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Frage von embee15:


Hello,

I have a question about the field order / field order, etc.

I had been one JVC digicam, so I could edit the video then normal, that is another field order, I had to change anything.

Now I have had since a few months before the film has Sonyand in VirtualDub durchrechnen even with the filter SwapField so that the field order is reversed.

Is anyone aware that the Manufacturer of Manufacturer to be different?

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Antwort von embee15:

And a little later follow-up question ... someone knows a tool (kostelos?), which reversed immediately on capture the order?

Space


Antwort von Stefan:

With DV, the field order is set: lower field first. Are we talking here about DV AVI videos or other videos you think?

I suspect that your editing program (which?) Does not recognize that it is a DV video, and therefore, the field order misinterpreted.

Such a case, I already had with Canopus DV AVI and Vegas Video 4 VV4 looking at the codec ID in AVI and concludes from the field order. The Canopus ID VV4 was not known as DV ID.

Opportunities for problem solving ...

s.Manche editing programs have settings such as the source material should be interpreted.

b / the same way as with the JVC capture and if necessary change the Capture program. Freeware: WinDV, DVIO, CaptureFlux. Shareware: Sclive

c / Hast thou Sony software installed on the calculator, which you use to record? If so, leaving out.

Good luck
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von embee15:

Hello,

sorry, yes it is DV AVI videos.

Actually, I take no editing program, but only Scenalizer.

But I have used synonymous with the old JVC camera, but behaves differently now ...

A Sony software I do not have on it.

Is there a program that shows how the avi at the moment looks like? Ie, whether the lower field first comes or whether it was turned on capture? That would help me for troubleshooting have a good deal.

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Antwort von Stefan:

A DV camera no preference whether or JVC Sonyoder ... assumes definitely on the lower field first and then stores it in the DV data.

When transferring the DV data are copied 1:1 and put into an AVI file container. AVI container does not own a cat info about the field order, could the information from the DV data to overwrite.

Each playback and editing program (cutting, encoding) must have said, the field order (settings), or identify themselves. This can be the basis of computerized identification (for the cronies FOURCC) car done in DV (always bottom first) or manually through Settings. There are various program combinations that produce this error.

If you do, Halbbildprobleme to have, please let us know how you see so far. There may be as a Mistverständnis.

A 100% reliable, automated analysis of Halbildreihenfolge I do not know. But why do you have eyes? You can see it very difficult indeed when viewed on a PC monitor but very slightly when viewed on a (tube) TV.

For the assessment on a PC monitor you need a tripod from the filmed scene with no motion and a viewer without the deinterlacer as VirtualDub. Incorrect field order are almost (!) Vertical edges (Dachkanten. zerfranzelt ..). But that should not be) confused with the normal Zerfranzeln of moving edges (see www.100fps.com.

For the evaluation on a (tube) TV you need a scene with motion such as zooming or pan or speeding car or a pedestrian ... An incorrect field order can be seen s.der typ dancing procession with short-term frequency ... two steps forward one step back. It is worth time to render a scene deliberately false and compare.

Good luck
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von embee15:

Hello Stefan,

first time many thanks for your detailed reply.

I have now taken a few hours to try a lot, but now I face even more puzzles ..

So, I usually go as follows:

1. Movie Capture with Scenalizer
2. Date paste and create subtitles with VirtualDub Filters
3. I later, a menu with ULead MovieFactory'm here more often and picture / sound was offset, then I leave again Scenalizer share the whole film to date (there is now no date more), which has the advantage that everything is back synchronously.
4. Menu with ULead MovieFactory

So far funzt das

So far so good. But when I after the 3rd Now, cut a little bit and add a couple wants to Articles (with Pinnacle Studio) and then create the DVD with ULead FilBrennerei, shaking the whole picture at every turn on the television camera.

Only still images are clean and that probably says exchanged for a picture sequence.

Only when either Pinnacle Studio or ULead MovieFactory for I find a setting for it, ie it is automatically made and somehow twisted. That makes me really crazy ...

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Antwort von Stefan:

If you are not the file to the 2nd Viewed through the Scenalyzer send, then comes out a proper DVD?

What are DV AVI type you have with your treatment in the different stages? The tool is useful s.dieser body GSpot.

After the VirtualDub-step I know it. It is a DV AVI Type-2 with an extra audio track in AVI. This is the audio track as a bold type-1 DV AVI File

Before you can have DV-AVI Type 1 or Type-2. After the 2nd Scenalyzer synonymous. I think you can set the Wunschtyp in Scenalyzer.

It may well be that the DVD MovieFactory and / or Pinnacle specialize in one type and the other AVI format auto-detection fails.

To speak the Picture / Sound Problems (Type-2 s.The distillery is delivered, type-1 can be better handled) and the bobble problems (type 2 is with Scenalyzer in Type-1 and changed s.Pinnacle delivered, type-2 ) can be better processed. But this is quite speculative.

If you are the 2nd Scenalyzer run deliberately omitting or type-2 setting, then make the Pinnacle editing, then are the problems bobble away (not even sound) in mind?

Good luck
The fat Stefan

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Antwort von embee15:

Hello,

I just downloaded again a current version of Scenalizer and synonymous of GSpot, and going to test tomorrow, just next ...

Enjoy coming back to you too ;-)

Space


Antwort von embee15:

Hello,

wanted to sign me again ... I tried this weekend a lot, but I said goodbye as a result of Ulead's MovieFactory.

I have repeatedly made identical actions. Once geruckelt's has wildly, the next time everything was ok (up) on a completely blurred date.

In the end, I have the file that I created with Virtual Dub, edited with Pinnacle Studio and am in love ;-)

Geiles program and everything comes out clean, without jerking out.

Still thank you for your time and your tips!

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