Frage von user:
Hello,
I hope here can tell me (a beginner) a couple of experienced professionals help you.
For a documentation project (it is about animals on the farm) I am looking for a cheap camera with which I can produce the material themselves, then that of a team finishing a documentary can be finalized. The film will then potentially on broadcasters such as ARD / ZDF ausstrahlungsfähig be.
So I'm looking for a relatively small / handy cam so anything between 1,000 - 2,000 euros, with the I with little effort repeatedly in interesting places "it can hold."
I have read that unf ARD ZDF will go to 720p. So yes that would provide that for this format natively record. HDV is the name of the car - or is that in the end no preference (ie, synonymous or what AVCHD always synonymous).
So my questions again:
1. In what format should you take if the result on television then potentially be sent?
2. What Cam would be favorable for the purpose s.untersten end of your recommendation?
3. Has someone links (web /) to the theme of "documentaries for television to create" technical aspects more closely.
Schon mal vielen Dank advance
Tim
Antwort von r.p.television:
Advance an annoying question:
Do you have an inquiry because of the ARD / ZDF for such production? Why precisely should you do it? If it is a long-term observation on animals for which a team would be too expensive or would interfere with? That would be the only sensible reason why the station would handle such material.
Do not understand me wrong, but here lately have been so much blue-eyed thread in new projects suggested which help to direct-purchase more assistance was omitted.
I would like to s.den thread "I want a laaaange Camera" etc. etc.
In general, there are already within the range of 1000-2000 euro, the reasonably good broadcast quality (relatively speaking) accomplish. But only in the hands of an experienced professional teams with additional equipment like tripod, external audio, lighting, etc.
Although the term "broadcast" in modern times a very elastic concept. The exclusive video content, the less critical is the technical quality. Therefore you should clarify the importance of the material you recorded for a production will be.
If you're at the birth of a two-cow are present, it is synonymous as a mobile video broadcast considered.
I do not want to tear castles in the air, but to advise caution.
Antwort von WoWu:
@ Tim
I can only agree because rptelevision.
As regards the technical format, it is currently ninth in the situation, the technical requirements of a decrease in broadcasters to fulfill.
Although you can format the 720p
50 is relatively inexpensive to create, but the 4:2:0 sampling rate is lagging behind again, because most (; techn.) Abnahmebstimmungen exclude this scan.
This is synonymous understandable reasons and applies to both HD and SD as synonymous, because the resulting effects are Whatever format.
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... in the 4:2:0 sampling rate is lagging behind again, because most (technical) scan to exclude Abnahmebstimmungen this ... ... This applies to both HD and SD as synonymous ... What's up? Most broadcasters produce themselves diligently in 4:2:0 formats such as DV, DVCAM, XDCAM or XDCAM HD - but it can hardly be that they are behind their own material does not decrease?
Antwort von handiro:
the usual ....... CONTENTS counts and nothing more! CONTENTS true if the ARD and ZDF send synonymous a 240x320 pixel h264-mobile video!
So: CONTENTS
Antwort von Axel:
3. Has someone links (; Web / books) to the theme of "documentaries for television to create" technical aspects more closely. Yes, although in English, but that is probably the most no problem. A beginner, the technical conditions of broadcasting fitness for a science-fiction television to explain how HDTV, brings nothing. It may be so, as always WoWu writes, that would be currently advantageous setup provides some HDV1 cucumber with JVC HD-SDI out, s.die a Andockrecorder pappt, in a 4:2:2 codec can record. Or you can wait for the Scarlet, but the price alone, the camera also blurs related costs. Or 16mm. A video-based firm has a
labor of love a
documentary
In Slashcam-og Heidi Text Book says:
Do not worry that you do not know everything (and the you'll never be), do not wait until you have a better camera (it is just a tool), and you especially do not worry that your film sch *** e is - he will be with security. The main thing is that the next film will be less bad than before, then agrees with the direction.
To begin useful advice for beginners. You can have it on the ancestors pithy saying summarize: It is not yet a master of the sky fell.
What also will be treated (; see the synonymous> DV Rebel), the flipside is a professional film work. The rules in the head of each participating specialists to the creative sparks little chance. Hui technique, inspiration pfui. This criterion is lacking in the assessment of the suitability Send synonymous where there is a documentary on TV "creates". It is not all gold that glitters.
It can not be a balance of technology versus. Content. Needless to say the technique should be as good as necessary.
Antwort von user:
Thanks for your warnings.
The theme hab ich mal so "some" is designated, so that you know in which environment (lighting, focus, environmental conditions) a camera should be fit.
I'm looking really for the technology (and no professional wants to take his job.) I realize that a massive final editing and additional recordings by professionals needs. But yes, it is like to long-term observations and because I can not always afford a camera team!
I know that those stupid questions "what is the best Cam" are difficult to answer. But maybe yes but dares someone has a recommendation.
I would clear statements about the format (HDV, 720p50, compression, etc.) have been synonymous to help. Then I look at them in the Cam-DB next.
Here in the forum, I have seen a link to Arte, where the work of Videojournmalisten presented. The VJ had synonymous something "small" in his hand. How "small" (financially, not by size!) Because it may be, so I'm not after one year from the production team to hear: "No, their material, we can use in any case. If you had time on miniDV to ... " or something like that.
So please, brave statement before; =)
Thank you
Tim
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hello,
ZDF we get again and again in addition to the standard formats (DigiBeta, BetaSP, DVCPRO 50 & 25, etc.) material in the IR - or DVCam format. Lately, synonymous come very often the P2 chips in use.
The DV or DVCam material comes of different models, often of a SonyZ7 because of a good quality and handy for the VJ's (or media designer) is.
If it is not a video where the editor himself over a long period has filmed or filming had to be hidden, then we always have
extra material in standard formats.
The editor or the second (student) cameraman, the camera with a smaller film, is then only responsible for cutting material, such as closeups of the mouth or hands in an interview, etc.
But I think the question was meant as the material must be, if you have a really good quality and sendetaugliche wants. (Even though this would never be sent.)
And this is in addition to the HDV cameras (like SonyZ7 or products of the Canon XH series) often synonymous miniDV camera uses SD, like Panasonic NV-MX300.
I would generally recommend HDV 3CCD camera, which records to miniDV. I would mention the LowLight behavior and the possibility of large chip size (for depth) ensured.
Here I would HVR-Z7 or the "big brother" HVR-S270 recommended.
(Apropos, with a miniDV-any good television at its DVCPro Mazen synonymous miniDV material play! Own miniDV Mazen come-but in fact rarely used.)
For more than 90% for projects filming camera trained men with professional equipment.
Are you the prices no preference, then we talk again about professional equipment.
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von Bernd E.:
... Here, I would HVR-Z7 or the "big brother" HVR-S270 Recommend ... Given the set price guidelines are likely to worry about such cameras are not necessary.
Antwort von r.p.television:
In the price range I would look at a used HDV SonyFX1 how to get. It's not as Fummel, somewhat weitwinklig and is synonymous for a beginner still quite easy to use.
At least with this camera can be synonymous to 16:9 SD or (better) downgescaled spent. However, it would look bad at 720p50. Ginge only costly in the post.
Antwort von Axel:
@ rptelevision. The tip used with the FX-1, the thread starter my trust completely. Let's see, what about this proposal or for comments of others.
However, it would look bad at 720p50. Ginge only costly in the post. Well, sooo expensive now synonymous not. Moreover, he wants to pass the post office.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
So because of the post-production, I would not worry so much. A top computer you get now for very little money. And you can with your first order for ARD / ZDF certainly afford.
You can of today's HD (V)-Cameras apropos synonymous with SD output, if it is not a job for ZDF goes.
ZDF broadcasts currently only have SD material (with the exception of a few exceptions, such as future World Cup, etc.) But all cameras in the ZDF studio use are still SD, only a few teams have SB-HD ( V)-cameras.
For 1200-2000, I would therefore ¬ to an SD camera, which delivers a good picture quality. A 3 - & CCD miniDV find for your price range is certainly synonymous s.praktischsten. I would then of Canon products recommended, often synonymous if they are highly praised. I think very little of the light intensity and LowLight capability. (XL1, XM1, etc.)
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von Chezus:
HD material can be very good down convertieren.
It is important that the source material is good and it is in HD nunmal (usually) much better because you can adjust more s.Picture.
I would be a good HD (V) cam buy and with the work. Power is often more fun.
Antwort von user:
Thanks for your feedback. Perhaps there is more expertise regarding the subject matter of practice to know. Especially as with the ARD (; and the regional programs) is.
"The answer, it seems like so often fail to give. But at least seems my initial suspicion (; HDV) to confirm.
A high quality downscaling of HDV/720p50 on SD seems to me to understand / feasible as an upscaling
of a good SD miniDV-Cam. But perhaps I am mistaken here? LCD Television can probably partly synonymous very decently managed to be a professional in the post then yes synonymous create?
Tim
Antwort von nachtspion:
I have about 3 weeks before contributing to arte seen, partly with the Sanyo Xacti has been made. Most were the interviews.
Content is King, as has already been noticed.
The argument with the 4:2:0 sampling synonymous, I can not understand (that it is bad Sendetauglich), the PD170 has not synonymous only 4:2:0 and Sendetauglich will desöfteren as advertised.
This is the only snag in this forum. Sometimes I'm not sure whether this is really so much professional writing, or simply people with a high technical understanding but zero relation to reality.
Antwort von Blackeagle123:
Hey,
most material is in the Avid editing studio anyway in DV 25 411 invited. Just not when it comes to blue screen keying, then digitize my DV50.
Is logical that we be better waivers.
In my opinion, but with 4:1:1 or 4:2:0 Broadcasting suitability little to do. I speak here of PAL Resolutions (ie SD) - maybe that's really different for HD / HDV behaves.
Many greetings,
Constantin
Antwort von deti:
