Infoseite // Questions about rumored VX2100e gray



Frage von YourMajesty:


Hello,

according to a dealer, the VX2100 is no longer manufactured. According to his statement are virtually only available Closeouts and which should be lots of gray type, which is with the warranty problem table should be.

Is something s.diesem rumor? Since when is the VX2100 no longer produced? What would be the "direct" successor?

Thank you
Thomas

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Antwort von Johannes:

I believe the successor will be so ne Hd.

John

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"YourMajesty" wrote: What would be the "direct" successor?
If you size, type and price, then of the FX7 is the successor to HDV. As an old fan of the VX2000/2100/PD150/170 fight but I am against the idea that this legend to be buried ...

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von crazy-spy:

How do you recognize NEN gray exactly? So how can you be sure that you do not have GI caught, but what rechmässiges quasi?

VLG
Basti

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"crazy-spy" wrote: How do you recognize NEN gray exactly?
Generally speaking, are some of the evidence:
- No manual German
- CE marking missing
- From model name indicates that it is not for the German market
- US-plug
- Included accessories deviates of the official claim of the importer from

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von YourMajesty:

The FX7 is what you will read regarding LowLight worse than VX2000/2100?

Thank you
Tom

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

Right. In this thread

http://forum.slashcam.de/der-fx1-nachfolger-sony-hdr-fx7-vt39628.html

Jan kindly posted some comparison photos.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Jan:

Höherklassige pictures were in the penultimate issue of Video Aktiv Digital, on its Internet Page is unfortunately only the HDV test pictures of the Canon XH A 1 / FX 1 FX & 7th

The Internet provides ghosts synonymous test some pictures around, probably all confirm the same - Sony HDV group has no chance in the area ...

No idea, I must ask for Sonymal what truth is. Although it would be nothing new, as I had to learn that Sony's own AV cable with S-Video Male (VCM 15 / 30 FS) is no longer manufactured, and even better at the moment there are no cables or other successor there is none planned. As will Hama but look - they have with the 74213 at the moment a monopoly for Sony Consumer friends with S-Video desire.

That with the VX 2100 is probably true, at least in the sales business in Germany are very, very mau, Canon had with the DM XM 2 but not synonymous easier. And if a customer buys the camera will probably only somewhere in the Internet, tend not to shop.

Some of the owners tried their VX / PD s.Leben mills to keep on improving and HDV cameras to hope.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von PowerMac:

"John" wrote: I believe the successor will be so ne Hd.

John


I think my itches s.Hintern. Oh, that was yesterday.

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Antwort von Jan:

John, my dear, let the fingers from alcohol.

From and to in droplets is nice but does not stop too often ....

VG
Jan

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Antwort von dihofi:

Suppose you would for something more light than the VX2000 and may be interested to renounce HD - there would be ansich the 2100 call. This, however, with earlier rumors said it, what alternative products s.Markt give it? Do not necessarily Sonysein ....

Priced, I would say max. VX2100 level ....

Thank you
Tom

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Antwort von Bernd E.:

"Anonymous" wrote: slightly stronger than the light-VX2000 ... priced max. VX2100 level products ... what alternative there is?
No.. The VX2100 and PD170 its more expensive brother in this class are truly the ultimate in Lowlight. To excel, you have already been in a completely different price category embarking.

Gruß Bernd E.

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Antwort von Johannes:

"Bernd E." wrote: "Anonymous" wrote: slightly stronger than the light-VX2000 ... priced max. VX2100 level products ... what alternative there is?
No.. The VX2100 and PD170 its more expensive brother in this class are truly the ultimate in Lowlight. To excel, you have already been in a completely different price category embarking.

Gruß Bernd E.


Time which, apart from price is the best camera in the area Lowlihgt?

John

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Antwort von gast7:

Times I would be really interested to know what all the obsession with the "lowlight" have ...
At the film's but now is really not about undercover for as little light to work, but it is about artistic achievement and implementation of scripts or scripts.
When one reads in this forum, you could really get the impression that on German roads are thousands of VJ, the only without any accessories with their camera in search of dark, shady characters are ...
Who is a camera for a few thousand DKK, should be really synonymous still a "little" money for the rest of the accessories that one's right to shoot / video shoot needs have. What I mean by that is that it is not the most expensive with best best camera is done, but that is precisely in order to achieve reasonable results synonymous to full and accurate set of light, sound stabilization camera (no cheap Conrad "Pro" Tripods), curious Voice recording (not camera Intern ),... needs.
So for me personally is the "lowlight" behavior of a camera is not the knock-out criterion for the purchase, since I's turning in the night without proper lighting is not working. I think it comes more to the manual controls, the accessibility of the ergonomic controls and switches for manual settings, the reliability, ... at.
I know I have so that the questioner is not helpful, but it annoying me animal, every other day a new thread about the lowlight of the behavior of Manufacturer Camera xy z read them. Anyone here synonymous invests only 1 minute and tried the search function will recognize that diee VX2100 in low light makes good pictures. This does not mean that other cameras in low light does not make good pictures synonymous (eg Paasonic DVX100 and many others). The Dunkelheitsbereich, s.dem you notice a difference, is no longer anyway for Rotate's suitable without additional light. In this area, you should always set with a targeted light ...
Nochwas And for those who constantly ask lowlight: best Lowlightverhalten does not simultaneously best picture and certainly not the best camera ...

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Antwort von Jan:

Because what is it, it probably comes s.was who is filming.

With me under the circumstances is simply important, this is an example.

I film with the PD 170 with Aperture open, 1 / 50 and 6 DB, the picture is at a concert so depending on the light in order. If I have the FX 7 mithab I have at least 12-15 dB gain with a similar result. Unfortunately, the picture noise there in reinforcing already borderline for good shots.

Yes well the new CMOS FX 7 is a little noise at higher reinforcement than other models, but heard somewhere. I did not always hold influence over the lighting of the event.

In interviews, you have absolutely right, who do not have 3 point lighting with you is your own fault. I had often been synonymous with the extremely bright PD 170 an inside interview with ambient light only (no space, no time to build, etc.) do. An interview with the lichtschwacheren FX 7 for leadership with light, side light and provides light to shine lengths better.

As most Consumer & Semifilmer fewer concerts and events on film, as is already markedly exaggerated.

VG
Jan

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Antwort von YourMajesty:

@ gast7

I am very pleased that you have me explain that for you LowLight not a KO criterion is - fine thing to be so. For me just now. So simple is this fact that since 2100 very well with the top players was clear, I have written synonymous. Since I am unfortunately not blessed with divine wisdom, I would probably be synonymous, that there are other models in the GL are also very good.

I do not see it that why I get my 11 months old son with studio lighting seemed to be. No, not with certainty, since normal room lighting must be rich. Maybe try a little mitzudenken times. What is clear is the statement "but you generating light n 'quite simple ...

And so far were not many cameras with normal room lighting clear. Likewise, I will if I play my sister in the film will hardly my equipment up there ... and da isses nunmal synonymous dark. As you can see is for me lowlight but somewhat important.

If it is annoying you, then tuts am sorry for you - nobody is forcing you to be here or is it? The fact that there have always been so frustrated people out there - great. Good, that I do not belong to my life and still synonymous off the Internet. Since I have no great people in the network anmotzen - you have nothing else to do? Are those your only concern? ;-) As always synonymous.

Thanks to the other!

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Antwort von Jan:

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