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Frage von Mori:
Februar 2007

Good day,

currently I am playing with the idea in the HDV - Class enter.
From handling her I like the XL H1 is very good.
Unfortunately, I still lack experience with the image quality make this camera. Previously I had only the possibility of recordings Andreas Kieling of the SonyFX7 to see.
Are there any TV shows, partly with the XL H1 will be that I could look at?
Would you be very grateful!
Many greetings

Mori



Antwort von Andreas_Kiel:

Hi,
I think with TV programs do you not go far because this is already expected to PAL down and possibly even synonymous color undwerweißwassonstnoch post. You have to s.besten "real" and unprocessed material HDV camera view of your dreams.
On http://www.fxsupport.de/01.html there is something for example. On request you can certainly synonymous someone a few seconds zumailen. Side effect: when you realize Anschauen whether your calculator is so clear ...
BG
Andreas



Antwort von Axel:

"Andreas_Kiel" wrote:
Side effect: when you realize Anschauen whether your calculator is so clear ...


Note: The reverse conclusion that your calculator / HDV system is not capable of, if you have the films shown here are not immediately import it, is not true. If you can import it, then it will probably fit.
An important feature of the H1, the 25F mode on this Page will not display properly. To correctly handle it, you must add the software HDV 1080 25p support.
For example, Premiere will make this







Antwort von Mori:

Good day,

@ Andreas_Kiel / Axel:

Thanks for the links.

Since I do mostly animal movies, I always with the shortcomings of the XL-H1 confronted.
rp television said that even small pans strongly affect the image quality.
Currently I have movies with the XM2. Since I am often identified situations in which I like long lenses available had (wildcats Mäusefang or when the black woodpecker feeding young), I would like to try with interchangeable lenses to film. Now I ask, should I receives the XL2 used to buy and wait for HDV is developed directly or start with HDV?

Perhaps television can rp about this subject here, since it is already familiar with HDV seems.
Otherwise, I thank you once again for the answers.

Mori



Antwort von Kaine:

I believe this for you synonymous the FX7 would be interesting!
first by the large zoom,
secondly, by the low weight
enough here for easier stativ on stalking
than 3.5 kilograms of h1 on the shoulder or s.arm
to have and then in restless animals abzufilmen make me
difficult before ....
and thirdly, a good automatic in the event of rapid
operational synonymous not bad.
gruß cj



Antwort von Kaine:

"Anonymous" wrote:
I believe this for you synonymous the FX7 would be interesting!


The FX7 has ever been synonymous I beliebäugelt.
I had the Comparison with the XH-A1 in the active video read.
What irritates me is the possibility of EF Lenses s.den body of the XL-series to use.
Greetings and thank you again

Mori



Antwort von usul:

"Anonymous" wrote:
What irritates me is the possibility of EF Lenses s.den body of the XL-series to use.

Whether the optics are so good but that good yet so synonymous HD Resolutions-how, since I have my doubts. However, only a fraction of the image circle of the optics used in still relatively high resolution.



Antwort von Bernd E.:

"usul" wrote:
Whether the optics are so good but ... I have my doubts.

Because I would have no concerns, at least not at the professional EF lenses, the synonymous in the photo area very good results (and the s.weit higher-resolution cameras). From 100-euro pieces in the kit with the 300D were delivered, we are talking in this case will not go away.

Gruß Bernd E.



Antwort von Mori:

It would be once the Schiebezoom 100 - 400mm/5.6 and the 100/2.8 macro act. The 24 - 70/2.8 would be already in the field of standard focal length lens covers.

There are also moments when all I had time in the world, only the focal missing. On



Antwort von usul:

"Bernd E." wrote:
Because I would have no concerns, at least not at the professional EF lenses, the synonymous in the photo area very good results (and the s.weit higher-resolution cameras).

Sure solve cameras later on - however, synonymous to MUCH larger area. But even top-optics come in at 8-10 MPixel APS-large chips s.Ihre borders.

We optimistic times with 150 liner pairs per mm. The EF-create the top-optics precisely so.
Let then 1 / 3 "chip of the video camera is only about 5mm wide (if I had not charged). Since then still remain 750 line pairs left. Because you are creating the 720 line pairs possible.

It must, however, say that the 150lp/mm a MTF50 measurement, ie there are only 50% of the "optimal" contrast left.

So therefore I would certainly not buy Canon (which does not mean that there are other reasons for this camera type mag).

For a resolution like the XL2 yet loose enough for HDV, I believe that EF-optics for sub-optimal at best. And yes no one buys HDV Camera to Resolutionzu have that SOMETHING is better than IR.



Antwort von Kaine:

"usul" wrote:
"Bernd E." wrote:
Because I would have no concerns, at least not at the professional EF lenses, the synonymous in the photo area very good results (and the s.weit higher-resolution cameras).

Sure solve cameras later on - however, synonymous to MUCH larger area. But even top-optics come in at 8-10 MPixel APS-large chips s.Ihre borders.

The XL-H1 is required but only the middle part of the Optics.
This is the part that when playing, for example, photos on the fewest distortions aufweist. If one assumes that L-optics up to 16MP with the 1Ds MarkII not yet s.ihre limitations should s.der XL-H1 but not overly strong in the field of quality problems occur, right? How it ultimately is, unfortunately, I know not exactly synonymous. Villeicht can someone for this reason that with the above combination is filming his experience.

Otherwise, I thank you for your effort that you have it rough trying to reach!



Antwort von Jan:

Yes good tip guest, it is quite possible that the crop factor telemarketing synonymous with the XL H 1 positive effect. The focus now ranges often times not up to the outside edge, disturbing vignetting synonymous s.den edges.

The part of the Canon Optics must be seen in the small-XL H 1 sensor really quite small in the middle there.

VG
Jan








Antwort von Mori:

Good day,

as it seems at the moment, I probably can use interchangeable lenses to exclude.

I would like to record HDV and the cost of an XL-H1 but probably would be too high. HDV panning would be more difficult than with a huge focal s.beispielsweise to handle XL2. Stable Tripods, good lighting conditions, monitor, all the things you will probably need, but I would be too expensive and difficult.

Now I am in the XH-A1 arrived. Could help me with my Saturn a more accurate picture of her making. The handling was just great.
As long focal length but I do not want to miss umbedingt, I consider myself to buy a tele converter with a 72mm thread.
Can you recommend me a certain, and there are 2.0x converter?

Many greetings

Moritz



Antwort von kasi:

Hi Moritz,
I am now exactly the same problem: I need an HD s.May Camera suitable for animal pictures for television. So far I've worked with the XL1 and the synonymous, I have the tele and Macro Lenses.
The XL H1 would fulfill all my Anfordrungen, if not in all the forums on the motion blur would be written. Is this really so noticeable if you almost only by Tripod filming? The animals are obviously synonymous and sometimes very quickly. How does this affect the picture from?
How is the little brother Vergeich XH A1? What Telekonvertrer could work as a maximum and then how is the quality?
For suggestions, I would be very grateful.
Kasi



Antwort von mori:

@ Kasi: If you have money for XL H1 and the necessary accessories you, I would at your Einsatzgebeet recommend the H1.
I have now purchased the XH A1. Pans can be made, but these should calmly and carefully executed.
The image quality is greatly detailed Empire. To manually set comes you do not drumrum, this is the camera was not designed. I have a Tele Converter bought the Raynox 2020. You do, because it has no 72mm thread, full of the focal lens to use, so that no edge blurring etc. occur. Alternatively, there is the 9000th Raynox By 2020, I have a magnification up to about 1400mm of focal, ie 28-fold magnification!
Please consider purchasing again good!
Many greetings

Moritz



Antwort von Valentino:

Hi,

So at the moment I have a small project with documentation of the XL-H1 and of the Camera'm actually very confident.
The major problems of the Camera in Drehaltag are:

1. The LCD Viewfinder is only for a Auschnittskontrolle really good, but as the autofocus is a force you can almost always leave it on. By setting the camera presets (CineGamm etc.) can happen easily, the LCD a lot of details "verschlukt" and the picture is mostly dark. In the standard setting something happens rarely (no presets).
2. When Wießabgleich you have to leave the Canon blind because synonymous here Viewfinder always tends a Rotsticht vorzuteuschen, but later s.einem preview monitor no longer exists.
3. When filming in the wide area, there are achromatic discoloration, which is synonymous with the XH-A1 are known. And I have such discoloration synonymous with high-end HDCAM or DigiBeta recordings have seen. Even at my slides, I have a Coolscan digitaliert did fall slightly this discoloration in the eye, but only with zoom lenses, the good feast of Canon lenses have not.
4. The Camera is very top-heavy, but as I had found a large IDX Battery something is brought into balance. I run the camera itself always with the Standard Battery and Battery IDX Close s.den light on the head, with the ulterior motive that is when the IDX Batteries empty, not equal with the camera goes out.
5. The micro camera is one of the best in this price class, only it happens quickly, the man with a camera or unpack the micro accidentally of stereo to mono schlaltet. Even the cable s.Micro top goes away, I am a little mystery.
6. The statement that the camera only s.Aperture 2.8 provides a clear picture, I could not confirm only that Blend 2.8 is no longer so good on the Autofucus can leave, but the picture is not muddy or anything. Also, the typical, often with the FX1 or Z1 observed blur when panning, I could in the XL-H1 is not confirmed.

I had briefly synonymous times the Happiness, the new Canon Wide Anglevon test and was very pleasantly surprised by the discoloration as the standard lens will almost no longer occurs.
Interesante is synonymous, in the Wide Angleein around 7MB big firmware update was what probably nichtnur for the new optics is intended. I'm s.das update my dealer had the new firmware but can not publish.

Greeting Valentino

If you have a little test material of the XL-H1 want please mail to

el_valentino s.web de



Antwort von kasi:

Thank you for the quick reply. 1400 mm photo focal length are synonymous something, but I think for my needs but I have to purchase the XL H1.
Hab incidentally in an American forum found the note that you are in updates for the Canon Camera procure and install, thus some settings such as: the zoom speed can be optimized. I do not know how this works in Germany, but I came to listen.
Best Regards
Kasi]




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