught, and this position was no longer next developed. The learning process will fundamentally better in a conflict environment, are things we know from the learning and creativity in research today are actually quite well-founded. Moderate means in this context, therefore, only to protect those interests of the majority - and not senseless censorship of an opinion or a person.
So personally, and yet to Joe: if anything s.meiner person does not fit, then you do that to me I personally videotreffpunkt@aon.at from:
But I'll make fun of me, you do not synonymous, I let me take of you my thoughts, I let myself be synonymous of you not judging or condemning, I condemn you, and be-not synonymous. So long.
Antwort von PowerMac:
How about mud wrestling with again?
The first round I won against the troll.
Price: Wolfgang vs.. Jörg
Antwort von Axel:
Wiedermal one, while technically correct, but meaningless in substance Talk .. Au contraire! Not when there emerge as beautiful as these summaries in your. Even mud wrestling is "unreasonable", but finds his friends.
"True HD": pure question of the recording format. Previously, some are always interpolated pixels except for the big Sony. I can not synonymous lament about real HD again only when envy complex Semiprofis (for a definition, there is a separate thread, I was "to understand pro") and ambitious amateurs. "It all depends on the size." Yawn! All right. This, as I call them, Heini's resolution, I recommend the movie "Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story" (Dodgeball). Pays attention to the figure of Ben Stiller plays, dear friends.
HVX flay: IMO overpriced and the attempt on P2 cards Money. (...) Conclusion: DVX 100 with Anamorphic Buy (PAL version, as well 100 more resolution) and the remaining coal in the light lines, etc. to invest more brings. This nagging doubt holds s.Leben HVX these and similar threads. It's not a question of principle. It's about more or less 3000 Ore. One more reason the thread does not dismiss as meaningless ".
HDV: Pseudo - HD format brings the HD Olang similar resolution in the Picture as long as little or nothing is moving and you do not try more color corrections, etc. perform. On motion, the codec collapses. For industrial and advertising films, but synonymous (for Semiprofis weddings, contributions to regional channels), even for the major television stations, is in the form of HDV Z1 (or FX1), however, the process of establishing a sort of standard to HD, or is He already established. To observe everywhere, you have only one video ad Klitsche reinschneien (there's aplenty in Dusseldorf), or look at the camera in the day's theme park at press conferences.
Antwort von Jörg:
So scoff, mock, I really do not want you Wolfgang, mud wrestling certainly not. Since the discussion has started here before, let them continue synonymous here.
One of your prominent traits (as I've met her in the years) you wear synonymous again open display.
Your article begins with the words:
I think you understand the matter still not right why only you always go on the assumption that the others are "uncomprehending" are? I for one would appreciate the other way.
This forum has
no educational mission, the view seems synonymous operators so they keep a clean break back. Also, very few users seem to have the Bedürfmis on regulation. Would slashcam otherwise so successful?
If you ask for a decision as to which user holds the contribution would be useful? A moderator?
Just as companies in certain forums? A moderator who deletes censored when not satisfied, lock, users with silenced worst tricks (makes me say only "darkroom")?
Well, it seems that put yourself in these forums for some time You seem to feel very comfortable. Then there enjoying the dominant mode and manner the leadership (some people always seem to need a leader).
But let everyone else is no authority
here at slashcam enjoy. Since synonymous change a few oblique Contributions nothing in it, in
Contrary.
For my part, then read simply not with where the train runs in this paper was quickly realized. Mach synonymous but so grieve not, and shall elastic. Venceremos
loose Gruß Jörg
Antwort von PowerMac:
Your article begins with the words:
I think you understand the matter still not right
why only you always go on the assumption that the others are "uncomprehending" are? I for one would appreciate the other way. There is no single cause-> result but only cyclical processes. So, blame of little use. Wolfgang is actually for "moderate moderation." Jörg is a polemic against and with personal attacks. I like the Wolfgang do not.
I think Wolfgang sees the pragmatic s.Moderation in forums, and therefore before it beats you. Jörg but immediately assumed a dogmatic purpose. That no one can verify. You do not know you personally. Relaxes both of you. There is already a moderation. Very, very silly posts will be deleted or forbidden. But no one is moderating the content. That is the attitude of the operator and will not change probably synonymous.
Antwort von wolfgang:
The dialectic has been correctly described PowerMac - only I have no desire to fight it, but I have my opinions on the matter. More is there to Sachthema not say themselves.
With the statement "I believe you do not understand things more correctly" was meant rather that I am assuming you my reasons for my position can not really understand - because I have not explained it. That is why I stated it.
some people seem to always need a guide to If you think this polemic that I have an officer (ala "Heil Hitler"? Needed) - ok, since I now prefer to say nothing more. That is probably no longer particularly factual, and sowas I would never assume someone whom I do not even know personally.
If you my opinion so drives up the wall, dear Joerg - well, not my beer. And I grieve not particularly synonymous, do not worry. Grieve, but not synonymous: If you are out and in Vienna, I invite you to a happy time (unmoderated) beer ...
Antwort von moviejohn2005:
A pity that the discussion on that topic will HVX200 - rejected drifted as "HD broadcast" material of Premiere & Sat1/Pro 7 ... in an unacceptable form.
Shortly Powermac to:
I am talking not about winning or losing something here ... that is so important to you, has something to do with what your personal problems. Attempt to resolve this internal conflict once and deliver us of your freak. I love you more than once asked to remain objective, but that kriegste probably net out.
Soon the 24p issue .. I know clearly what our UPPER TROLL POWERMAC speaks ... only I work probably on a different level than he is. That is not meant to be derogatory, just an observation!
At a 1:1 transfer of 25p film runs out ... not just my film by 4% slower than 24p but I got 4% more synonymous COSTS!
In a feature film that is, eg Video25p Negative Transfer to 4 minutes for increased costs, and then each print every time again ... thanks Powermac!
With a 4% slow down 25p to 24p so I have to do to have lots of transfers with Audio Sync. Becomes clear that every day as if it were made so nothing special, but it is .. every one that is wise by dass
So much for the DVX100 and 24p or 25p .. clearly the better picture quality on the other hand, the signal is PAL, while the PAL Camera on 25p but not to 5o i (ie interlaced recording .. just another thought-provoking)
HVX200 and ...
doubt about my credibility ... the Powermac and others here ... is just so much to say.
1 ... this topic has more than 1000 views
2. ... Only 1 person wanted the names of those responsible have been at Premiere and Sat1 in which the search was conducted. Amazingly, or,,,,, only one. Whose credibility must be questioned because really ??????
3. None has yet to convince me that a true HD enters production with the aim of HD broadcasting and marketing a high risk that thing with the HVX200 to shoot, because sometimes it is not marketable but HD is just a damn good marketable SD!
4. I have nothing against this camera ... and the debate, pixel, storage, U.S. or EU version .. truly a great part, 24p or 25p, HD and so true ... is not the end, only for me, so here END.
Thanks s.alle who have participated here factually s.diesem topic.
Gruss
Movie John
Antwort von HVX200:
Have you ever been talking with a real camera the HVX uses? Or have you ever seen the quality of the pictures?
Why does the HVX200 should not be used for HD productions, which has to do with risk?
Thomas
Antwort von Axel:
At a 1:1 transfer of 25p film runs out ... not just my film by 4% slower than 24p but I got 4% more synonymous COSTS! Who wants to shoot a feature-length movie, for the 4% increase in material costs are the Lachpille of the day. At the moment, he would still consult with a real 35mm camera better, are synonymous if the cost is higher. Or he's just turning to e-cinema - 35mm is verbreitungsmäßig the standard in the industry, but the end of analog projection is only a matter of time (the estimates vary between 3 and 15 years).
And although John's movie right that the HVX was not constructed to dissolve for a cinema screen. Some 1080i (or "f", it's not just versus p i, but synonymous to color and contrast imaging)) HDV cameras can do it though (with Ach and noise), but their typical video images from the movies, unfortunately, make a giant -Television. It survives purely aesthetic defects - as often seen - the Fazen synonymous. I venture the statement that the target e-cinema, the HVX directly Comparison with the other of their price range were the camera of choice.
Also the confidential Munkeln of HD TV makers will already have a real background) (see thread title.
So we thank John movie that he has so consistently pointed to these things.
Antwort von PowerMac:
Soon the 24p issue .. I know clearly what our UPPER TROLL POWERMAC speaks ... only I work probably on a different level than he is. That is not meant to be derogatory, just an observation!
At a 1:1 transfer of 25p film runs out ... not just my film by 4% slower than 24p but I got 4% more synonymous COSTS!
In a feature film that is, eg Video25p Negative Transfer to 4 minutes for increased costs, and then each print every time again ... thanks Powermac!
With a 4% slow down 25p to 24p so I have to do to have lots of transfers with Audio Sync. Becomes clear that every day as if it were made so nothing special, but it is .. every one that is wise by dass
So much for the DVX100 and 24p or 25p .. clearly the better picture quality on the other hand, the signal is PAL, while the PAL Camera on 25p but not to 5o i (ie interlaced recording .. just another thought-provoking) Please not again. You're talking nonsense. The PAL DVX100A stands very well in 25PsF. The NTSC DVX stands at 24p with a 3:2 pulldown in NTSC. That is a lot worse than PAL.
The Slowdown is not difficult. What is clear is recorded directly 24p better. If you have capturt the 25p normal and then slow down to a true 24p Batch Project. The O-Sound can make just a little higher. Cutting, music, effects, etc. You can then correct 24p. 24p play as a Quicktime s.end, s.zum Fazen, done. There are thousands of examples where this has worked.
Thanks PowerMac is in fact any film four minutes longer. Like absolutely every movie on television synonymous four minutes shorter (thanks Axel is). Therefore with much better quality.
Incidentally, strange movie, John, the costs are important to you at once. HD brings far hardly synonymous costs. Varicam it costs a little more synonymous. But then the picture is better ... Picture torque or costs: what was that again?
Antwort von Axel:
Like absolutely every movie on television has been synonymous four minutes longer. Therefore with much better quality. Less well. 24 with 25 plays is an average of 3-4 minutes cut. Through the commercial breaks, of course, come back to 20-30 minutes.
Incidentally, strange movie, John, the costs are important to you at once. HD brings far hardly synonymous costs. Varicam it costs a little more synonymous. But then the picture is better ... Picture torque or costs: what was that again? Movies and commercials have always be synonymous depending rotated in small formats. Very common in SD. There is still no conflict.
In movies, the material in the end probably the smallest cost, so let's let this Comparison. Whose work is worth the Fazen, which turns into more like 35 and intersects s.heimischen convenient offline editing suite, my thoughts, everything else is Kappes.
The Consumercams or synonymous, the Varicam is more likely for Independent - Movies, which now gets synonymous in commercial buildings through the 2k scaler a forum. For real hits will find for itself a rental copy of a movie. In hindsight. But it does not trap on for a bear.
