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Frage von kris81:


S.alle Hello!

A quick question, I have before 12 days, a Panasonic SD 9 Camera purchased. I slowly come to the decision that I would like to give it back. I have a golden wedding filmed. My biggest problem is that I picture in the church and totally verpixelt think sometimes it looks as if a gray veil was before. The other was grossly disturbs me is that when the camera moves only slightly, the picture flickers and sometimes it looks as if the picture is drawn under.
When the camera stops completely quiet and not super zooms geiles Picture, but woe betide them is moving. What is the problem?

Can anyone recommend a CameraLink, where the picture is better in rooms and especially the picture flickers not so?

Thank you, I would be just interested to know whether someone is just?

Best regards and thanks
Kristina

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Antwort von Zizi:

Servus:
So I had this camera synonymous .. but only for the weekend: Friday and Monday bought back!
The predecessor to SD5 was worlds better!
The Milky Picture is synonymous struck me!
The extremely unnatural colors and the sharpness is anything like "FullHD"!
Well in any case you should check times if you have 25p mode (flicker, bucking).
For the rest, I can only say: Give it back!
This model is a real flop in my eyes!
7 had already AVCHD Cams (Pana SD1, 5.9 / SonyCX6, SR11, TG3 / Canon HF10 / etc.) and not only supplied annähernt such a bad picture as the SD9!
Purchase the Canon HF100 thee! is the best AVCHD Cam for the price!
or SR11/CX11 of Sony!
The Pana SD5 of synonymous to me like it better .. is even cheaper!


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Antwort von Pyrospotter:

Purchase you the SD100, it has since Thursday and must say as an old film and tape often FX1 user that is really great things for the Money. Even the automatic transmission is super and the Optical Image Stabilization is synonymous very good.

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Antwort von Zizi:

The SD100 würd ich synonymous only buy if you are on manual intervention do not want (viewfinders, focus / aperture / white ring)!
The Image Stabilization is hardly better than Canon or the picture for Sonyand far behind! (poor sharpness, false color)
So what Panasonic is currently on the market is really bad .. (my opinion there will not offend Fanboy) because the benefits do not synonymous with the pseudo Equipment SD100 in the size anyway much too hard to use! The automatic transmission is good .. but that is synonymous with the competition is not bad ..
They should build a real Camera wiala GS500/400 HD image quality with a Canon / Sony / .. everything else is in my eyes does not increase! The SD100 is nothing more than a well-equipped with SD9 MOS CCD instead (unfortunately)!
The only consumer HD cam at what Panasonic is good for the SD1!
Why can not the simple viewfinders and ring miss .. should probably not be that hard!

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Antwort von kris81:

Yes thank you s.Euch now!

Feel of slow sellers really bad advice. I must say I would rather spend 200 euros more, but a few years of fun with the Camera have. The shakes and the bad picture in the church was just too bad. I can not arrange. My thought now is the Canon HF 10 or 100 Are there differences in quality, except that one ne small hard drive it has? Actually, I want that one only with SD card. How is it, for the two cameras with Battery? Mir is very important that I had a camera for which there is a strong synonymous Battery there. The Battery is the most often, so often holds just one hour. Document Camera today to give back, I'm curious as to how the thing are in the store and if I get the money back !.....

Thank you!

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Antwort von Zizi:

So I got the money up to ¬ 20 get back again!
The HF10 is with piano and 16GB Flash memory and can be expanded with cards are synonymous ..
The HF100 is only with SD cards and gray housing but cheaper!
Battery Dennen is rather weak .. but the picture quality is the best at what you ¬ 2000 ¬ -3000 can get!
If you go to great equipment, touch screen and longer battery stehst then SonyCX11 ..

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Antwort von kris81:

Have the camera just now returned! The seller said that the jitter and flicker might s.TV are synonymous. We have a plasma TV. This could be worse with moving around as an LCD TV. Can anyone confirm? Would really annoying, because we only bought 2 months ago.
The other, the picture is really cool if the camera is completely still. So the tripod is certainly super class, but once you shake and may still be moved, miserable. This should in my opinion, not his. A camera is in motion because this motion should be synonymous. Würde mich echt still interested in your opinions about this. Is it synonymous with the blurring of the Canon HF10/100? Me is that I have a strong extra battery for the camera may have it relatively good in Lowlight mode, but not especially sensitive to movements, but that I still synonymous then have a stable picture.

Thank you for your experiences and opinions!

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Antwort von domain:

When an HD camera is moving and slow shutter speeds are used (eg, in the church) then you will be in the frame analysis can see that there is anyway nothing sharp there and this is normal as synonymous. Only it is much more in HD than in SD, where any sort of everything from home is rather blurred.

Can you imagine a professional photographer with a 6 * 6 Hasselblad imagine, with the 1 / 50 sec without Flash free-hand in a church photographed and even the middle of a swing into it?
Socher photos will always be blurred and therefore is flashed by Tripod or from photographs and at the time of the trigger is not operated.
Note: film is just like taking pictures only when longer movies on the shutter button is pressed. Otherwise, exactly the same basic rules and synonymous and phsikalischen the same optical laws.
So it is no big difference in consumer cameras in dim indoor recordings: all are quite a colorful background noise, when most of the gain amplification car raised so that it no longer gives a true black (you call it veil) and all are in motion rather fuzzy images

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Antwort von kris81:

Yes with the church is one thing, but synonymous in daylight, were panning the picture blurred and has nachgeflimmert. Das gefällt mir gar nicht. In the church is ok, I can understand, but it must be outside but a camera, which is sooooooooo not sensitive to the smallest movements?
Thank you and please register with tips! :-)

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Antwort von domain:

Remote because of descriptions are difficult to impossible, but I actually suspect that in your playback chain is something wrong, rather unlikely that only the camera is involved.
With CMOS sensors in combination with an Image Stabilization, however, there is in fact quite uncommon merwürdige effects.
The picture seems like a rubber mat projected in the work force there.
And do not forget, fast pans, there must be in HD anyway no longer give gaanz slowly swirl ....

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Antwort von Zizi:

Do you have the 25p mode?
So with 50i Halbbildmodus filmed?
Makes me wonder otherwise in any case ...

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Antwort von Stahl:

Have before me the new HDC-HS100 to buy-but:
In the penultimate Cebit, the SD9, I had about 1 / 2 hour was greatly excited getestet.Ich of the sharpness and speed of automatic-like the big screens showed.
The first HD which had convinced me (apart from low light).
Unfortunately, it was but synonymous. In further tests, these advantages do not
more erkennen.Vorallem the lame Auto.focus, pumps,
and the lack of different distances at the same time, sharp play, I do not seem to begeistert.Außerdem "schlieren"
to provide for fast movements in front of the camera.
Wonder whether the 1.Test other cameras were on site or just the monitors were better coordinated.
I had the same impression also of different companies in different shops.
As the same Cameras zt. Here are judged very differently, I wonder whether this is now, as with other products (Monday Autos) behaves.
A good cameraman was synonymous to me urgently to MiniDV tape as storage media because of the Kompress. the theoretical advantages in SD picture so again would be weakened.
Of course, still great in HD. But film is as moving and
I search for the best solution for above problems.
Can I HS100 of the material without loss on a notebook zbSamsung R60 Aura T2390 Dary process?
Thank you for answers because of the practical experience.

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Antwort von Zizi:

If you have the AVCHD to Mpeg2 walking you will always be a slight loss of sharpness experience! So I did it with SonyVegas8 pro, Panasonic P2 Converter, Avisync etc. A 40 ¬ Tool Try everything .. after the cut is always a small loss of sharpness towards the AVCHD stream! See here:


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Antwort von wolfgang:

Zizi, do you just maybe still just the wrong way! There is None forced his AVC AVCHD material to spend ... the AVC encoders have not yet been Entwicklunsstand of the mpeg2 encoder.

Take of you mentioned the Vegas Pro 8 or Panasonic Converter - both can only output 1440x1080 - Vegas Pro 8b may be submitted to the AVC encoder is no longer, and the Panasonic can Converter with DVC PRO HD is no longer synonymous.

Try it out the output from Vegas mpeg2-HD, with slight modifications, you can then easily be 1920x1080 as a program stream to the record output. Even as you high quality output on a chain or a little worse, but it is not as strong as in the Picture of cute monkeys.

It really remains to be seen whether future AVC encoder as will be better - the Vegas Movie Studio 9 Platinum Encoder hats not yet placed. Maybe coming soon in Vegas 8c, but the synonymous remains to be seen.

And Warning: synonymous Vegas Pro 8, with 1920s equipment still SD9 problems.

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Antwort von Zizi:

I've really been in Vegas all durchprobiert .. but never a better result as obtained in the monkey! I go here with Main Concept Mpeg2 and then how are you next? Custom?
I watch with a HF10 NTSC 30p!
Am I really stupid for the videos without large losses to render ..?


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Antwort von wolfgang:

No, you're not stupid, just stop demand of knowledge how to change the settings. Is not rocket science.

Yes, goes beyond custom. It takes you about an HDV template, and modified the - I would prefer interlaced.

Would convert (English version)
- Best quality (1 Rider)
- Quality on highest level, 30/31 or so (2nd tab)
- Resolutionvon 1440x1080 to 1920x1080. If progressive, then according to the synonymous change (2nd tab)
- Transport stream to program stream (last tab)

and so a template can be under their own store name.

Where I'm not sure, the question is whether we really should go to Progressive. To do it, you have in the project settings is essential to "blend" go with the deinterlace mode. And tests in Wahheit probably always the deinterlacing capabilities of NLE with - and not just the encoder.

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Antwort von Zizi:

That I think I have tried ma ...
in any event, I put everything as you say above and I shall take HDV Mpeg2 one else I can "program" do not select the last jumper because HDV synonymous with the 1920 does not work .. '
Oh instead of the 50i's synonymous I 60i HDV 60i An example of my images (NTSC).
In any event, I think it is not when done with VLC (Black screen) even with Windows Media Player .. but have a codec pack installed ...!
Why can my WMP on Mpeg2 files no longer play?
Since the last update .. ? :-(
Players who used her?

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Antwort von wolfgang:

That's true, we must take to mpeg2 HDV synonymous change.

For players like Windows Media Player - it is essential that a proper mpeg2 decoder installed. With me coming around in the fall of the PowerDVD decoder to the application of which the material is of course synonymous plays. Also, the VLC kanns apparently about this decoder - on other devices running the actual clip so I can not synonymous.

Codec packages are also dangerous, because as more None knows what really happened.

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Antwort von Zizi:

What should I buy / make / download the movies I Mpeg2 with Sound and Picture can see .. I always thought of me eh VLC plays everything .. =?

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Antwort von jazzy_d:

Remove times the codec pack. Ist schon krass what these packs for problems. On an average PC codec packs have absolutely nothing is lost.

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Antwort von Stahl:

That sounds awful! Grade I because of Comp. 've no idea
it seems much better I'll get me with a new 3-chip.
Then I stay at fire-wire and my Casablanca.
The movie "The Sound of Fear" was synonymous only to DV and rotated absolutely super
of the image quality. I wonder too whether the legal benefits of HD
really are so immense.
My reflections were always arisen solely because I much "inventory" turn and now the best footage to create wants.
Nevertheless, I now produce a feature film without 2 years with the
Cut to wait.
The Kaos with cutting programs and standards Camera seems completely abtörnent.

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Antwort von wolfgang:

Well, here mingle different threads, so your question is even more lost. And some people here are still searching for their ideal way, and then lacked synonymous nor s.fundierter experience. And it is precisely this confusion can be a deterrent, I understand - but that would be the wrong reaction.

Of course, as HD has its advantages, but similar to that available for consumer DV formats synonymous disadvantages - both HDV and AVCHD are synonymous as consumer formats. The tested SD9 of you is a rather old model - today, one would tend to the Canon HF100, which SonySR11 or the Panasonic HS100 look. Streaks in the picture is me with the devices tend not to have noticed - but at a quite rapid pans you will when a high-resolution Halbbildformat always have a degree of fuzziness. This is in HDV or AVCHD more than the last generation.

Cut solutions exist both for AVCHD as synonymous for HDV - synonymous of Casablanca, incidentally, as far as I know. If the PC for you to book with seven seals, would be anyway the way to a specialist a good decision for the choice of the PC and the cutting system. However, it cost way stop synonymous.

I think the employment with the theme very well worthwhile - is this just a little confused arg gone. Of this, however, I would not be deterred.

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Antwort von Stahl:

Thanks for the info.
I had before me the HS100 to holen.Die tests were in the store but
weak ...
I also wanted a good laptop and a simple program.
Pure Play, "coarse" cut and everything again nem Cutter passed. "
These 4 steps but may in no case with nerve, Systemprobl. or
Quality loss einhergehen.Ist already impossible?

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Antwort von Zizi:

Possible already determined .. only is there a financial / time / work question!
Purchase you a HV30 or JVC HD40! They are both in the picture is much better than the Panasonic and offer Mpeg2 recording synonymous latter can either AVCHD.
If you like the focus ring is not soo important to buy you a of these 2!
you will not regret it!

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Antwort von wolfgang:

For the AVCHD can cut notebooks rather forget, because the requirements are rather high. And if the cuts do not have quality loss should Smartrendern work. And that is probably more feasible with HDV.

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Antwort von Stahl:

Thank you.
Now I wonder where all that I can try?
Let me mal.Melde with the experience again.

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