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Recording in a sound recording

Frage von Blackeagle123:
April 2007

Hey you all,

I will be a wedding in the Czech Republic to film, with two cameras, one Steadi. Kamerakran front of the church will probably be too much effort.
I am planning several microphones in the church, which hides are placed. In the next room there is a mixer.

The sound from the stereo output, I would like to tap and record, this is a short s.Anfang sync sound to the cameras and recorders be.

The question is how profitable it is there, recorded. What do you think of the idea of a CD recorder adapter? (How many minutes to fit on a CD?)
Another idea would be the MD recorder, but we still need to borrow. Although we, as a recording medium with 60 minutes miniDV use is for emergencies around the recording 90Minuten support. (A tape in the camera can still wächseln, hauptsache the sound is there.)

Many dear greetings

Antwort von hansreinhard:

DVD recorders is in principle possible, but please believe that you forward this time according to / need to run after, because the blank has to be receptive and presumably formatted according to the recording to be completed - in the hectic everyday receptive rather cumbersome!
My suggestion: solid-state recorders (look at Marantz or EDIROL), for example, take the CF card to either spend hours in MP-3 or, depending on the map in 1-4 hours WAV. synonymous for further s.rechner the better / faster variant.
one more thing: if you use radio microphones, route them to an extra soundtrack, because then you will have at least the wired microphones clean, if a radio link or even crack rauscht / suspension has.
question is, however, whether the house has more than one plant output channel has ...

Antwort von Urs:

as is always with a notebook recording device? Or s.besten, notebook and a different backup (solid state, cd). The most elegant solution ware with notebook and FireWire mixer, all channels can be output separately, then mixing errors or aussertzer / disturbance of a channel is no longer a problem (in the sense of a störauswirkung on the gesammtbild).

Make sure that camera and recording device, the same sampling rate of 48kHz is used, otherwise it may be problems with the synchronization type !!!!!!

Antwort von Blackeagle123:


what exactly says because the sampling rate?
When Notebokk I somehow fear that so ne Windows message, like: "Attention, hard drive full" (* g *) or "PC is not protected from viruses", etc. or something crashes in Audition. How did your experience there?

Many greetings and many thanks!

Antwort von Markus:

"Blackeagle123" wrote:
... what exactly says because the sampling rate?

The sampling rate is the resolution of a tone in the time. A sampling rate of 48 kHz says that 48,000 readings per second digital data to be translated. But have no fear, so a current hard drive to fill, one has to take several days. ;-)

Antwort von Blackeagle123:


So now I draw in to 96KHz. If necessary you can change but still synonymous with Audition, or settings in Adobe Premiere to change, right?
Or do I need to première with 48KHz for record and 96 is not at all?

Many greetings,

Antwort von eitlefilme:

the notebook: if you do not vetraust windows so you can not use the linux wailed (but there are enough threads about this) --

in any case, you can indeed windows to disable the system sounds - and if you start using the thing, so nothing should be there-stay-resident (not synonymous virus protection) and thus should nix biepsen ...


Antwort von Blackeagle123:


Thank you, then I will just "dry" test. Until the wedding, I still have enough time!

What is it with the sampling rate? Fixed 48KHz or synonymous go 96?
Premiere urges the setting?

Many greetings,

Antwort von Anderl:

When video is for 48kHz sound standard. 96kHz increases the amount of data to be saved and will (under the described circumstances) nothing for the quality.
If the hidden microphones very far apart, the way, you get problems with different maturities. This can be compensated while afterwards, you should see about the various routes but measured (distance from the bride and groom to the Micro), if they are very far away.
A notebook for recording is normally no problem when you get the usual pitfalls remove: Virus scanner and firewall off, saving settings COMPLETELY off, network services, disable, disable screen savers, utilities for printer off, etc. ..

Good luck!


Antwort von thos-berlin:


I'm doing at a "TV Show" in the open channel with Berlin. Here I take a few broadcasts the sound of all 16 channels on a separate PC (abgegrifen on the insert of the channels, since the subject before the fader. It would be synonymous to the direct-out possible, but at my desk behind the faders and so I take nothing, when the slider is down ...). I'm using mitgeschnitteten only sound when the live mix grundleggend something goes wrong.

To use a PC with Windows, two Marian / Siena Marc8 Midi "cards (ie 2x8 analog audio in and out) and as a software Reaper. Abgestürztz the calculator is not yet. But I have synonymous except those matters not on the calculator 'on it!


Antwort von Blackeagle123:


Anderl, you've written, I get problems with the different periods? Why?

I suppose it all microphones with either 96 or with 48khz on. (I have now decided to 48KHz!)
If a microphone is far away, it takes only the reverb / echo on, or nothing at all, because the sound is too quiet.
Or what exactly do you with my "Außeinanderlaufen"?

Thank you love and greetings,

Antwort von Schleichmichel:

He says the time difference to the sound to one and the other Microphone needs. At different distances varying length, which is ultimately a large part of the stereo effect mind, but often at Language stört. The sampling rate has nothing to do with what he said.

During the sampling frequency results in only synchronization error if it is lacking s.Medienkompetenz and you are not with formats and applications knowledge.

(small supplement) For compression formats (MP3, AAC, ATRAC) can however result in minimal differences in the time. Better WAV, AIFF or SDII.

Antwort von Blackeagle123:

Achso, achso ...

So that I do differently, because I've made out directional microphones so that the bride and groom will receive a separate, pastor of its own, the two own organ. With lavalier and wireless to work is too costly, so I hide the microphones a little bit ...
The microphones are directed too much, as that they are 10 meters distant voice still could absorb, the echo may be quite low.

Atmo, I have the camera microphones have enough. So I do not synonymous the problem that a Hall of voice recording. I would not synonymous stereo effect, all those who speak are mono on both channels (synonymous if the bride and groom left is right and the priest)!
Would I have two microphones ball in the church for Atmo hang, I would have exactly this problem!

Many greetings,

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