Frage von Mario Schulze:
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 Hi 
 Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > 
 > I am in search of a device (or a 
 > Geraete combination), which as simple as possible to use. it 
 > Is for two old people, so that the greatest difficulty 
 >, Two remote control to have, but at a 
 > Sat receiver-dependent, because no cable is located. the existing 
 > Solution with TV, satellite receiver and two remotes 
 > Always works well. someone knows something? 
 I have since only devices of higher price category (eg: Loewe) announced in 
 where a Satreciver integrated (can be). Another possibility, 
 only one remote control to use is: either the Television 
 SCART auto switch on, once as a signal on SCART is present or 
 always with the last setting on it (synonymous, when the right switch 
 was made). They then sat Reciver, which offers all the necessary functions 
 (including volume and if needed synonymous VT) can turn. Then only would 
 Television will be turned on and then everything is served only on 
 Remote control of the satellite Reciver. Satellite Reciver that can be 
 at least among the digital widespread. If it is synonymous to VT arrives 
 then you will need to be careful when Reciver that the VT-signal to the 
 SCART to the TV but there continues itself and independently of the 
 Capabilities of the TV output. 
 Greeting 
 Mario 
 Antwort von  Heiko Nocon:

Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > I am in search of a device (or a 
 > geraete combination), which as simple as possible to use. it 
 > is for two old people, so that the greatest difficulty 
 >, two remote control to have, but at a 
 > sat receiver-dependent, because no cable is located. the existing 
 > solution with TV, satellite receiver and two remotes 
 > always works well. someone knows something? 
 There are universal remotes in all price ranges. Even with the 
 customizable keyboard. 
 BTW: The issue here was off topic. No relation to computers 
 recognize. 
 Antwort von  Volker Abraham:

Heiko Noconließ announced: 
 > Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > 
 >> I am in search of a device (or a 
 >> Device combination), which as simple as possible to use. it 
 >> Is for two old people, so that the greatest difficulty 
 >> Have two remote control to have, but at a 
 >> Sat-receiver are dependent, because no cable is located. the existing 
 >> Solution with TV, satellite receiver and two remotes 
 >> Always works well. someone knows something? 
 > 
 > There are universal remotes in all price ranges. Even what 
 > With customizable keyboard. 
 > 
 > BTW: The issue here was off topic. No relation to computers 
 > Recognize. 
 A person who with two remotes not cope, so comes with 
 8in1 even less of a deal. 
 -- 
 Regards Volker 
 Hotmail is the only trash 
 Antwort von  Heiko Nocon:

Volker Abraham wrote: 
 > A man who with two remotes not cope, so comes with 
 > 8in1 even less of a deal. 
 For such a view is probably only one, if you only shitty 
 Universal Remotes knows or too lazy or too stupid was that 
 UFB a good manual to read and their ability to 
 use. 
 Good Macro thanks UFBs allow such a capability key assignment that 
 so that multiple devices can operate as one. "Good" means 
 moreover, not necessarily expensive. For example, there was recently at Aldi 
 a learning and UFB macrofähige for ¤ 6.99. 
 This makes it easy to realize that a pressure on the 
 Power button and satellite TV receivers, and switched the TV to AV 
 switches. Numeric keys and channel / - effect on the satellite receiver, the 
 remaining buttons on the TV. The handling is thus ultimately 
 exactly as if you have a TV with built-in satellite receiver. 
 Antwort von  Heiko Nocon:

Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > Yes, the comp I do not care. and where would they be right? 
 de.rec.tv.technik 
 Antwort von  Gerald Oppen:

 Nocon Heiko wrote: 
 > Volker Abraham wrote: 
 > 
 > 
 >> A man who with two remotes not cope, so comes with 
 >> a 8in1 or less easily. 
 > 
 > 
 > For such a view is probably only one, if you only shitty 
 > Universal Remotes knows or too lazy or too stupid was that 
 > UFB a good manual to read and their ability to 
 > Use. 
 We are talking about older people they are not more frequent in the 
 Location manuals to read and understand that now as 
 stupid or lazy to call ... 
 > Good, thanks to Macromedia UFBs allow such a capability key assignment that 
 > So that multiple devices can operate as one. "Good" means 
 > Does not necessarily expensive. For example, there was recently at Aldi 
 > A learning and macrofähige UFB for ¤ 6.99. 
 > 
 > So it is easy to realize that a pressure on the 
 > Power-button and satellite TV receivers and turns on the TV to AV 
 > Switches. Numeric keys and channel / - effect on the satellite receiver, the 
 > Remaining buttons on the TV. The handling is thus ultimately 
 > Exactly as if you have a TV with built-in satellite receiver. 
 If it is not. 
 It is sometimes nict ensure that both devices have the same synonymous 
 Signal packet is received. 
 Ideally, this may very well work, which lies in the 
 Practice often and not just older people have exactly a 
 Problem clearly to come. 
 Gerald 
 Antwort von  Mario Schulze:

X-No-archive: yes 
 Hi 
 Gerald Oppen wrote: 
 > Heiko Nocon wrote: 
 >> For such a view is probably only one, if you only shitty 
 >> Universal Remotes knows or too lazy or too stupid was that 
 >> UFB a good manual to read and their ability to 
 >> Use. 
 > 
 > We are talking about older people they are not more frequent in the 
 > Able to read manuals and understand that now as 
 > Stupid or lazy to call ... 
 In that case, I would describe the work of reading the instructions times safely 
 who leave here for a solution to his problem asked 
 has. The person should have been created to understand and 
 Configuration, which is then synonymous with the older people after a 
 brief explanation clearly come. 
 >> So it is easy to realize that a pressure on the 
 >> Power button and satellite TV receivers and turns on the TV to AV 
 >> Switches. Numeric keys and channel / - effect on the satellite receiver, the 
 >> Remaining buttons on the TV. The handling is thus ultimately 
 >> Exactly as if you have a TV with built-in satellite receiver. 
 > 
 > If it is not. 
 > It is sometimes nict ensure that both devices have the same synonymous 
 > Signal packet is received. 
 Why? Why would a TV with integrated Satellite Reciver something else 
 received as a single satellite Reciver, connected to a TV angeschlossenist 
 (times of the differences between analog and digital apart)? 
 > In the ideal case may very well work, which lies in the 
 > Practice often and not just older people have exactly a 
 > Problem so clearly to come. 
 As I said. The configuration of the system should have someone take over the 
 synonymous but the use is actually quite simple. Someone, 
 UFB of such a configuration can not, must be synonymous to 
 install / configure a new tv (no preference whether now integrated with 
 Satellite Reciver singly or both) get somebody who can. 
 Greeting 
 Mario 
 Antwort von  Volker Abraham:

Luzia Dietscheließ announced: 
 > Hello! 
 > 
 > I am in search of a device (or a 
 > Geraete combination), which as simple as possible to use. it 
 > Is for two old people, so that the greatest difficulty 
 >, Two remote control to have, but at a 
 > Sat receiver-dependent, because no cable is located. the existing 
 > Solution with TV, satellite receiver and two remotes 
 > Always works well. someone knows something? 
 > 
 > Gruesse - Luzia 
 Does not that dolle out if it is something, at least gave the Gugel 
 Respects not much or nothing better for me since. 
 Souvenirs worth, I have a TV that is switched on from standby, 
 when he refers to AV (Scart) receives a signal (and vice versa synonymous), 
 Satellite Receiver with volume control are not a problem, there was quite synonymous 
 simple replacement remotes with only rudimentary controls 
 (From, To, volume, volume, channel up / back and finished), which includes 
 Errors with consequence "does not" largely. From tiresome 
 Synonymous experience I had ever planned, "superfluous" buttons with 
 a scalpel from the market, so they would be made of rubber. 
 Ceterum censeo, the progressive Minitualisierung damn buttons 
 (Handy!) Now synonymous already overtaxed eyes and fingers of the 
 medieval like me ;-). 
 -- 
 Regards Volker 
 Hotmail is the only trash 
 Antwort von  Heiko Nocon:

Gerald Oppen wrote: 
 > We are talking about older people they are not more frequent in the 
 > Able to read manuals and understand that now as 
 > stupid or lazy to call ... 
 The old people should not be the thing up myself, but 
 only one from the OP to configure solution. So I have the 
 Posting of the OP in any case understood. 
 In addition, should the old dominions synonymous with buying a TV with 
 Satellite Receiver with FB which clearly come. The complexity problem _dieses_ 
 remains the same ... 
 > It is sometimes nict ensure that both devices have the same synonymous 
 > Signal packet is received. 
 Nope, this is certainly not guaranteed, as neither useful nor 
 desirable. It is totally, if each of the devices for the 
 each particular device receives signal packets. And that is exactly 
 ensure safe than if you used two separate FB. 
 
 Antwort von  Gerald Oppen:

 Mario Schulze wrote: 
 > In that case, I would describe the work of reading the instructions times safely 
 > Who leave here for a solution to his problem asked 
 > Has. The person should have been created to understand and 
 > Configuration, which is then synonymous with the older people after a 
 > Brief explanation clearly come. 
 An equation with many unknown ... 
 > Why? Why would a TV with integrated Satellite Reciver something else 
 > Receive a single satellite Reciver, connected to a TV angeschlossenist 
 > (Times of the differences between analog and digital apart)? 
 Because of an integrated satellite only one IR receiver uses 
 is. In two independent devices seiht the infrared eye 
 immerdas same as the others. 
 >> In the ideal case may very well work, which lies in the 
 >> Practice and often not just older people have exactly a 
 >> Problem so clearly to come. 
 > 
 > 
 > As I said. The configuration of the system should have someone take over the 
 > Synonymous but the use is actually quite simple. Someone, 
 > Of such a UFB can not configure, which must be synonymous to 
 > Install / configure a new tv (no preference whether now integrated with 
 > Satellite Reciver singly or both) get somebody who can. 
 Yes, under good conditions and with the right equipment choice - can only 
 you do not or only with much effort in advance to try before you 
 for a combination decides. 
 Gerald 
 Antwort von  Gerald Oppen:

 Nocon Heiko wrote: 
 > The old people should not be the thing up myself, but 
 > Only one from the OP to configure solution. So I have the 
 > Posting the OP in any case understood. 
 > 
 > In the rest of the old dominions should synonymous with buying a TV with 
 > Satellite Receiver with FB which clearly come. The complexity problem _dieses_ 
 > Remains the same ... 
 It is certainly much easier and more reliable device with a 
 This concerted remote control to operate (although there certainly synonymous 
 bad solutions) as two with a group of 
 Universal Remote Control Manufacturer of a third .. 
 >> It is sometimes nict ensure that both devices have the same synonymous 
 >> Signal packet is received. 
 > 
 > 
 > Nope, this is certainly not guaranteed, as neither useful nor 
 > Desirable. It is totally, if each of the devices for the 
 > Each specific device receives signal packets. And that is exactly 
 > Ensure safe than if you used two separate FB. 
 Under the circumstances, so that devices such as a chair back 
 the recipient of the satellite obscured - and switching volume 
 then, volume synonymous, but program can not switch -- 
 already have the old people have a problem and the universal remote control 
 "is broken" ... 
 Gerald 
 Antwort von  Heiko Nocon:

Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > that sounds great. just - what I now know a good UFB? 
 Well, in the learning and macro capability halt. The Aldi's part was 
 simply on the packaging that the two can. 
 Antwort von  1und1:

@ Luzia Dietsche 
 Hi, I'm new in usenet (first posting) 
 I hope times I do nothing wrong .... 
 Satellite TV incl runs with me at home a few years, although not yet 
 soo old, I had many of the FBs, the plug and the power supplies 
 its full power the nose. 
 Grundig and suppliers are lion, both companies offer integrated Sat-Receiver 
 füe its Television. I have a Grundig, my grandmother here in the house a 
 Lion. Grandma now makes the power switch on and with ARD and Picture 
 Sound ... I have not 2x a day down the stairs because the Television 
 allegedly does not work! For me, I can the potential of the TV's right 
 use for each channel as the volume and other individually 
 setting! 
 I hope to have helped a bit 
 Mike Ahrend 
 Antwort von  1und1:

1und1 wrote: 
 > @ Luzia Dietsche 
 > Hi, I'm new in usenet (first posting) 
 > I hope I mach mal nix wrong .... 
 > Satellite TV incl runs with me at home a few years, although not yet 
 > Soo old, I had many of the FBs, the plug and the power supplies 
 > Its full power the nose. 
 > Grundig and suppliers are lion, both companies offer integrated 
 > Satellite Television Receiver füe her. I have a Grundig, my grandmother here in the 
 > House with a lion. Grandma now makes the power switch on and ARD with Picture 
 > And sound ... I have not 2x a day down the stairs because the Television 
 > Supposedly does not work! For me, I can the potential of the TV's right 
 > And use for each channel as the volume and other individually 
 > Setting! 
 > I hope to have helped a bit 
 > 
 > Mike Ahrend 
 Oops, there was the error 1und1 hot ... I do not ..:-) 
 Antwort von  1und1:

Luzia Dietsche wrote: 
 > 
 > Hello! 
 > 
 > I am in search of a device (or a 
 > Geraete combination), which as simple as possible to use. it 
 > Is for two old people, so that the greatest difficulty 
 >, Two remote control to have, but at a 
 > Sat receiver-dependent, because no cable is located. the existing 
 > Solution with TV, satellite receiver and two remotes 
 > Always works well. someone knows something? 
 > 
 > Gruesse - Luzia 
 @ Luzia Dietsche 
 Hi, I'm new in usenet (first posting) 
 I hope times I do nothing wrong .... 
 Satellite TV incl runs with me at home a few years, although not yet 
 soo old, I had many of the FBs, the plug and the power supplies 
 its full power the nose. 
 Grundig and suppliers are lion, both companies offer integrated Sat-Receiver 
 füe its Television. I have a Grundig, my grandmother here in the house a 
 Lion. Grandma now makes the power switch on and with ARD and Picture 
 Sound ... I have not 2x a day down the stairs because the Television 
 allegedly does not work! For me, I can the potential of the TV's right 
 use for each channel as the volume and other individually 
 setting! 
 I hope to have helped a bit 
 Mike Ahrend 
 Antwort von  Lutz Bojasch:

1und1 wrote: 
 > Oops, there was the error 1und1 hot ... I do not ..:-) 
 Hee, 
 do not panic. Newbies have a grace period, sharp shot, only 
 to deliberate mischief and lernresistente "old hands";) 
 Body just as soon as possible correctly. By the Articles of 
 previous postings click on the Functional zusammenkürzen. 
 Have fun in the NGS and from time to "preserve nerves":) 
 Gruß Lutz