Frage von Corlath:
Hello,
I would like to leave for smaller children and movies (up to) buy a digital camcorder, preferably with hard drive (which is good for something?), because I certainly quickly than process.
Now I look entsprfechend in the beginner class, where probably only Sonyand JVC offer something.
When SonyDCR-SR30 is now something of a Resolutionvon 800,000 pixels?
http://www.amazon.de/Sony-Handycam-DCR-SR30-HDD-Camcorders-hard drive/dp/B000HPLNPO /
Can anyone explain briefly times what this means, because the Resolutionvon with a digital camera but is certainly not comparable (because the phone has already 2 million?)?
800.000 - this is a good picture on a large television and the computer or modest it is generally very small or small and modest?
Somehow I can not really imagine.
Alternatively fall to me then the JVC GZ-MG57 with 1.3 million pixels
http://www.amazon.de/JVC-GZMG57-GZ-MG-57/dp/B000IGW2WU/
(500 at discount)
or the JVC GZ-MG77 with 2.2 million Pxeln on.
http://www.amazon.de/JVC-GZ-MG77US-GZ-MG-77-Camcorders/dp/B000E1332W/
Had almost or more than twice as much - you need this?
A small tip would be great.
Greeting
Frank
Antwort von beiti:
Camcorder, whose pictures for PAL TVs are made, draw only a Resolutionvon 720 x 576 pixels on (no preference whether 4:3 or 16:9). The same is true for PAL TV. This "0.4 megapixels" are in comparison to digital cameras very little, but the picture moves in favor. If you are with the (technical) quality of normal television're happy, you meet this 0,4 MP. If you want more quality (eg for your HD-Ready Flat Panel), you need an HD device (such as HDV or AVCHD), which are currently at about 1.3 MP.
If your camcorder with higher resolutions will be advertised, this refers only to their photo function, not on the moving film. If you primarily want to film and does not wish to put the photo features, you can safely ignore these numbers.
The pros and cons of Festplattencamcordern, DVD camcorders and tape camcorders, you can here in the forum already extensively read, because it has been often discussed. Summary: If you put your videos want to edit properly, the tape (MiniDV or HDV) is still the best choice.
Antwort von Corlath:
Hello,
Thank you for the quick reply!
That means in plain purely on the quality on the screen, the camcorder Auflösuung indicated no preference and there is therefore no justification for a "bigger" model to take?
Hm, would it be from your perspective nonetheless worthwhile to wait for Panasonic cameras, which are so hard to be mentioned?
Greeting
Frank
Antwort von beiti:
purely on the quality on the screen, the camcorder Auflösuung indicated no preference and there is therefore no justification for a "bigger" model to take? Yes, so roughly. Shooting can be either in conventional PAL resolution (720 x 576) or in an HD format (usually 1280 x 768 or 1440 x 1080).
The Still Image Resolutions some camcorders are a nice addition for people who are between the shooting synonymous quick to shoot a few photos and there is no extra device to carry.
Hm, would it be from your perspective nonetheless worthwhile to wait for Panasonic cameras, which are so hard to be mentioned? What?
Antwort von Corlath:
Ok, then it would be from today's perspective, the SonyDCR SR-30, which for nearly 520 at Pixmania there, but yes, a bag to be synonymous uch I've already read that you are one of the display and protection of a "filter" to provide protection should be.
Panasonic would be the end here, in the same price range is to be: Panasonic SDR-H 20 EG-S
Greeting
Frank
Antwort von beiti:
Why are you just so hard camcorder fixed? Those things are very ambiguous: If you like his videos s.PC post, hoping that the hard drive through a time-saving, because the films do not need to restore in real time. But they draw heavily compressed in MPEG2, which restricts the quality of finishing. If you do not edit the MPEG2 compression synonymous not a big drawback - but why should you have any device with hard drive, whose contents must always copy?
Antwort von Corlath:
Hello,
hm, I mean me and judged that it is the only MiniDVs with reduced length there, I would say more and more in the house, if I do not play immediately.
Dubbing is in real time?
Postprocessing I imagine similarly complicated before?
In the hard drive, I hope "gedanken-free" images, because I simply synonymous mal 'ne hours can start, easy to play and easy on-line?
Moreover, the parts I think a bit smaller and lighter?
And finally, there is weniegr Choice and that I must seek less (-:
Jump back I went back to MiniDV (which do you think, huh?), I probably back to 1000 units, at least sometimes not cheaper.
All in all - no idea, I thought this would be the future and as I said, I have always (yet?) Is not HDTV, but just an old 102 s.der wall - that I would like the movies in a decent quality and see excerpts fx online manner.
I imagine with the simple front panel?
Greeting
Frank
Antwort von beiti:
Advantage of the MiniDV tapes is their high storage capacity; DV works with relatively low compression, might be easily cut and precise image synonymous still offers some quality reserves for color, etc. The camcorder is not more expensive than DVD or HDD camcorders. The cartridges cost almost nothing (around ¬ 2.50 for a 60's tape), ie in practice it deletes almost never, but the tape recorded only once and then archived.
Play DV movies in their original quality in the PC, they need approximately 3.6 MB / sec (compared with 0.2 to 0.9 MB / sec in MPEG-2 format). Archiving on a hard drive because you need not think, but that is synonymous not necessary because there has the originals. You play only the material in the PC that you wish to edit. If the average project is completed, you can cut the hard drive to delete it. Finished movies can be returned to lossless DV tape off (if the DV camcorder synonymous - in them).
If you watch movies and original only in an online format will want to last a hard-disk camcorder for you probably. Basically it is the MPEG2 format the hard drive camcorders are less well edit (just because it is more compressed MPEG and you do not respond directly to each individual can access), but need the movies synonymous less space.
Antwort von Markus:
Postprocessing I imagine similarly complicated before? If you already handling with MiniDV cassettes will find difficult, then wait times from the (negative) surprise an HDD camcorder hides! ;-)
Antwort von tixo:
... Then wait times from the (negative) surprise an HDD camcorder hides! ;-) Hi Mark, could you briefly about long synonymous or omit? In order to eliminate my Kippstellung fact. I myself would have almost for a JVC GZ-MG57E decided, and then I read THE ...
lg Tixo
Antwort von Daigoro:
In the hard drive, I hope "gedanken-free" images, because I simply synonymous mal 'ne hours can start, easy to play and easy on-line?
Why do you want to actually spend the whole money and you do all the work for making recordings that you no one will see otherwise and the synonymous-with-no-one may say are interested in?
That should actually be the principal issue before it's camera to buy it. Why do I want to sowas überhaupt? Simple and good film is not.
Boring and no 'script' in your head things come synonymous filmed on the screen as being mostly (well, maybe there's Naturtalentierte film simply for the eye's shooting and have by simply filming drauflos Great stories to tell - we ordinary bored ourselves to death).
If you just up your children want to document (I did not synonymous daughter: D), just analog Snapshots of paper and then photos of it.
The you can in 20 years as well as watch today (the biggest risk factor in all the digital stuff - 3000 year old Sumerian clay tablets, you can still read, but try to obtain NEN Beta VCR) and which are "fun" as a point & shoot gefilme.
Antwort von Platinum:
Incidentally, most digital knipsen
synonymous a video feature!
gruß cj
Antwort von Platinum:
ps.
7 My camcorder has a well-known
and only 2 use it regularly,
the rest probably rarely or never!
gruß cj
Antwort von Daigoro:
Incidentally, most digital knipsen
synonymous a video feature!
gruß cj Mobiles synonymous. :)
The way, if something gets out Vertragsverlaengerung its not the worst choice is with the moving image recording, either (of course s.besten before there are children - the rarest material is satisfactory).
If you someday realize that the 2-10 minutes the solution to so ne thing fit not enough, you know that it was' real 'needs. : D
7 My camcorder has a well-known
and only 2 use it regularly,
the rest probably rarely or never! Since we do not sell your camcorder and have us a little bit maximum drüber forward to that a larger market synonymous cheaper devices (at least in the consumer area) brings, one can synonymous' poor 'to say.
Those things you can finally lend synonymous - if necessary, of the friends who have one, but never used - and with equal s.besten cameraman (then have the professionals here, we always so willingly with the Council to Page is more to be done and looking forward synonymous:) for really important stuff (weddings, Schulauffuehrungen and sowas). : D
Antwort von topgun:
In the hard drive, I hope "gedanken-free" images, because I simply synonymous mal 'ne hours can start, easy to play and easy on-line?
Why do you want to actually spend the whole money and you do all the work for making recordings that you no one will see otherwise and the synonymous-with-no-one may say are interested in?
That should actually be the principal issue before it's camera to buy it. Why do I want to sowas überhaupt? Simple and good film is not.
Boring and no 'script' in your head things come synonymous filmed on the screen as being mostly (well, maybe there's Naturtalentierte film simply for the eye's shooting and have by simply filming drauflos Great stories to tell - we ordinary bored ourselves to death).
If you just up your children want to document (I did not synonymous daughter: D), just analog Snapshots of paper and then photos of it.
The you can in 20 years as well as watch today (the biggest risk factor in all the digital stuff - 3000 year old Sumerian clay tablets, you can still read, but try to obtain NEN Beta VCR) and which are "fun" as a point & shoot gefilme. Hello,
You forgot only one thing: the sound!
I've synonymous over 30 years and photographed the growth of my children documented. Only when they were 10 years old, I bought my first camera. I'm sorry now that I rather not have done, because what was so into the camera was spoken, the best photo may not play.
Topgun
Antwort von Daigoro:
My Mom has had music cassettes. : D
The first words (actually just chatter has), poems, songs .. everything of me and my sister - so postnatally to 3 Class all there.
Of course it's wonderful to have and s.besten in combination, but I've become synonymous enough 'Super Vacation Videos' suffered (hand-synonymous: D) to show them I buy me ne Cam and the life is colorful and interesting' Think no more quite able to support.
ps If you have so long searched Photos, hast thou synonymous to most people that purchase a video camera to put on some s.Erfahrung vorraus and probably already auto select interesting motifs.
I like film are only 2 years and everything around it in the direction of 'easy run Camera', has NEN gaehnerregenden Ueberwachungskamera certain charm. : (
pps finally struck again: the difference between shooting and 'Camera can run'.
We have a seminar at 2 cameras to tripod 'to run', because None active shooting took place. Overall, about 14-15 hours so material. Although the event was super s.sich is to consider a matter so Droege, which is believed not.
When would you Ueberwachungskamera an empty parking lot view.
With much rumgeschnibbel (we are talking here of s.Computer weekends) to get maybe one hour 'Featured Highlights' cut together that you can really do to someone.
Even inexperienced people ne Camera in hand to press usually produces' landmark 'results (as if synonymous blurred sau:).
That is just stupid when filming does not usually take part s.geschehen.
Antwort von MadEyedMoose:
which agrees with the ton of digital shoot is really bad.
Many families still have their cameras (super8/Hi8/miniDV)
because of the picturesque little kids bought filmed and much less frequently viewed.
gruß cj
Antwort von Markus (unangemeldet):
Hi Mark, could you briefly about long synonymous or omit? I just discover this discussion again ... is probably too late for an explanation. Or you've been following similar questions / answers sought, of which there now are numerous.
How did you decide and because what happens with the new device ahead?
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Sincerely,
Markus
Antwort von tixo:
How did you decide and because what happens with the new device ahead? Hi Mark, for a hint, it's never too late ... Thanks for the answers! But I have my true needs of a new test and my stomach can decide - because the brain is already permanently cheated. Result was that I am, what I would have it, I simply do not want and can afford. And lo and behold: the Everio was synonymous suddenly too small in the hand, the technology trust through your blanket warning that.
An older Canon MVX450 helps me now synonymous still save money ... What the heck, at the time I need one, recording two hours to cut, it comes to the transfer time to the PC really not.
In this respect: thank you for your "brake", it came at the right time.
Liebe Grüße, Tixo
Antwort von Markus:
... at the time I need one, recording two hours to cut, it comes to the transfer time to the PC really not. The Transfer of MiniDV goes to the computer and car you need, if necessary just to change the tape.
The images of a DVD or HDD device are transferred more quickly, but then sometimes the Gefrickel go, what software hochkomprimierten with the data for them and how this possibly could be converted into a format that of a certain video editing software support. And then you may need much more time to decompress than MiniDV would have needed to capture.
What are the problems with DVD and HDD camcorders when attempting video editing may occur, shows the number of questions around this topic. Not always, there is a workable solution and not infrequently the users exchange their newly acquired equipment finally against MiniDV models.
